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gts 640 dropped 100 dollars to 350... G_G XT.
Now if you complain about that your just wierd... 330$$$ for the 640MB! version is crazy.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814133194
8800GTX is still 500ish though.
thats because there is nothing to compete with it.
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Ummm... The EVGA 8800GTS-640 has been $389 (with a $30 MIR) for a couple weeks at Newegg. Not sure where you got $100 from, but nice to see the $30 drop. (Still not ordering it... yet).
-Wolf sends
thats gay
, i bought a 320mb version liek 1 week ago
coulda sworn it had an msrp of 450 but w/e
What I find funny is that newegg has the 640mb superclocked evga card cheaper than the stock evga card
lol aLdaRiS, that really sucks.
$350 for a 640MB GTS sounds very tempting but I also have a 320MB.
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Still $100 (well $80) more than the 320, that's still a chunk of change that may or may not be worth it depending on settings.
If the 640 is worth that much more than the 320, then definitely the GTX is worth the $100 more than the GTS.
Well, I'd have to say the value of the 640 vs 320 only will come in with resolution, around 1680*1050 is where I'd put the limit on the 320's capabilities, while anything under that the 320 should be fine
But the gtx is on a totally different level imo
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Yeah the only thing is the while the jump from ~$360+ to ~$470+ is a huge psychological leap. I think that return is better fps+future / $ than the jump from the GTS-320 to GTS-640. Especially considering overclocking both of them closes the gap of an OC'd 320 vs OC'ed 640.
I know the GTS-320 has visible weaknesses, but really I don't see the GTS-640 as a better long-term strategy than saving that price difference and re-investing it when the overclocked GTS-320 can't handle games, cause that's likely when the GTS-640 will struggle too.
You back already?? That was quick.
Wrong. At 1680X1050res along with some AA and AF the 320mb 8800GTS really starts to take a dive compared to that of a 640mb 8800GTS. And its only going to get worse in some of these future titles with complex textures eating into GPU ram.
Oh gods not this idiot again. Perhaps an IP ban is in order.
| Quote : Wrong. At 1680X1050res along with some AA and AF the 320mb 8800GTS really starts to take a dive compared to that of a 640mb 8800GTS. And its only going to get worse in some of these future titles with complex textures eating into GPU ram.
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He just got banned today, and I am sure an IP ban has been issued. He was apparently able to figure out how to use proxies.
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You're missing what I'm saying. I agree it does dive, but the same dive is felt for the GTS-640 compared to the GTX, and even more so as we push beyond where the GTS-640 comes back towards the GTS-320, but the GTX stays way out in front.
So like I said, fps/$ throughout the available performance range the two ends of the spectrum hold up better IMO.
You can disagree if you want, I'm not about to bother arguing beyond explaining my position.
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The only future games that would have that issue are OpenGL games like Quake Wars that use MegaTextures, instead of using memory saving write-outs and render from buffers. And that method can already occur on all cards with Oblivion running insane 4kx4k textures (or the option of 8x8 if someone like Quarg made them).
I disagree about the future of the GTS, and think that of all the weak points the memory isn't going to be as much of a problem as the weakness of the core. Which is why I say the 320->640 won't matter as much as the GTS=>GTX period.
At this point in time that's what I believe based on my knowledge, but I doubt anyone would disagree with even the numbers now with regards to the %performance diff / $ price difference. The only way the GTS-640 comes close to either is bringing it close to the GTX by doing % price difference, but that again brings it further away from a GTS-320.
Anywhoo, now that I've explained it, I'm goin' to bed, might be skiin' tomorrow, and waking up in 6 hours either way just to check. 8)
$350 for a GTS 640mb!? Damn, I wish Nvidia would release GOOD Vista drivers for the 8800's. I'm stuck with the Geforce 7 series when the 8800 GTS is now in my price range.
true, but the 640mb can at least do higher resolutions, do you remember the benchmark that showed even the 7900gt beating the 320mb gts out in I believe oblivion at 16*12. The 640mb gts demolished the gtx's score, but the 320mb gts had something like 20fps, so there would be some reasons to go with the 640mb if you're an nvidia fan, but now with the r600 coming out with 512bit memory at the same price, it's kinda hard to justify the 640mb gts
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Hello Kettle, thy name is pot.
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Hello Kettle, thy name is pot.
Hardly
. Im not the one that continues to argue even after bone hard VISUAL EVIDENCE IS THROWN INTO MY FACE as you morons continue to do.
Just like what is going on right here-
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/ftopic-230573-200.html
Right. Bottleneck. Whatever.
I have a question Rob, if I may refer to you by your real name, if you think Toms forums is so full of noobs and morons, and people that love bottlenecking their systems and all that bullshit you continue to go on about, why, when you continue to get banned, do you come back?
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Hello Kettle, thy name is pot.
Hardly
. Im not the one that continues to argue even after bone hard VISUAL EVIDENCE IS THROWN INTO MY FACE as you morons continue to do.
Just like what is going on right here-
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/fto [...] mlActually, you are the one THAT CONTINUES TO ARGUE AFTER NUMEROUS BANNINGS :!: You just admitted who you are, so why don't you lighten up and talk to people like a normal adult before you get banned for the 6th time. or is it 7 now?
I find it hilarious that we are all morons, yet YOU are the one the continues to repeat the same thing without applying any real though to it, AND YOU are the one that continues to get banned, while we are all still here. There must be a conspiracy against you or something.
Who thinks Rob the 6th will make it through to Monday with the same user name?
First off, the only claim I've made is that you are an insulting moron. AND I HAVE PLENTY of visual evidence of that. Though I must admit, I would have far more if your posts didn't keep getting deleted by the mods when you get banned.
Second, most of your "visual evidence" doesn't even support what you are trying to say, and you have absolutely no clue what the definition of a bottleneck is, or that people's definitions of value vary greatly.
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Well because its pretty obvious that when being out numbered by Thousands Of Idiots that me being the only person here with a damn clue will be the one to get all the ridicule.
So you admit who you are. Hnn. We're getting somewhere.
You still didn't answer my question.
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Keep telling yourself that douchebag
You don't win an argument by slinging around insults.
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Well because its pretty obvious that when being out numbered by Thousands Of Idiots that me being the only person here with a damn clue will be the one to get all the ridicule.
If you don't like it here, then go somewhere else. It's obvious to all of THG that your only useful purpose here is for comic relief, so if you want to be more than that go where people like you are accepted. I think Goetse is taking applications.
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Of course the GTS-640 will be faster at those settings... but will either card even be playable in Crysis with those settings? I doubt it.
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Those tests were done at extreme resolutions... I don't think anyone with a panel res of 2560x1600 would even be considering a GTS-320. Why would they pay so much for a panel but so little for a video card?
Very good point.
this seems entertaining. ill join in to.
rob you suck
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As if I care. You obviously don't understand what I'm saying based on your reply, and like I said I'm not going to waste my time arguing the point with someone who doesn't get it.
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I was, and maybe you need to re-read my posts to figure that out, starting with the one you quoted (just look at the section you didn't quote to get context), then to the one that I said to I_L_T before that that should make it crystal clear to you;
"If the 640 is worth that much more than the 320, then definitely the GTX is worth the $100 more than the GTS."
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I didn't change the topic, if anything that was YOU; but like a rabid dog when you misunderstand something you latch on to it and want to just fight.
Rob, understand this, I don't care what your opinion is, you know very little and have so little to contribute, that you're a waste of time. So in future I'm simply going to form-letter-post a reply to you because you're a colossal waste of time.
You may have some choice parts in your rig but your head is full of junk.
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With what... pictures of your lame a$$ vacation???
Why is he still here? Greaper08, robx2, Robbie....Get out of the forums, all you've done is ridicule people, worse yet, you ridicule a forum staple, ape knows far and away more than you do about computer. Based on the way you talk and carry yourself in conversation, I peg you at less than 20, spoiled, ADD, and very aggressive, oh and alone with no friends. You do poorly in school with the exception of one subject, and for the most part, you lack confidence, which is why you feel it necessary to belittle others in order to artificially inflate your ego.
I'm not participating in this reply further. If you feel I’m WAAAY off, than you can spam my pm for all I care, just keep your crap out of the forums and try to make a friend by being mutually respective of his/her thoughts and actions. Honestly man, you're going to be a very lonely world if you keep this attitude up, hopefully you won't be 30+ before you heed my words.
Now as for a real question. I know this thread is about the 640 vs. 320, but would a gtx at 1680x1050 offer much of a benefit? (Paired with e6600 @ 3.6 GHz)
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Keep telling yourself that douchebag
aa yes.. guess what time is it?
YES.. ITS TIME FOR IT..
TIME FOR WONDERFUL AFGHAN LOVE!!
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Why, Thank you...
I knew already but thanks anyway...
I would just laugh at this imbecile. Even with his almighty rig he has little enough to do that he has to come here and insult people better than himself.
Certainly suggests something about his private life
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sadly, thats preety usual from internet e-toughtguys, random basement dwellers (almost always with very little money ), who gets "important" for any stupid thing they can do .. D:
WTF dude do you go around from post to post pi$$ing people off or what???
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/har [...] sc-50.html
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LOL
Petition to ban reaper08 here
IP banning is no longer an effective way of banning forum trolls. If any of the administrators here would like some assistance in permanently banning this user, please send me a PM and i will gladly assist.
And for the rest of you folks, i think it would be a better idea to just ignore instead of trying to incite.
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Thats not the argument you douche
taking pointers from ape I see
lol. First of all I think you need to calm down. Second, its pointless which one is faster if they both don't produce playable frame rates. These cards were not made to be benchmarked, they were made to run applications and games.
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Those tests were done at extreme resolutions... I don't think anyone with a panel res of 2560x1600 would even be considering a GTS-320. Why would they pay so much for a panel but so little for a video card?
OPEN YOUR EYES YOU BLIND IDIOT
THEY WERE DONE AT MANY MANY DIFFERENT RESOLUTIONS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 1280X1024
I reread the Article you linked... and there were no comparisons done at 1280x1024... maybe your referring to a different article?
What I find extremely pathetic is how after you're banned you come back under a not so clever name. You then start defending your old post while trying to convince people it's not you. You're not fooling anyone, so IF you happen to get back on here after your inevitable ban, man-up and stop acting like a child...mmmkay?
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During my short time here i´ve really learned to appreciate the ignore button. It works wonders, really.
ROB READ THIS!!!!
READ THIS
Rob,
Since the issue at hand seems to have changed, why don't you post concerning the issue of the day, namely:
Why are you still hereMore importantly, why do you keep coming back?You apparently hate all of us, and none of us will ever take you seriously on anything again, since you tend to make up your mind before you speak, and ignore any evidence that countermands the point you are trying to make. Plus, you do it in an insulting way. Since its no longer possible for you to contribute without a drastic attitude change, I think we can all agree that leaving would probably be best for everyone.
So what do you get out of this? You don't help anyone, and only the newest members even remotely listen to you. Hopefully, you at least get some amusement out of this.
And I am not trying to be insulting here, I am saying this in all seriousness.
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