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Hi guys, system rig in the sig...

I run my computer 24/7 basically, and find that my room gets very warm... I'm wondering if switching from air cooling to water cooling will help lower the temperature of the room (for volume purposes, it's a 10x10x10 cube)...

And if anyone has any ideas on what would be a good beginner's water cooling setup, should the answer be 'yes, noob, watercooling will help keep your room cooler, also' I'd be trying to squeeze it all into an Antec SuperLAN Boy case, with 2 HDD's, 1 CD Drive, and an 8800GTS (for now)... later additions will be an upgrade to an 8800GTX, and a sound blaster x-fi fatality, with the drive bay in front...

I am willing to do light modding work, including the removal of the HDD Bay!!

current pic of the rig, for spacial-relation purposes:

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any advice? thanks!

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Switching will not help to keep your room cool. Read up some on the Law of Conservation of Matter and Energy.

Overall it would slightly increase the ambient temp in your room. Nothing dramatic or noticeable, but you would be drawing in more energy to power your WC setup.

On a different note, I would interested in seeing how you stuff a GTX into a Lanboy...it won't even fit into a 180 without removing the upper HDD bay.

Reply to Rugger

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Switching will not help to keep your room cool. Read up some on the Law of Conservation of Matter and Energy.

Overall it would slightly increase the ambient temp in your room. Nothing dramatic or noticeable, but you would be drawing in more energy to power your WC setup.



Thanks for the info

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On a different note, I would interested in seeing how you stuff a GTX into a Lanboy...it won't even fit into a 180 without removing the upper HDD bay.



stuffed between slot covers and HDD Bay
http://home.mchsi.com/~hosting/evga8800gtx.jpg

fitted with the HDD Bay removed
http://www.kuyaglen.com/mods/8800gtxsuperlanboy/8800gtx_in_superlanboy.34.jpg

Please note that neither of these are my case (thank God... if my cabling job looked like that second one, I'd hit myself... over... and over... and over... and over... and over...)

Reply to truromeo4juliet
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I have to agree, water cooling would not help with your room heating up issue. It would however cool your PC better if done properly. Also what are the temps of your PC? I didn't see any kind of exhaust fan in the rear of the case just curious is all. Don't feel bad though my room does the same thing if I keep the door to my room closed for several hours my room becomes a steam room :( . Only suggestion i can give you is if you are able to open a door/window of some kind.

Reply to fate0n3

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Please note that neither of these are my case (thank God... if my cabling job looked like that second one, I'd hit myself... over... and over... and over... and over... and over...)


Looks alot like mine...

Reply to randomizer

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I have to agree, water cooling would not help with your room heating up issue. It would however cool your PC better if done properly. Also what are the temps of your PC? I didn't see any kind of exhaust fan in the rear of the case just curious is all. Don't feel bad though my room does the same thing if I keep the door to my room closed for several hours my room becomes a steam room :( . Only suggestion i can give you is if you are able to open a door/window of some kind.



hah yea sorry... that pic was taken um... 5 days ago...

I have since removed the 2 x 7800GTX's and sold them to another THG member... currently using a placeholder Radeon x550 again, and I did install a new exhaust fan (the last one crapped out)... it's an antec fan with blue LED's (like in the front) it's really neat :) nice glow on the inside without the total brightness of the UV CCFLs I had in there before... I may add CCFLs back in eventually, but not soon...

Reply to truromeo4juliet

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Please note that neither of these are my case (thank God... if my cabling job looked like that second one, I'd hit myself... over... and over... and over... and over... and over...)


Looks alot like mine...

maybe it is? oops? :)

Reply to truromeo4juliet
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I'd hit myself... over... and over... and over... and over... and over...


:lol:

Reply to Rugger
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My two cents,

I used to have the High end Zalman 7700 something cooler, and I think it made a differance in room temps. My room used to be the hot spot. Since I put the swiftech in seems cooler. I'm no expert. What case will you be using for the watercooling? The LanBoy might be tight.

Good Luck

Reply to joewho

your cpu is the major part to blame for heating your room there

i had a celeron d 2.4 a while back - my room was cool till i got that chip and it aint even that hot!

Reply to apache_lives
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Please note that neither of these are my case (thank God... if my cabling job looked like that second one, I'd hit myself... over... and over... and over... and over... and over...)


Looks alot like mine...

*puts on boxing gloves*

Reply to mugz

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Switching will not help to keep your room cool. Read up some on the Law of Conservation of Matter and Energy.



Unless you put the rad in a different room. It's been done.

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Overall it would slightly increase the ambient temp in your room. Nothing dramatic or noticeable, but you would be drawing in more energy to power your WC setup.



Not necessarily. Replace a fan-rich air cooled box with a dual reserator rig with one cae fan and you might burn less A/C on cooling.

Reply to clue69less
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Any cooling solution (that we can afford) is a simple heat exchange solution. Worse, some of the solutions add heat to that already produced. WC cooling solutions have pumps, which produce heat.

So unless you have some way of venting the heat removed by your solution externally to your environment, your environment will heat up as a result. If you dump the heat externally, then THAT environment will heat up.

Seems pretty simple to me... Heat in, heat out.

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Switching will not help to keep your room cool. Read up some on the Law of Conservation of Matter and Energy.

Overall it would slightly increase the ambient temp in your room. Nothing dramatic or noticeable, but you would be drawing in more energy to power your WC setup.

On a different note, I would interested in seeing how you stuff a GTX into a Lanboy...it won't even fit into a 180 without removing the upper HDD bay.



Must have skipped on a few physics classes :)

Anyhow :idea: "cooling your room" :idea: to cool your room will be a great solution. Open windows and placing huge fans to get the air flowing annoyed me for a while but I got used to that in time and my CPU temp also dropped with 5 degrees so everyone is a winner :wink:

Reply to xela
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Dude,

All you need is a nice 120mm fan for the back of that case. That will help alot.

Reply to joewho
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also' I'd be trying to squeeze it all into an Antec SuperLAN Boy case


That desire takes away the option of distancing the rad.

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Not necessarily. Replace a fan-rich air cooled box with a dual reserator rig with one cae fan and you might burn less A/C on cooling.


Possible...but I would like to see that done with a Lanboy, 8800GTX, and light modding. The Reserator is over 23" tall and the Lanboy is 16.5"

Reply to Rugger

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also' I'd be trying to squeeze it all into an Antec SuperLAN Boy case


That desire takes away the option of distancing the rad.

The A/C cord must then be eliminated, right?

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Not necessarily. Replace a fan-rich air cooled box with a dual reserator rig with one cae fan and you might burn less A/C on cooling.


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Possible...but I would like to see that done with a Lanboy, 8800GTX, and light modding. The Reserator is over 23" tall and the Lanboy is 16.5"



Underclock it.

C'mon Rugger, think outside the box for a change.

Reply to clue69less
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Underclock it.


:? What are you talking about underclocking? Whatever it is, it won't make the 23" tall Reserator fit into a 16.5" tall Lanboy case any easier.

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C'mon Rugger, think outside the box for a change.


The point is that he wants it inside the box. More than likely he wants it inside the case for easy transportation to LAN parties. Water is a great alternative to air cooling, but it is not as good as air for applications when the system will be moved frequently. I'll also say that there are alternatives for reducing power/heat in the system with passive WC like the Reserator or moving the radiator outside the room in a traditional WC setup, but I don't believe those solutions meet the intent of the OP.

Reply to Rugger

build a system like mine and vent the exhaust outside

Reply to gomerpile

Switching to water cooling will not change the heat output of your system. It will however result in lower temps of the components since the heat dissipation is at much faster rate compare to an air cooling. So like I said the heat output will not decrease, so the room temperature will rise no different than with air cooling.

I have the same room with 10x12 but I placed my pc by the window with the back end facing outside. In addition I have a window fan that helps direct the warm exhaust air out the back of the case and out the window. So my room is able to maintain at a tolerable temperatures thus helps with my pc to stay cool.

Reply to chuckshissle
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So it's like a Dryer duct? I'm thinking now, watch out. :lol:

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