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a b U Graphics card
May 16, 2007 4:08:04 PM

I was wondering if this was some low scores for 3dmark05 for my sons computer. Here are the specs:

3.2ghz P4 Prescott
1gig Corsair Value DDR 3200 RAM
80gig 7200 HD
P4P800SE Asus Mobo
7600gs 512mb Video Card (AGP)

3dmark05 score of 2929 :( 

Is this normal for that kind of setup?

My own computer has:

AMD 64 3200 (socket 939)
2gig XMS DDR 3200 Ram
80gig 7200 HD
Asus MVP Mobo
x1800xt 256mb Video Card

It gets about 9600 score.

Are these seem right? Just wanting to know if I have a crap setup or if this is pretty much in line with the equipment that I have. Thanks in advance for your relpy(s).

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May 16, 2007 4:57:34 PM

Seems low to me. I used to have the same proc and mb but an x800xt and would get around 7k or so i think. could be the vid card, though, i'm not sure how well that particular one is supposed to do.
May 16, 2007 5:13:19 PM

It's a little low. Should be getting somewhere between 3500 and 4000. Really doesn't matter though, synthetics are fairly useless.
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May 16, 2007 5:35:45 PM

little low, but not by much. I would guess that setup would get around 3500 marks. Any virus programs or such running in the backgound?
May 16, 2007 6:01:36 PM

when your son plays games or anything of that sort does he enjoy them? do they run as good as he would like them to ?if so then there is no problem. 3Dmarks are useless, and are just anoying :)  i would probably get a 1000points but i play the games i want the way i want and thats what matters. so dont worry about 3Dmarks :) 
May 16, 2007 8:59:02 PM

Have you updated his drivers? If not try that. If you just did and scores fell. Remove display drivers, install older Driver.

I just updated my dual Asus 7800GTX cards and they went from one card doing 9000 on 3dmark05 to both doing 6000 on 3dmarko5. Installed Nvidia's latest driver (Not Asus Latest) and all is well.
a b U Graphics card
May 16, 2007 10:04:14 PM

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Have you updated his drivers? If not try that. If you just did and scores fell. Remove display drivers, install older Driver.

I just updated my dual Asus 7800GTX cards and they went from one card doing 9000 on 3dmark05 to both doing 6000 on 3dmarko5. Installed Nvidia's latest driver (Not Asus Latest) and all is well.


Yeah latest drivers from nVidia were used. Anti-virus program running in background. I just installed new video card, but didn't check with older setup with 9800pro 128mb video card. I used driver cleaner pro to remove ati video drivers, prior to nvidia install, so don't think that is holding me up (not sure though). I think he might have lingering spam/trojans. I ran adaware program and got several items to come up. I think it removed them, but they seem to come back after getting back onto the internet. I think I'm going to format hard drive soon anyway.
a b U Graphics card
May 16, 2007 10:07:05 PM

Also forgot to add that he's seeing choppy play occasionally during LoTR online. He had this before I upgraded to the newer video card, but doesn't seem to have changed with the newer video card.
a b U Graphics card
May 16, 2007 10:10:08 PM

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It's a little low. Should be getting somewhere between 3500 and 4000. Really doesn't matter though, synthetics are fairly useless.


Is there a better program to use to check for a more realistic result?
May 16, 2007 10:42:41 PM

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I was wondering if this was some low scores for 3dmark05 for my sons computer. Here are the specs:

3.2ghz P4 Prescott
1gig Corsair Value DDR 3200 RAM
80gig 7200 HD
P4P800SE Asus Mobo
7600gs 512mb Video Card (AGP)

3dmark05 score of 2929 :( 

Is this normal for that kind of setup?

i would have expected a 4400-5600 score form experience with different setups. Make sure only around 25 processes are running in task manager, disable unnecessary services, set 3dmark05 priority to high in task manager( well in games if you don get performance then you increase priority so why not with 3dmark05 :)  ). Its not some funky turbo cache type board is it?
heres a benchie - http://www.digital-daily.com/video/chaintech-7600gs_512...

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My own computer has:

AMD 64 3200 (socket 939)
2gig XMS DDR 3200 Ram
80gig 7200 HD
Asus MVP Mobo
x1800xt 256mb Video Card

It gets about 9600 score.

WTF? i can get 9300( maybe an extra 200 in XP havnt tested as Vista fecked my XP which i must fix ) on my setup without changing quality in NVidia CP and my 6400 is running at 2.7GHz
a b U Graphics card
May 16, 2007 10:50:57 PM

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i would have expected a 4400-5600 score form experience with different setups. Make sure only around 25 processes are running in task manager, disable unnecessary services, set 3dmark05 priority to high in task manager( well in games if you don get performance then you increase priority so why not with 3dmark05 :)  ). Its not some funky turbo cache type board is it?
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No no turbo cache video card. Didn't know there was a setting in the task manager to set priority. So I would start up 3dmark05 and go to task manager to set priority? I was thinking that the 2929 score was crap! I know if I had more memory that the score might increase, but with 1 gig in dual channel I thought I would have a higher mark.
May 16, 2007 10:59:45 PM

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i would have expected a 4400-5600 score form experience with different setups. Make sure only around 25 processes are running in task manager, disable unnecessary services, set 3dmark05 priority to high in task manager( well in games if you don get performance then you increase priority so why not with 3dmark05 :)  ). Its not some funky turbo cache type board is it?

No no turbo cache video card. Didn't know there was a setting in the task manager to set priority. So I would start up 3dmark05 and go to task manager to set priority? I was thinking that the 2929 score was crap! I know if I had more memory that the score might increase, but with 1 gig in dual channel I thought I would have a higher mark.
yep you can( its good for video encoding/decoding ), but thats not gonna increase it by 1000 or anything, start 3dmark05, before you run the test open task manager, right click on the process select 'Set Priority' and set it to high

I would think you( your sons PC ) has spyware or processes stealing CPU cycles/causing unnecessary harddrive access, so most importantly check the number of processes in task manager and all the services running, even post screenies if you can and check total memory in use after loading XP before you launch 3DMark05

and im still trying to figure out how your own 3dmark05 scores are so high?????
a b U Graphics card
May 16, 2007 11:07:16 PM

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I would think you have spyware or processes stealing CPU cycles/causing unnecessary harddrive access, so most importantly check the number of processes in task manager and all the services running, even post screenies if you can

and im still trying to figure out how your own 3dmark05 scores are so high?????

Which score? my 2nd computer?
I think that spyware is affecting it, so that is why I'm thinking of formating the HD, since it's been about 1 1/2years since the last format :( 
May 16, 2007 11:12:41 PM

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I would think you have spyware or processes stealing CPU cycles/causing unnecessary harddrive access, so most importantly check the number of processes in task manager and all the services running, even post screenies if you can

and im still trying to figure out how your own 3dmark05 scores are so high?????

Which score? my 2nd computer?
I think that spyware is affecting it, so that is why I'm thinking of formating the HD, since it's been about 1 1/2years since the last format :( 
Sorry,i updated my original post, please reread it, i ment your sons PC, you dont have to format it, check the processes, spybot search and destroy, lavasoft adaware and hijack this will destroy most of the crap on the system if there is any( except trojans which can replace themselves )
a b U Graphics card
May 16, 2007 11:37:13 PM

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Anti-virus program running in background.

Turn it off during 3DMark tests
May 16, 2007 11:38:06 PM

I use System Mech 7pro and like it alot. You can try it for 30 days free here WWW.IOLO.COM.

My 800XT AIW AGP with E4300@2.4GHZ scores 6000 in 3dmarko5. Copies movies much faster than my Opteron 185.

I'm not to hip on 7600.

Good luck
May 16, 2007 11:45:05 PM

also remove any old nvidia driver/drivers as per the installation guide on http://www.tweakguides.com then reinstall the latest drivers, download and install the latest dx9 drivers from the M$ site also

Oh and as was said switch of everything that will use CPU like anti virus, firewalls etc( reenable them afterwards )
May 17, 2007 12:21:56 AM

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I use System Mech 7pro and like it alot. You can try it for 30 days free here WWW.IOLO.COM.

My 800XT AIW AGP with E4300@2.4GHZ scores 6000 in 3dmarko5. Copies movies much faster than my Opteron 185.

I'm not to hip on 7600.

Good luck

your x800xt is probably as good if not better than the 7600gs except it lacks shader model 3, your CPU is also several generations better
Incidentally i got 6600 in 3dmark05 with a 4200+( @2.5GHz ) and a highly OC'd x850pro, 6800 if i tweaked the quality to performance
May 17, 2007 12:29:04 AM

His X800XT is quite a bit better than a 7600GS, and is more on par with the 7600GT. Sm3.0 is the only advantage the 7600GS has over it, and it's not even powerful enough to fully utilize it. Anything less than a 7600GT or X1650XT isn't worth buying just for sm3.0.
May 17, 2007 12:40:53 AM

Yikes that is pretty low... my system at stock speeds is around 5XXX points, but as you can see with my overclock... my 3700+ / x800xl gets just a hair under 7000 points.

I understand that people say 3DMARK scores don't matter... but perhaps they can be, and perhaps in this case are, an indication of a hardware/software issue.

Could always format, flash bios, make sure every driver is installed with its own seperate restart afterwards and install 3DMARK05 only, and do a new test.

Then overclock that mother to the moon and test her again.

my 2 cents.
May 17, 2007 12:48:48 AM

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Yikes that is pretty low... my system at stock speeds is around 5XXX points, but as you can see with my overclock... my 3700+ / x800xl gets just a hair under 7000 points.

I understand that people say 3DMARK scores don't matter... but perhaps they can be, and perhaps in this case are, an indication of a hardware/software issue.

Could always format, flash bios, make sure every driver is installed with its own seperate restart afterwards and install 3DMARK05 only, and do a new test.

Then overclock that mother to the moon and test her again.

my 2 cents.

great OC dude, never tried any volt mods on my x850 pro but i got the 16 pipelines open and it was obviously an XT that some tests because core wouldnt go over 513 stable, mem would go to around 603
a b U Graphics card
May 17, 2007 1:44:43 AM

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I use System Mech 7pro and like it alot. You can try it for 30 days free here WWW.IOLO.COM.

My 800XT AIW AGP with E4300@2.4GHZ scores 6000 in 3dmarko5. Copies movies much faster than my Opteron 185.

I'm not to hip on 7600.

Good luck


I only could afford a 7600gs with my budget:(  Would've needed to get a better PSU to get a better video card :( , so that was my only option at the time (was for a birthday present). I'll try the System Mech 7pro and re-run with no antivirus program and see if that helps things out. I have adaware and search and destroy on the system already, so that is covered for now. I run virus scans about 1-2 times a week, but with a teenager it's hard to get computer time from the system.
May 17, 2007 2:02:16 AM

Be careful adding to many of the same type programs. I would uninstall the others prior to installing Sys Mech 7Pro. Just to be safe.

Still a very nice system for anyone. If you you are using a 17" lcd then your fine.
a b U Graphics card
May 17, 2007 2:47:52 AM

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Be careful adding to many of the same type programs. I would uninstall the others prior to installing Sys Mech 7Pro. Just to be safe.

Still a very nice system for anyone. If you you are using a 17" lcd then your fine.


Just using a 17" CRT on that system. The 2nd system I'm using a 19" WS LCD.
May 17, 2007 2:51:55 AM

and your installed progs/current processes status is? theres no point us bluffing on might be wrong you tell us whats going on and we'll see if its right or not
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