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Anonymous
January 6, 2005 6:16:33 AM

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Scenario
I am an AT&T customer without a contract and currently have a TDMA Phone
I want to move to Cingular and upgrade to GSM and to get a new phone
*** I moved to a neighboring state so my phone has a different area code
than my billing address
I want to keep this phone number as everyone knows this number and I don't
wish to change it for a lot of reasons.

Question
Best Buy has a good deal on the Motorola v551 and only requires a 1 year
contract so I prefer to upgrade through them. Do I need to go into a Best
Buy in the original state? Will they give me a hard time when they see my
billing address?

If I purchase my plan through Best Buy, can I call Cingular directly after
that to make changes to my account or do I have to go through Best Buy?

Do I have to just upgrade through Cingular online to avoid any hassle? The
reason I didn't want to do that is that you are forced into a 2 year plan if
you order online. The phone is like a 100.00 more if you call customer
service and want a 1 year plan.

Bottom Line
I want a 1 year plan as I am afraid to get locked into a 2 year contract.
I don't want to pay a fortune for the Motorola phone.
I want to keep my existing phone number.

Your thoughts and/or suggestions are appreciated.
Anonymous
January 6, 2005 6:16:34 AM

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"Compulady" <compulady@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:l42Dd.1715$%e1.1459@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Scenario
> I am an AT&T customer without a contract and currently have a TDMA Phone
> I want to move to Cingular and upgrade to GSM and to get a new phone
> *** I moved to a neighboring state so my phone has a different area code
> than my billing address
> I want to keep this phone number as everyone knows this number and I don't
> wish to change it for a lot of reasons.


They won't let you keep the number.


>
> Question
> Best Buy has a good deal on the Motorola v551 and only requires a 1 year
> contract so I prefer to upgrade through them. Do I need to go into a Best
> Buy in the original state? Will they give me a hard time when they see my
> billing address?


Even if you go to the state and city where the number originated they will
not let you keep the number. You must make a majority of your calls from
within that specified "local" calling area to keep your number een if you
are on a national plan.


>
> If I purchase my plan through Best Buy, can I call Cingular directly after
> that to make changes to my account or do I have to go through Best Buy?


Sorry. It won't make a difference.


>
> Do I have to just upgrade through Cingular online to avoid any hassle?
The
> reason I didn't want to do that is that you are forced into a 2 year plan
if
> you order online. The phone is like a 100.00 more if you call customer
> service and want a 1 year plan.
>
> Bottom Line
> I want a 1 year plan as I am afraid to get locked into a 2 year contract.
> I don't want to pay a fortune for the Motorola phone.
> I want to keep my existing phone number.
>
> Your thoughts and/or suggestions are appreciated.

No matter how you slice it you will not be able to keep your present number
if you reside and make the majority of your calls from a different area
code/region/state.

HTH

--
SS
Anonymous
January 6, 2005 7:40:44 AM

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In <l42Dd.1715$%e1.1459@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> on Thu, 06 Jan 2005
03:16:33 GMT, "Compulady" <compulady@softhome.net> wrote:

>Scenario
>I am an AT&T customer without a contract and currently have a TDMA Phone
>I want to move to Cingular and upgrade to GSM and to get a new phone
>*** I moved to a neighboring state so my phone has a different area code
>than my billing address
>I want to keep this phone number as everyone knows this number and I don't
>wish to change it for a lot of reasons.

Not possible.

>Question
>Best Buy has a good deal on the Motorola v551 and only requires a 1 year
>contract so I prefer to upgrade through them.

That deal only applies to new subscribers, and you're not a new subscriber --
Cingular already "owns" you.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
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Anonymous
January 6, 2005 10:17:01 PM

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> Question
> Best Buy has a good deal on the Motorola v551 and only requires a 1 year
> contract so I prefer to upgrade through them. Do I need to go into a Best
> Buy in the original state?
--> This is the best plan given that you want to keep your number.

Will they give me a hard time when they see my
> billing address?
--> Maybe. You might give them an address in your old state, then
sign up for online payment. At that point who cares what your billing
address is?
>
> If I purchase my plan through Best Buy, can I call Cingular directly after
> that to make changes to my account or do I have to go through Best Buy?

--> If you dial 611, Cingular customer service will answer the phone.
(No need for best buy)

> Do I have to just upgrade through Cingular online to avoid any hassle?
The
> reason I didn't want to do that is that you are forced into a 2 year plan
> if
> you order online. The phone is like a 100.00 more if you call customer
> service and want a 1 year plan.
I'd do the upgrade in the state where you want the local number, then carry
the phone to where you are now. Chances are Cingular will never notice or
care unless most of your network use is roaming. i.e. I assume you are not
roaming at your new location.

Finally, if Cingular won't do all this for you, you might see if Verizon
will port
your number for you the way you like (assuming they are an option).

It is likely you'll have to pay an activation fee, and buy a phone either
way.

-Dan
Anonymous
January 7, 2005 2:37:02 AM

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In article <gj3Dd.253$m31.2707@typhoon.sonic.net>,
John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >*** I moved to a neighboring state so my phone has a different area code
> >than my billing address
> >I want to keep this phone number as everyone knows this number and I don't
> >wish to change it for a lot of reasons.
>
> Not possible.

There goes John with his absolutes.

There are so many ways to achieve this, but John will deny that. He has
spoken, and nothing he says is a mistake, therefore he can never
acknowledge that he made a mistake here.
Anonymous
January 7, 2005 9:54:36 AM

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In <elmop-9FED10.23370206012005@text.usenetserver.com> on Thu, 06 Jan 2005
23:37:02 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <gj3Dd.253$m31.2707@typhoon.sonic.net>,
> John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> >*** I moved to a neighboring state so my phone has a different area code
>> >than my billing address
>> >I want to keep this phone number as everyone knows this number and I don't
>> >wish to change it for a lot of reasons.
>>
>> Not possible.
>
>There goes John with his absolutes.
>
>There are so many ways to achieve this, ...

But you don't list any, so we know it's just more hot air.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
January 7, 2005 11:45:29 AM

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On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 23:37:02 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <gj3Dd.253$m31.2707@typhoon.sonic.net>,
> John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> >*** I moved to a neighboring state so my phone has a different area code
>> >than my billing address
>> >I want to keep this phone number as everyone knows this number and I don't
>> >wish to change it for a lot of reasons.
>>
>> Not possible.
>
>There goes John with his absolutes.
>
>There are so many ways to achieve this, but John will deny that. He has
>spoken, and nothing he says is a mistake, therefore he can never
>acknowledge that he made a mistake here.

Something interesting I saw yesterday. I received a flyer with my new
Cingular phone that described a service called AT&T CallVantage. It
replaces your traditional phone. One of the features is, "Keep your
current phone number or pick an area code of your choice." Not sure
it has anything to do with what we are discussing here, but
interesting that you can pick any area code.
Anonymous
January 7, 2005 11:50:19 AM

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"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
news:gj3Dd.253$m31.2707@typhoon.sonic.net...
SNIP

>>Scenario
>>I am an AT&T customer without a contract and currently have a TDMA Phone
>>I want to move to Cingular and upgrade to GSM and to get a new phone
>>*** I moved to a neighboring state so my phone has a different area code
>>than my billing address
>>I want to keep this phone number as everyone knows this number and I don't
>>wish to change it for a lot of reasons.
>
> Not possible.
>

Well that would depend actually on where he moved to. For example if he
lived in Portland Orgeon and moved to Vancouver Washington which is
essentially across the river from Portland he could do this.

>>Question
>>Best Buy has a good deal on the Motorola v551 and only requires a 1 year
>>contract so I prefer to upgrade through them.
>
> That deal only applies to new subscribers, and you're not a new
> subscriber --
> Cingular already "owns" you.
>
Again it depends on the deal he is talking about. If he's talking about the
$50 rebate on the V551 he can get that even though he is only migrating from
ATT to Cingular. I know this for a fact because I did this myself.

His best course of action, IMHO, is to drop the old account and number and
walk into Best Buy as a new customer in a new area and he will probably get
the best deal on the phone. Plus the people that need to call him in his new
location will not like having to pay long distance if they have to dial his
old out of state number.

Cheers
TC
Anonymous
January 7, 2005 3:51:57 PM

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<snip>
> >> >*** I moved to a neighboring state so my phone has a different area
code
> >> >than my billing address
> >> >I want to keep this phone number as everyone knows this number and I
don't
> >> >wish to change it for a lot of reasons.
> >>
> >> Not possible.
> >
<snip>
> Something interesting I saw yesterday. I received a flyer with my new
> Cingular phone that described a service called AT&T CallVantage. It
> replaces your traditional phone. One of the features is, "Keep your
> current phone number or pick an area code of your choice." Not sure
> it has anything to do with what we are discussing here, but
> interesting that you can pick any area code.
These VOIP services will except a portable number but they don't have local
numbers everywhere.
Net2phone Voiceline has the most local numbers and would be a good start.
Others are Broadvoice and Vonage or Vonage canada. The cable compines like
charter also offer this service. It requires a broadband connection so would
not be a good replacement for a cell phone. But if you want to keep the
number you could transfer calls from your VOIP service to your cell phone
and this would not require a internet connection.
January 7, 2005 7:19:45 PM

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In article <cdbtt0t6li2ncp67b1rteo07aoi3q9mg5d@4ax.com>, Dick wrote:
>
> Something interesting I saw yesterday. I received a flyer with my new
> Cingular phone that described a service called AT&T CallVantage. It
> replaces your traditional phone. One of the features is, "Keep your
> current phone number or pick an area code of your choice." Not sure
> it has anything to do with what we are discussing here, but
> interesting that you can pick any area code.

That's an ATT product, not ATT wireless. You got that with a cingular
phone?
January 7, 2005 7:19:46 PM

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On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 16:19:45 GMT, steve <reply@news.group> wrote:

>In article <cdbtt0t6li2ncp67b1rteo07aoi3q9mg5d@4ax.com>, Dick wrote:
>>
>> Something interesting I saw yesterday. I received a flyer with my new
>> Cingular phone that described a service called AT&T CallVantage. It
>> replaces your traditional phone. One of the features is, "Keep your
>> current phone number or pick an area code of your choice." Not sure
>> it has anything to do with what we are discussing here, but
>> interesting that you can pick any area code.
>
>That's an ATT product, not ATT wireless. You got that with a cingular
>phone?

Well, it wasn't actually inside the phone box. It was with the papers
included with the shipment from Amazon.com which is an authorized
Cingular dealer.
Anonymous
January 7, 2005 10:09:17 PM

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In <f3sDd.27$Ii4.3@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> on Fri, 07 Jan 2005
08:50:19 GMT, "Tony Clark" <curiousgeorge1964@hotmail.com> wrote:

>His best course of action, IMHO, is to drop the old account and number and
>walk into Best Buy as a new customer in a new area and he will probably get
>the best deal on the phone. Plus the people that need to call him in his new
>location will not like having to pay long distance if they have to dial his
>old out of state number.

He'd have to wait 90 days after dropping the old account to do that.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
Anonymous
January 8, 2005 5:52:25 AM

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>>*** I moved to a neighboring state so my phone has a different area code
>>than my billing address
>>I want to keep this phone number as everyone knows this number and I don't
>>wish to change it for a lot of reasons.
>
>
> Not possible.

I lived in a state where neither Cingular nor AT&T Wireless provided
service for over a year. Cingular was more than happy to have me as a
customer while I lived there. I had no problems, and Cingular did not
terminate my service due to excessive roaming or extended periods of
time away from a Cingular network. In my user agreement though,
Cingular had the option of terminating my service after 90 days where
more than 50 % (the actual number was 100%) of my plan usage was on
non-Cingular owned systems. However, Cingular did not.

TH
!