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Hi!

Man, am I tired.

I have a Vista machine and I just purchased XP Home with the assumption that partitioning a hard drive would be something easy and that once I do that, all I have to do is follow some guy's directions on how to dual boot and I will have two Operating Systems on one computer.

I can't even go beyond the first step.

What happens is, I open "Computer Management," right-click on my hard drive and hit "Shrink Volume," and it says that I can only shrink by 310 MB, even though I have 91869 MB (89-something GB) of free space open on my 350 GB drive. I have over a quarter of open space on my hard drive

nice and defragged

removed the page file or whatever the hell that was, whatever I did it made my computer SLOWER

and it only lets me shrink 310 MB?

Why did I spend $90 on XP if you aren't going to let me partition my hard drive?

*starts yelling mean things at his computer like a cruel master*

You're a mean, naughty boy *takes a bull-whip and starts lashing at the aluminum case, creating scratches* Oh yes you are.

I am starting to hate computers, ladies and gentlemen. Because I might have to buy more stuff, right? Like another hard drive? Some kind of partition software that I am only going to use once and never touch again? Am I going to have to buy that?

So if you guys are so awesome with your computers, perhaps you can... like... throw some ideas out for me to try. I know you're busy people, you got to tinker with your computers-- I understand. But if you could help me, help me to be more like you, too, maybe we all can spread our geekiness and nerdiness around. I don't like to test things out on my own and watch things break or not work right, I have too much important stuff on my computer to do that.

How can I change the 310 MB into something more decent? Where did that 310 MB come from, anyways? Doesn't it know I have more open space than that? And I remember XP used to have a neat defragmentation graph that showed you all the blocks and stuff on your hard drive--HOW COME VISTA DOESN'T HAVE THIS? How do I know the defrag is working in Vista???

Okay, you're done reading here.

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http://partitionlogic.org.uk/downl [...] .html#0.69

Free partitioning program. Pretty sure PCWorld recommended this as a good alternative. Have not tried it myself.

You have another problem too. On a dual boot with XP and Vista, XP should be installed first, then Vista. If you do it the other way round you will not see Vista in the boot menu. There is a fairly easy fix for this using a free utility but the name of the program escapes me. If no one else knows it I will try to look it up for you. You'll get this done and for free too. Just give it a little time till you get the utils lined up.


Message edited by notherdude on 03-19-2008 at 03:33:06 AM
------------------------------ tehhardpro wrote :


notherdude u have an old hand. Having an old hand doesnt make sence. Cuz its old. get a new one.. seems like ur hand doesnt understand what it is writing. So placve it in ur rig instead of vista human orgnoids will amke more sense
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So I assume the 310 MB thing is normal and I should use a third-party program like Partition Logic?

I'll try it out and let y'all know if it works

"You have another problem too. On a dual boot with XP and Vista, XP should be installed first, then Vista. If you do it the other way round you will not see Vista in the boot menu. There is a fairly easy fix for this using a free utility but the name of the program escapes me."

^Is it EasyBCD?


Message edited by erik_tilton on 03-19-2008 at 08:40:11 AM
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I don't know why Vista only let you shrink 310 meg but I'm pretty sure you can get around this with a partitioning program that operates outside of Windows. I think you boot off the Partition Logic disk. I recently did what you are trying to do so I could have a separate partition to put backup images on. Vista limited me to a partition of 40 gig or so. This in a 200 gig drive with maybe 120 gig free.

------------------------------ tehhardpro wrote :


notherdude u have an old hand. Having an old hand doesnt make sence. Cuz its old. get a new one.. seems like ur hand doesnt understand what it is writing. So placve it in ur rig instead of vista human orgnoids will amke more sense
Reply to notherdude

I tried it last night and it said my hard disk was not registered, and didn't go beyond that.

I'd rather not buy another hard drive or some software, is there anything I could do to make the hard disk registered?

Reply to erik_tilton

Tried what, partition Logic, or drive management in Vista? Not familiar with the term 'registered' in connection with a hard disk. Usually hear registered in connection to purchasing software.

------------------------------ tehhardpro wrote :


notherdude u have an old hand. Having an old hand doesnt make sence. Cuz its old. get a new one.. seems like ur hand doesnt understand what it is writing. So placve it in ur rig instead of vista human orgnoids will amke more sense
Reply to notherdude

here is a good read that should be helpful
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/237014-35-both
I used the same approach in reverse. I had XP and wanted vista and had only one partition.
The gparted boot cd worked perfectly other than on my rig I needed to use the force VESA on the menu as my video card didnt like something.
The program worked great and windows never knew anything happened.

oops sorry about the double post I thought I was in quick edit mode.


Message edited by pat mcgroin on 03-19-2008 at 11:25:32 PM
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notherdude wrote :

Tried what, partition Logic, or drive management in Vista? Not familiar with the term 'registered' in connection with a hard disk. Usually hear registered in connection to purchasing software.


Partition Logic

 

TY Pat, I'll take a look. (EDIT: Hehehe, turns out I had that topic already bookmarked from earlier. TY though, I might skim it again to see if there's anything I missed.)

 

So far I am defragging my hard drive with PerfectDisk to see if that will bump the 310 MB into a larger number.

 

And thank you notherdude for sticking around. Usually people just throw their hands up in the air and move on to something else, I greatly appreciate you checking up on my topic :)


Message edited by erik_tilton on 03-20-2008 at 12:25:49 AM
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WAHOO! I DEFRAGGED using PerfectDisk and now it lets me shrink by 57085 MB! (even though I now have 165 GB of free space... OH WELL!)

Maybe I should tinker around with it s'more and see if I can increase this.

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erik_tilton wrote :

WAHOO! I DEFRAGGED using PerfectDisk and now it lets me shrink by 57085 MB! (even though I now have 165 GB of free space... OH WELL!)

Maybe I should tinker around with it s'more and see if I can increase this.



Interesting. Good idea trying that. Makes sense I guess. Noted for future reference.

What does not make sense to me is what about Vista's supposed automatic defragging? You'd think it would do better than that. I would also hope that the drive manager ought to throw up a message about the drive being too fragmented to shrink instead of just telling you 310 meg! Oh well. Perhaps perfect disk is just that much better than Vista's built-in defragging.


Message edited by notherdude on 03-20-2008 at 02:41:38 AM
------------------------------ tehhardpro wrote :


notherdude u have an old hand. Having an old hand doesnt make sence. Cuz its old. get a new one.. seems like ur hand doesnt understand what it is writing. So placve it in ur rig instead of vista human orgnoids will amke more sense
Reply to notherdude

WHOAAAAAA, I restarted my computer and shrinking gave me HALF of my free space to partition. PerfectDisk "trial" is a beast.

Screw Vista's defrag, LOL. Screw Vista in general. Now I have XP on my computer, too! XP is so snappy at everything in my favorite games.

Yeah, PerfectDisk went and took all of my data and smooshed it like a PBJ sandwich. I highly recommend people download the trial version, no need to buy partition software, makes me happeh


Message edited by erik_tilton on 03-20-2008 at 02:51:06 PM
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