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I am now the proud owner of an XFX 8800 gts, as I have finally replaced my slightly aging x1600xt...However i was in for a surprise.
After installing all the usual software and games I got to a little racing in NFS Carbon...
Entering the game, my Quantex 650x UPS started to scream...beep, beep...and it stopped only after quitting the game...
the nVidia website specifies a 450W power supply, whereas my Hiper only gives 425W(Hiper Power HPU-4S425-EU V1)...
I don't know how much of a big news is what I said, but it is stronlgy advisable that all you 8800 dreamers out there purchase at least a 500-550W power supply before buying the video card...

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The real question would be how many recommended amps on the 12v rail are required for the GTS, and how many did your Hiper have?

Reply to Gary_Busey

the minimum required Amp is 26 on the 12V rails and my Hiper has 31 (15+16)...but I also have an e6400, 2 gb ddru geil ultra 800 cas4, 2 hdd (seagate 250 sata2 + seagate 160 sata2)...so it's kinda normal...i don't know... no gaming so far till I buy new power supply...shoot...

Reply to horsepower288

Yeah, you were cuttin is close. At least that 8800 will make a good paperweight.

Reply to Gary_Busey
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Read the stickies in the PSU forum. Adding the amps 12v rails is not how you come up with total amps. That PSU won't cut it and neither will the Hiper 580 though the Corsair 520 will. I basically have the same set-up and I am using the OCZ GameXStream 600.

Reply to haywood

hm, yeah, either that ocz 600 or THERMALTAKE W0103RE 600W 14CM FAN W/ PFC....one of them should be enough, what the heck...

Reply to horsepower288

You can't just add the 12V rail amperage together. You have to get the total wattage that the 12V could put out all together then divide that by 12.

Reply to bruce555

...how on earth did you think there was a problem with you PSU when your UPS was giving a warning? You're trying to draw too much power from your UPS. Reduce load on your UPS or buy a new UPS that supports larger load.

Try moving your monitor and other peripherals off the UPS or buy a more efficient PSU.

Your PSU is probably fine but most of the advice given about PSUs by others in this thread is sound and worth checking into. However, it won't solve your problem. Your PSU didn't switch off or die due to an overload condition, your UPS complained about having too large of a load on it.

The sheer amount of idiocy necessary for everyone in this thread to ignore the obvious problem simply astounds me. In a room full of various computer components only one of them is reporting an error condition... it might be the component that has something wrong with it.

Reply to flasher702

Sound like you're overloading your UPS, not your power supply. I'm running an 8800 gts on a 16A/18A 12V power supply no prob. <10A is neede for this card:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/v [...] dup_8.html

Reply to coldneutron
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teach me: what is a ups?? :?

Reply to meljor
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teach me: what is a ups?? :?

Reply to meljor

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teach me: what is a ups?? :?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unint [...] wer_supply

Uninterruptible Power Supply

aka "battery backup"

The wikipedia article I linked above seems to give a decent overview. The picture they have is the type that we're talking about here.

Reply to flasher702

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teach me: what is a ups?? :?



Uninterruptible Power Supply that he has his PSU (comp power supply) plugged in to.

Reply to coldneutron
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teach me: what is a ups?? :?



UPS means uninteruptable power supply, it helps when the power falls out, the UPS then become's active, it is sort of a battery for your pc so you can safely shut off your computer without losing your data.


But to the OP, it sounds more like your UPS has a problem then your PSU.

Reply to FeareX
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Oh just to late :oops:

Ah well :D

Reply to FeareX

Always go over your system wattage requirements. That way you can be sure of that it will have enough power supplying it's demand. But for me I have 600watts when the "Power Calculator" is telling me to use 680watts.

Reply to chuckshissle

If that 650 in your "Quantex 650x" stands for volt-amps (I couldn't find it online?), then chances are your UPS (not to be confused with PSU) is only good for 390 W or less. Your 450 W PSU will actually pull somewhere between 500 and 560 W out of the wall, depending on its efficiency. If it says "85% efficiency", then divide the max power (450 W) by the efficiency (85%) to get the outlet power consumed (in this example, about 530 W). The 80 "missing" watts in this example were lost to inefficiencies in the PSU and are transformed into heat and fan rotation.

That max outlet power should be considered a bare minimum for your UPS rating, and only then if you have nothing else (such as a monitor !) plugged into the UPS. Even if your UPS is 650 Watts (again, I can't find it online), if you have anything else plugged into it (e.g. your monitor), you'll likely overload it. If it's 390 W, you'll overload it pretty badly and pretty easily with nothing more than your computer.

For a computer drawing ~550 W out of the wall, coupled with a 100 W LCD screen, you'll want a UPS good for 750 W. I have a 600 W PSU (= max ~700 W outlet power, though I never actually use anywhere near that much) and a 300 W LCD HDTV plugged into a 1200 W (2000 VA) UPS. This gives me enough headroom that I don't have to worry about maxing the UPS out, and also gives me a little more time to shut things down before I lose all power.

Ultra has a 900 W / 1500 VA model that might work for you. It all depends on what else you plug into the thing.

EDIT: Correction. If your UPS is in fact rated for 650 W (not the same as VA, since they're sinusoidal), you're only using a small monitor (100 W or less), your PSU's efficiency is 80% or greater, and nothing else is plugged into the UPS' battery-backed outlets, then you should be ok in theory.

Reply to TeraMedia

well at least their are plenty of people who know what a UPS is :)

Reply to flasher702

wow...i am out for like one hour and a half and I come back to find a river of information :)...I'll move the monitor, subwoofer and printer to another plug and see what happens...
I should add that with the UPS out of the question and the computer plugged directly to the wall, I could play NFS Carbon easily, but after quitting the game it just froze...nothing worked...no ctrl+alt+del, no nothing... i had to restart it from the button...I hate that...

Reply to horsepower288

Subwoofer! Gawd! What's the power rating on that thing? Tell me you didn't have that plugged into a powered outlet on your UPS.

Reply to TeraMedia
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Corsair 520 powers my rig. No problems whatsoever with an eVga 8800 GTS 640, 6600 cpu, 2 Gig ram, 250 Gig SATA WD, 1 Optical drive - and runs cool! Solid rails!

Reply to ejay

no subwoofer in the UPS...not anymore...the game runs smoothly with only the PSU cable and the modem connected to the UPS...and the computer doesn't freeze anymore...hope it stays like that

Reply to horsepower288
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