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Profile: nimble knuckle
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Okay, so I am having trouble deciding on which PSU to get. I had originally had my eye on the 700 Watt OCZ GameXtream for $125 (After MIR), but then I came across the the OCZ StealthXtream 600 watt for $99.

I couldn't find any reviews on the stealth, but it appears to be identical to the 600 Watt GameXtream, just without the LEDs.

At this point, I don't see myself investing in SLI or Crossfire anytime soon, but most definitely a single 8800GTX or R600 and I want to make sure my PSU is up to snuff. I want this PSU to be something that stays in my systems throughout upgrades for years to come. Whether I decide to go QuadCore and an 8900GTX or whatever.

Let me know what you think. I am still leaning towards the 700 Watt OCZ because I know its reputation and it is very powerful.

Thanks for any advice.

I want to keep it under $150, no exceptions. Modular would be nice, but isn't really needed.

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The Antec TruPower 650 is on sale for $99 after MIR now too. Free shipping as well. Supposedly not the same quality as the GameXtreme though.

Profile: nimble knuckle
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The OCZ, not sure I would shell out that much cash and have to wait for the rebate...

I would consider the Corsair HX620 as well:

- can be had for a mere $128/$136 shipped from securemart
- modular
- rated for +12v@50A (well s/b around 40A under realistic loads)
- single +12v rail design, the label's three rails are just marketing bunk.

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HX620 review, jonnyguru[/url]"]Looking at the Seasonic main PCB inside the Corsair PSU reveals only two rails, labeled 12V1 and 12V2. There is no third rail. This is illustrated well at Hardware Secrets. Although I can not say that these rails are or are not somehow electronically separated in the PSU's circuitry somewhere, I did find that there was no OCP (over current protection or "limiter" ) on either of these rails as I was able to load any given connector up 30 to 40A with no drop in voltage, system shut down, etc.

So it is my opinion that we essentially have a single 12V rail PSU here.


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HX620 review, hardwaresecrets[/url]"]Figure 18: +12 V wires are separated into two groups (there is no 12V3 virtual rail inside the PSU).
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Figure 19: But they are connected to the same +12 V line on the PCB.


I noticed other models based on the Seasonic S12 OEM/design have similiar traits...

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NeoHE 550w review, hardwaresecrets.com[/url]"]As we showed on the previous page, even though this power supply has two +12 V rectifiers, they are connected in parallel, so there is only one +12 V output inside the power supply. Antec separated the +12 V wires into six wire groups and grouped them two by two into three groups called +12V1, +12V2 and +12V3. All these wires are connected together on the printed circuit board.

You can see this on Figures 17 and 18. On Figure 17 you can see the six separated wire groups, but they are connected together by the six jumpers (wires). On Figure 19 you can see how these groups are simply connected together to the same single +12 V rail.


I think we can pretty much disregard the per-rail max listed on the label on units based on the Seasonic S12 at this point :wink: I've got my $ bet on the fact the Antec Trio is exactly the same, so if you want to save a few bux on it you can't go wrong.

Profile: Forum Gigolo
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That's a good price on that HX620. That's about what my net price will be when (and if) I get the $20 rebate from Corsair. It's a solid, quality unit. I haven't fired it up yet (just got it from ZZF), but it "smells" of quality.

Profile: nimble knuckle
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I found the FSP FX700 GLN on the egg for right at $134. It is the same as the GameXtreme, just no MIR (which I hate anyway)

I have always considered the Corsair Unit, but I am trying to order everything from the Egg for ease and shipping discounts. The 620 is $170 at the egg. Of course, the HX620 is modular, right? I've never heard of that site before, how is it?

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The Cosair HX620 is a high qualty PSU
Have had this for 5 months and it runs my system great.
just love the modular cables!

This psu was reviewed this month in CPU magazine and is a 'top rated mid price PSU". Ran at 800 watts for over 2 hours with no problems on a 8800 GTX SLI system

Buy IT!

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The Neo 550 doesn't look bad for $109, how do you think it compares to the OCZ StealthXtreme 600?

Other then JonnyGuru (what I normally use) is there any other sites that do PSU reviews like his?

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I found the FSP FX700 GLN on the egg for right at $134. It is the same as the GameXtreme, just no MIR (which I hate anyway)

I have always considered the Corsair Unit, but I am trying to order everything from the Egg for ease and shipping discounts. The 620 is $170 at the egg. Of course, the HX620 is modular, right? I've never heard of that site before, how is it?



The HX620 is $146.90 plus this $20 Rebate at ZipZoomFly with free shipping. Would make your cost $127 after rebate. Not bad, and ZZF is a good etailer.

Profile: nimble knuckle
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Okay, between the Corsair 520($105), the OCZ GameXtream 600 ($99), and the NeoHE 550 ($109), which is the best?

I always forget to check ZZF. Those are awesome prices for each of those PSUs, plus, free shipping!

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I'd go with the Corsair between those two.

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Okay, between the Corsair 520($105) and the NeoHE 550 ($109), which is the best?



Ok ... how about trying this: Corsair HX 520W Power Supply - $105 w/ free shipping -and- $20 MIR ... $85 net w/free shipping.

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What, do you work for ZZF now or what? You are supposed to keep the advertising out of the forums! :wink:

OP: Go with the Corsair, excellent quality PSU and for $85 after rebate? Good deal 8)

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I've ordered the last couple of purchases from ZZF - both arrived just fine and were cheaper than the egg ... I wish they'd give me some commissions :wink:

Profile: nimble knuckle
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MIRs aside (I hate MIRs) your would still recommend the 520 Corsair over the GameXtream 600?

$105 Shipped for the Corsair and $99 for the GameXtream. Let me know why you would pick which...

man, deciding on a PSU is hard work... lol!

Would either handle 2 8800GTXs if I really wanted them too?

Profile: nimble knuckle
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I agree, ZZF is just as good as newegg, and their deal on the HX520 w/ MIR is the best current offering - but you have to admit, newegg's on-line invoices are very cool to refer back to - beats going to the old file cabinet any day.

Securemart is not a bad vendor, check out their resellerratings.com marks they are few, but rate highly. I have used them about 5 times so far and no issues.

Between the HX520 and the OCZ600, I would probably go w/ the HX520. Not sure either of those would handle 8800gtx/sli but the HX620 probably could. From what I recall, jonnyguru reviewed the OCZ 700w and it had a problem with the +12v ripple...

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OCZ GameXstream 700W, jonnyguru[/url]"]Things were satisfactory until test 3. During test 3, I started to see ripple on 12V1 and 12V2 that was nearly 100mV. By test 5, the ripple was 100mV on 12V3 and 12V4 and had exceeded 100mV on 12V1 and 12V2. By test 6, the ripple on 12V1 and 12V2 had exceeded 150mV.

ATX specification has an "allowance" for 120mV. Mind you, test 6 was very stressful, pushing the power supply to it's limits, but it doesn't change the fact that the ripple exceeded spec and this is the first power supply to date I have had do this.

What's wrong with too much ripple? Well, if the voltage fluctuates too erratically, it can over work other regulators used to provide Vcore to the CPU, GPU, etc.

A representative of OCZ did find my findings concerning and asked that I return the unit for an exchange. I did so, and in the interim I obtained an FSP Epsilon 600W. The 600W version of the power supply the OCZ GameXstream is based on. In testing that unit, I found a good deal of ripple as well. When a brand new GameXstream was finally returned to me, I immediately plugged it in and found the same results as the first sample.

Fortunately, it is very unlikely any of us will have one of these power supplies at or above 400W, at least for any considerable period of time, but this high ripple measurement will be taken into consideration when calculating the performance score.



So the OCZ 700w, rated for +12v@~47A (under typical loading) started to show serious ripple @ 38A and higher, and that is quite a restriction for such a high power unit.

With this in mind, the corsair is probably the better choice since it has no limitations of this nature - just solid, clean power and no per-rail limitations (if you can look past the label :wink: )

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