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How do I go about getting Vista 64-bit? And is it unstable still?

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May 3, 2008 4:20:01 AM

I have Home Premium retail, but the version inside is 32-bit. Someone told me I can get a free 64-bit version from Microsoft by asking. What do I need to do?

And, is it unstable? I know 64bit XP was quite unstable, but Vista was 64-bit from the start, yes?

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May 3, 2008 11:58:00 AM

Hello? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
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May 3, 2008 12:20:20 PM

Um, he's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.



I have heard you can order the CD/DVD from Microsoft. I never heard xp 64 was unstable, just had no driver support which resulted in using 32 bit drivers being used causing instability. I am looking at vista 64 bit also? anyone provide some guidance here....
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May 3, 2008 12:24:52 PM

There is, or never was any instability issues with Vista, 32 or 64 bit as long as all your hardware is Vista compatible. Any rumors you may have heard is mostly baloney.

To get a 64 bit DVD for your version of Windows for about $10, go here.
I did this when I bought Home Premium, took about a week to get it.


http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/ordermedia/d...

have your product key ready.

You'll also need to supply the following information:
Your name
Your shipping address
Credit card information
Card type
Card number
Expiration date
Billing address
Media choice
Your e-mail address**

you pay for the cost of media and shipping and handling.

Windows Vista Alternate Media

Congratulations on upgrading to Windows Vista. The retail package product ships on DVD with 32-bit edition software, but two forms of alternate media are available to help meet your specific requirements:

32-bit CD
If your system features a CD drive but no DVD drive, you can order Windows Vista on CD-ROM. The installation files span multiple discs, so unattended installations are not possible.

64-bit DVD
If your system features a 64-bit processor, you can take advantage of its advanced design by ordering 64-bit software media. You'll get the same interface, features, and functions, but you'll get them in an operating system that takes advantage of access to vastly more memory. All installation files are on a single disc. Please note that 64-bit media is included in the box with the purchase of Windows Vista Ultimate.

The 64-bit version of Windows Vista is not for everyone. Please confirm that your system, applications, and devices are compatible with a 64-bit edition of Windows Vista before installing. Learn more about the 64-bit editions of Windows Vista.

You can order either of these alternate media for a minimal fee, including shipping and handling. To order, you'll need to supply the 25-character product key that came with your purchase.* You'll find the product key on a yellow sticker on the back of your DVD media holder.
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May 3, 2008 12:29:25 PM

Stability issues?? What are you talking about? There are no stability issues with Vista64.
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May 3, 2008 12:44:58 PM

The only stability issues i have ever heard of are mrsbytch's constant unstable online persona.

in all seriousness, vista x64 is very stable, and compatible with a lot of hardware, and software.
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May 3, 2008 1:15:48 PM

Vista 64 is very stable, plenty fast, and pretty much works with everything - so long as you are not running really old apps or hardware, which applies to 32 also, - go for it. You will find that contrary to superficial blog coverage Vista, particularly 64, has quite a following among enthusiasts.
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May 3, 2008 1:28:18 PM

I have a Conroe e6600. I built my PC specifically to take Vista. Is there anything else I need to worry about? This was my first ever computer I built and I really might have messed up somewhere.

The only "old" things I run are games from the early 2000s and Age of Empires.

oh, and could I get that upgrade link again? It doesnt work.
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May 3, 2008 1:43:53 PM

There's one thing MS forgot to do about my PC. I'm running Vista 64 Ultimate with 2x500 GB in RAID 0. After I've update to SP1 it shows me black screen says "Disk reading occured Press Ctrl + Alt + Del to restart". I've been installing windows for 5 times and I've figured it out "Hey, MS made my system unstable" lol.
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May 3, 2008 1:53:17 PM

By the way, remember you cannot *upgrade* a 32 bit OS to a 64 bit OS.
You have to do a complete fresh install.
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May 3, 2008 1:55:20 PM

I'm actually having less trouble under Vista 64 than I was under 32 -- The Witcher no longer crashes every hour or so for example. Go figure.
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May 3, 2008 1:57:00 PM

foolfromhell said:
I have Home Premium retail, but the version inside is 32-bit. Someone told me I can get a free 64-bit version from Microsoft by asking. What do I need to do?

And, is it unstable? I know 64bit XP was quite unstable, but Vista was 64-bit from the start, yes?


Unstable? TOTAL BS

You CAN use the 64 bit vista disc with your 32 bit licence number - works AOK
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May 3, 2008 2:00:58 PM

I just wanna add that Vista 64-bit is stable as a rock. I've used it since february 2007, and never had a crash. All of my games (except DOS ones LOL) works fines until now, so all is good... to me at least
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May 3, 2008 4:02:46 PM

I agree with NightlySputnik, Vista is and was stable as a rock right from the beginning, even before the service pack. Some problems experienced before had been the result of poor software from some OEM manufacturers.
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May 3, 2008 5:16:22 PM

The website offers Windows Vista SP1 64-bit. But, I bought Vista months ago, pre SP1. Will it work anyway?
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May 3, 2008 5:26:31 PM

Yes, it will work fine.
As I said, you must do a complete fresh install anyway.
Did they let you order it? If so, you are good to go.
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May 3, 2008 11:53:15 PM

Kursun said:
I agree with NightlySputnik, Vista is and was stable as a rock right from the beginning, even before the service pack. Some problems experienced before had been the result of poor software from some OEM manufacturers.


Exactly, im so over the BS with the bugs and whatever.

Personally, i cant wait for the manufacturers to stop making drivers and software for xp, and force everyone to buy new, when there old POS dies they get forced to vista, come on XP is over 6 years old now people! Thats OBSOLETE!!!!! Would you use a 6 year old PC? (Pentium 4/Athlon XP, 512mb memory, GeForce4/ATi 8500) - there so dammed slow!
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May 4, 2008 12:17:12 AM

Vista 64 has been an incredibly good performer in my experience...almost weirdly so.
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May 4, 2008 12:42:03 AM

Just remember 1 thing. The offer isn' good for OEM copies of Vista. Just upgrade copies.
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Anonymous
May 25, 2009 2:12:54 AM

Vista Ultimate 64x - I've had it with this system!!!

My setup : vista 64x | E8400@3.6 | 4Gb ocz ram | 9800GTX+

I have been trying to run couple of my games and they load and everything seems to work fine.

....wait did I said fine? Approximatley 30min, 1hour max my game halts with a sound loop and only way to restore system is with a cold reboot.

I'm pretty sure it's the all famous, nvlddmkm has stopped responding...aka BSOD. This past weekend I have been trying a shitload of nvidia drivers :
177.66
177.40
177.39
175.19
181.00
181.22
178.24
182.46

Keep in mind I don't update on top of the old one.
Step 1 : remove both nvidia driver and physx, if there is one
Step 2 : boot up in safe-mode
Step 3 : use driversweeper and clean everything, physx,nvidia display drivers
Step 4 : reboot
Step 5 : disable any antivirus and install the new drivers.

Most of these forceware drivers are downloaded from guru3d but always the same issue with some games :
call of duty: world at war
flatout:ultimate challenge
call of duty 4 : modern warfare
gta IV
burnout paradise
fallout 3...the list goes on.

But few games I have never had any issue with and to name a few: Dead Space, Newest Tomb Raider and silent hill : homecoming.

I've just had it with these random lock-ups when I'm trying to enjoy a good game. So therfore trying the 32bit version of vista ultimate.

users with vista 64x os + nVIDIA graphic card tell me....random lock-ups in games, yes / no ? :) 
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Anonymous
May 25, 2009 2:30:35 AM

My setup : vista ultimate 64x | E8400@3.6 | 4Gb ocz ram | 9800GTX+

I have been trying to run a couple of my games and they load and everything seems to work fine. ...

....wait did I said fine? Approximately after a 30min - 1hour of gameplay the game freezes following-up with a sound loop and the only way to restore system is with a cold reboot.

I'm pretty sure it's the all famous nvlddmkm has stopped responding because it read in the bsod screen. Also when I start computer again it gives me info that graphic driver was the cause for it.

Anyway this past weekend I have been trying a shitload of nvidia Forceware drivers:
177.66
177.40
177.39
175.19
181.00
181.22
178.24
182.46

Keep in mind I don't update on top of the old one.
Step 1 : remove both nvidia driver and physx, if there is one
Step 2 : boot up in safe-mode
Step 3 : use driversweeper and clean everything, physx,nvidia display drivers
Step 4 : reboot
Step 5 : disable any antivirus and install the new drivers.

To name a few games that lock-up:
Call of duty: world at war
Flatout:ultimate challenge
Call of duty 4 : modern warfare
GTA IV
Burnout paradise
Fallout 3
...the list goes on.

Never seem to lock-up:
Dead Space
Tomb Raider : underworld
Silent hill : homecoming

users with vista ultimate 64 + nVIDIA graphic card; Are you familiar with this issue ?

Beside this issue with nvidia drivers the system has been pretty flawless.

( no allowed to edit previous post )
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May 25, 2009 8:08:37 AM

ummmm your using an overclocked system - more likely its that

im using a Q6600 @ 3.5, 8gb ram and an 8800GT with all sorts of drivers over the past year no issues

nvidia has been hopeless in the last two years with dud cards, drivers and so on - last time i buy there products in a while i think

what chipset you using (and motherboard) ?
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Anonymous
May 25, 2009 11:23:45 AM

i'm using abit p5k pro with P35 chipset

also,

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938194

This update resolves the following issues:
# The computer stops responding, and you receive a "Display driver stopped responding and has recovered" error message. You can restart the computer only by pressing the computer's power button.
# The computer stops responding or restarts unexpectedly when you play video games or perform desktop operations.

apache_lives: yea that could be it be some games work 100% also i could play a little with timings and volts for the ram - i will fix this in the end! :) 
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May 26, 2009 7:42:52 AM

wait have you ran prime95 and atitool for a few hours testing before coming to the conclusion your rig is solid?
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Anonymous
May 26, 2009 1:34:44 PM



Had this OC going for nearly a year - yea it's stable 24/7
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May 26, 2009 3:50:19 PM

Update your sound and chipset drivers as well... simply updating the vid card drivers may not be enough. It wouldn't hurt to update the BIOS to the latest revision either... provided you haven't already done so.
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May 28, 2009 1:09:47 PM

Quote:
Vista Ultimate 64x - I've had it with this system!!!

My setup : vista 64x | E8400@3.6 | 4Gb ocz ram | 9800GTX+

I have been trying to run couple of my games and they load and everything seems to work fine.

....wait did I said fine? Approximatley 30min, 1hour max my game halts with a sound loop and only way to restore system is with a cold reboot.

I'm pretty sure it's the all famous, nvlddmkm has stopped responding...aka BSOD. This past weekend I have been trying a shitload of nvidia drivers :
177.66
177.40
177.39
175.19
181.00
181.22
178.24
182.46

Keep in mind I don't update on top of the old one.
Step 1 : remove both nvidia driver and physx, if there is one
Step 2 : boot up in safe-mode
Step 3 : use driversweeper and clean everything, physx,nvidia display drivers
Step 4 : reboot
Step 5 : disable any antivirus and install the new drivers.

Most of these forceware drivers are downloaded from guru3d but always the same issue with some games :
call of duty: world at war
flatout:ultimate challenge
call of duty 4 : modern warfare
gta IV
burnout paradise
fallout 3...the list goes on.

But few games I have never had any issue with and to name a few: Dead Space, Newest Tomb Raider and silent hill : homecoming.

I've just had it with these random lock-ups when I'm trying to enjoy a good game. So therfore trying the 32bit version of vista ultimate.

users with vista 64x os + nVIDIA graphic card tell me....random lock-ups in games, yes / no ? :) 


:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Let's go hijack someone else's thread thats a year old and hope for many informed responses.

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May 28, 2009 1:10:22 PM


Nearly a year old anyway.
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June 28, 2009 3:39:59 AM

apache_lives said:
Exactly, im so over the BS with the bugs and whatever.

Personally, i cant wait for the manufacturers to stop making drivers and software for xp, and force everyone to buy new, when there old POS dies they get forced to vista, come on XP is over 6 years old now people! Thats OBSOLETE!!!!! Would you use a 6 year old PC? (Pentium 4/Athlon XP, 512mb memory, GeForce4/ATi 8500) - there so dammed slow!


You need help my friend. One, I am running that exact system, and, properly tweaked, it runs faster then
a lot of these new discount computers with Vista on them. Why? because Vista waists tons and tons of system resources. Windows 7 uses a quarter less resources and has more features. XP uses less then half the resources of Vista, and, for most personal users, very few progerams take advantage of 64 bit and nothing requires 6 GB RAM. XP runs a billion times faster on the newest hardware. I also have a core i7, GTX280, and 6GB DDR3 RAM. Tripple booted with Windows 7 64bit, Windows XP, and Ubuntu Linux 64bit. Thats in order from slowest to fastest in everything I do on the computer. So why use microsoft at all.

Sorry, went off on more of a tangent then meant to. Windows 7 64bit is extreemly stable, even with 32bit XP drivers. Don't waist your time or money on a copy of Vista right now. If you want a 64bit OS. Install windows 7 64bit RC from Microsoft's web site, and then buy the full release when it comes out in October.
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June 28, 2009 3:51:01 AM

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users with vista 64x os + nVIDIA graphic card tell me....random lock-ups in games, yes / no ? :) 


I have 7 64bit and GTX 280. Yes....
Crysis (but not Crysis Warhead)

Games that do work....
Left 4 Dead
Crysis Warhead
Half Life 2 engine
Quake 3 engine

Games That I can't get working....(in addition to your list)
Quake 4 / Doom 3
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June 30, 2009 8:43:56 PM

I have Nvidia and Vista 64 , I have no lock ups. Whenever you install a new card or anything witht the mobo , always reset your overclock to stock. It prevents allot of problems. the system will have to be rebalacned anyway.
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July 3, 2009 10:41:48 PM

Guys thank you. I honestly wasn't sure about the 64bits OS of Vista. Last time I checked was when they started releasing the Vista version and there was a lot of negative feedback on it (perhaps the same people trying to run Vista with 512mb of RAM :p  ).

Anyways, I'm shopping for a new computer for the inlaws and most of the computers now comes with 64bits OS by default.

Reading the thread really helps :)  !!!!
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