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May 18, 2007 2:45:10 AM

Hi

I have a Radeon 9250 and its time to upgrade does anyone know what the best graphics card is for a PCI only slot.

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May 18, 2007 3:07:45 AM

IMO you've got it. The money you'd spend to get somthing better would be better spent on beer.
May 18, 2007 3:12:27 AM

Or women and beer.
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May 18, 2007 3:32:48 AM

yeah youve pretty much come to the end of the road for PCI cards.

Though I do think the beer suggestion is entirely valid.
May 18, 2007 3:37:24 AM

:D  I need a graphics card that can run Rainbow Six: Vegas and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and is PCI and my card doesnt seam to want to work with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. The THQ videos load and then it goes black and plays the music. I havn't tried Rainbow Six: Vegas im debating whether or not i should buy it.

The weird part with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is that everything checked out OK in the preinstall Hardware check.
May 18, 2007 3:43:45 AM

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:D  I need a graphics card that can run Rainbow Six: Vegas and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and is PCI and my card doesnt seam to want to work with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. The THQ videos load and then it goes black and plays the music. I havn't tried Rainbow Six: Vegas im debating whether or not i should buy it.

The weird part with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is that everything checked out OK in the preinstall Hardware check.


This is a joke right? LOL! Get a Tseng Labs or a Trident 1000. They rocked back in 1989 (vesa local bus)
May 18, 2007 4:00:20 AM

You don't think the Trident would get bottlenecked by his CPU?
May 18, 2007 4:06:25 AM

Quote:
:D  I need a graphics card that can run Rainbow Six: Vegas and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and is PCI and my card doesnt seam to want to work with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. The THQ videos load and then it goes black and plays the music. I havn't tried Rainbow Six: Vegas im debating whether or not i should buy it.

The weird part with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is that everything checked out OK in the preinstall Hardware check.


This is a joke right? LOL! Get a Tseng Labs or a Trident 1000. They rocked back in 1989 (vesa local bus)

:lol: 
a c 355 U Graphics card
May 18, 2007 4:29:54 AM

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:D  I need a graphics card that can run Rainbow Six: Vegas and S.T.A.L.K.E.R.


:lol:  :lol:  :lol: 


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and is PCI and my card doesnt seam to want to work with S.T.A.L.K.E.R.


:lol:  :lol:  :lol: 

Both games requires a GPU capable of supporting DirectX 9c.

The Radeon 9250 only supports DirectX 8.1.

A Pentium 4 3.0GHz (or similar CPU) is recommended for both games.

You need to buy an entirely new system to play those games.
May 18, 2007 4:42:57 AM

nVidia GeForce 6200pci=$92

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ati Radeon x1300pci=$115

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Comparison
http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=437&card2...

Those are the highest performing pci cards out there and all most definitely the last new models to be introduced for the pci interface.
Id go for the x1300 BUT you may be able to unlock the 6200's disabled pipelines thus making it into an 6600. I have a 6600GT and it runs S.T.A.L.K.E.R on medium settings at 1024x768 quite well.

To above posters dont make fun of his statements when there are pci video cards available that can play these games decently on low settings.
May 18, 2007 5:11:48 AM

You could get a Geforce 5700 PCI. Its not very good but I would think it would be faster than your 9250.
May 18, 2007 5:12:56 AM

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:D  I need a graphics card that can run Rainbow Six: Vegas and S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
LOL. Good luck with that...
May 18, 2007 6:07:30 AM

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:D  I need a graphics card that can run Rainbow Six: Vegas and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and is PCI and my card doesnt seam to want to work with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. The THQ videos load and then it goes black and plays the music. I havn't tried Rainbow Six: Vegas im debating whether or not i should buy it.

The weird part with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is that everything checked out OK in the preinstall Hardware check.


Just for the record:

PCI-E = Rainbow Six: Vegas and Stalker
AGP = Doom 3 and Half-Life 2
PCI = ummm.... StarCraft?
a c 355 U Graphics card
May 18, 2007 6:10:28 AM



Wow. I'm amazed someone adapted those GPUs for a PCI card. But they are about half the cost of building a newer PC using decent parts:

Athlon X2 3600+ = $69

Foxconn MCP61VM2MA-RS2H Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX = $60 - $15 Mail-In Rebate = $45

WINTEC AMPO 1GB (2 x 512MB) DDR2 800 = $45

FSP Group (Fortron Source) AX400-PN 400w power supply = $44

Tack on about $12 for shipping. That works out to about $218.

The motherboard comes with a built in GeForce 6100. It'll smack the 9250 silly, but still not be good enough for Rainbow Six: Vegas and S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

The PSU is necessary since power specs for modern PC parts has changed since the ancient days of the PCI video card.
May 18, 2007 6:13:16 AM

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The motherboard comes with a built in GeForce 6100. It'll smack the 9250 silly, but still not be good enough for Rainbow Six: Vegas and S.T.A.L.K.E.R.


Actually, it won't... I had an AthlonXP 2000+ w/ an AGP 9250, now I have an X2 3800+ w/ a GeForce6100, and I can tell you that the 9250 was faster (it played Halo at medium, now I can only play at low).
a c 355 U Graphics card
May 18, 2007 6:19:28 AM

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Actually, it won't... I had an AthlonXP 2000+ w/ an AGP 9250, now I have an X2 3800+ w/ a GeForce6100, and I can tell you that the 9250 was faster (it played Halo at medium, now I can only play at low).


Oh well. Can't be right all the time.
May 18, 2007 6:38:05 AM

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You don't think the Trident would get bottlenecked by his CPU?


Just barely! hehe
May 18, 2007 7:18:09 AM

aye mate, i have your same problem. best pci graphics card i could find when i needed to get one to replace my integrated graphics was a fx5500 from newegg. Plays almost everything, definitely not smoothly but itll play. Some games work amazing on it, e.g. Call of Duty 2 looks absolutely beautiful. But if your looking for the BEST pci card this seems to take the cake, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161074
May 18, 2007 7:20:45 AM

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The motherboard comes with a built in GeForce 6100. It'll smack the 9250 silly, but still not be good enough for Rainbow Six: Vegas and S.T.A.L.K.E.R.


Actually, it won't... I had an AthlonXP 2000+ w/ an AGP 9250, now I have an X2 3800+ w/ a GeForce6100, and I can tell you that the 9250 was faster (it played Halo at medium, now I can only play at low).

What was your old CPU? I'm sure there's an explanation for this...the 6100 is still built into motherboards as integrated yet today.
May 18, 2007 7:50:55 AM

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aye mate, i have your same problem. best pci graphics card i could find when i needed to get one to replace my integrated graphics was a fx5500 from newegg. Plays almost everything, definitely not smoothly but itll play. Some games work amazing on it, e.g. Call of Duty 2 looks absolutely beautiful. But if your looking for the BEST pci card this seems to take the cake, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161074


nice find dewd

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

i take my previous post back go with this its the same as above but it has a 128bit memory bus not a 64bit one.
May 18, 2007 12:18:35 PM

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Just for the record:

PCI-E = Rainbow Six: Vegas and Stalker
AGP = Doom 3 and Half-Life 2
PCI = ummm.... StarCraft?


Thats funny.My 9250 seems to be able to play Hl2 and Cs:S on Med-high setting at 1024x768 just fine.
May 18, 2007 2:45:19 PM

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aye mate, i have your same problem. best pci graphics card i could find when i needed to get one to replace my integrated graphics was a fx5500 from newegg. Plays almost everything, definitely not smoothly but itll play. Some games work amazing on it, e.g. Call of Duty 2 looks absolutely beautiful. But if your looking for the BEST pci card this seems to take the cake, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161074


nice find dewd

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

i take my previous post back go with this its the same as above but it has a 128bit memory bus not a 64bit one.


Yeah that may be so, but it is gddr2, which is a big step up.
And i agree with Atiwolf, PCI can play advanced games too, just not well. My Fx5500 could play age of empires 3 with some eye candy, gta SA with all the eye candy, halo with all the eye candy a lot of games at decent resolutions too. PCI sucks, but not that much :wink:
May 18, 2007 2:48:11 PM

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The motherboard comes with a built in GeForce 6100. It'll smack the 9250 silly, but still not be good enough for Rainbow Six: Vegas and S.T.A.L.K.E.R.


Actually, it won't... I had an AthlonXP 2000+ w/ an AGP 9250, now I have an X2 3800+ w/ a GeForce6100, and I can tell you that the 9250 was faster (it played Halo at medium, now I can only play at low).

What was your old CPU? I'm sure there's an explanation for this...the 6100 is still built into motherboards as integrated yet today.
Ummm... it's in the post, I had an AthlonXP 2000+, now I have an Athlon64 X2 3800+.

I think the biggest bottleneck on the 6100 is that it shares system RAM.
May 18, 2007 2:52:05 PM

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Just for the record:

PCI-E = Rainbow Six: Vegas and Stalker
AGP = Doom 3 and Half-Life 2
PCI = ummm.... StarCraft?


Thats funny.My 9250 seems to be able to play Hl2 and Cs:S on Med-high setting at 1024x768 just fine.

Well, those were just rough guidelines where most cards fall into... there are always exceptions such as PCI X1300, which will play Doom 3 and HL2 nicely, and AGP X1950Pro's, which can handle top games (maybe not at full, though). I was talking more about mainstream. I think the last PCI graphics card to be released in the mainstream was the Riva TNT.
May 18, 2007 3:33:15 PM

know where i can drivers fot the tnt card. i put one in my gf's computer but nvidia dosent support the drivers anymore.
a c 355 U Graphics card
May 21, 2007 11:15:32 PM

Well it seems the X1550 is faster so you might as well go for that. The overall rating of only 3 stars is probably due to price / performance ratio.
May 22, 2007 4:58:12 AM

There is Aopen GF6600 256MB for PCI slot. It's hard to find it, but it exists :D 
If you want to play S.T.A.L.K.E.R. X1550 should be enough, but buy 128bit version!
May 22, 2007 2:44:38 PM

either that compairson is off or newegg is off because i found this x1300 (N82E16814129062)
with the same coreclock but a higher memory clock than the x1550 (N82E16814103031). i guess it dosent matter anyway because the x1300 cost more and has an older chip. i looked for the 6600 but i think the other person is mistaken because ive only found the card with a pci-e interface. im looking to get a pci card too and was almost about to get this card (N82E16814161074) but saw that it had a 64bit memory interface. after looking for about 2weeks now im going to get the x1550.
May 22, 2007 3:16:35 PM

If anyone might want an older card to be used with an old P3 or something, I have a Jaton Video-88PCI-32Plus card that works perfectly.

Here's a picture of the box and a bit of info. My old box is still in great shape too, barely worn. I can't seem to find a picture of my exact card, but it's got the Riva TNT-2 accelator and 32mb's of SDRam rather than the 16. This card WILL work with Windows XP, but it's got analog out only. Great for home internet setup, and some light old school gaming.

http://www.shopping.com/xPF-Jaton-Video-88PCI

Here's the driver page.
http://db.jaton.com/DownloadSelect.aspx?P_ID=82088K-P32...

I'd let this card go for about $35 with shipping already included in that price.

The only two listings for it that I found are here.
http://www.google.com/products?q=Jaton+Video+88PCI%2B32

It's got everything included in the box that came with it originally. The QuickStart guide and Intervideo/Driver CD w/ serial number on the sleeve. Everything is in great shape.
May 31, 2007 3:12:18 PM

Just letting you guys know i purchased the X1550 and I'm very pleased with it... thanks a bunch
May 31, 2007 4:22:01 PM

Dang i didn't get to you in time.


They make a 7800oc in the PCI configuration (not pci-e).
Its 500 bucks, but hay, its the best.
June 1, 2007 1:15:55 AM

500 bucks? lol... wouldnt have paid that much for a card anyway, but thanks.
January 1, 2009 12:25:15 PM

I run a system that can't use PCI express either, nor do I have the money at this point to buy the system that I want. So I went about upgrading this comp to its limit. With a few hundred dollars I got my memory up to 2 gigs, a P4 processor 2.8 Ghz and a HIS Radeon x1550. It can run Doom 3 just fine on medium setting getting decent work on high. And I have it playing Crysis with everything turned down.

Here is the link to the card:



It is cheap, and for now, will tide you over till you can buy a new rig. If it can handle Crysis then it should be able to help you out. Just don't expect it to blow you away with awesome graphics as you will need to turn off most fancy features and keep everything turned on low.

Although it is time for us to both go out and get new rigs :( 
December 9, 2009 11:53:30 PM

ive seen both an Nvidia Geforce 9500 GT and an Ati Radeon 4350 that are pci bus, and they could blow all of those out of the water, both for about 80 bucks
January 1, 2010 1:54:34 PM

sectorzam said:
ive seen both an Nvidia Geforce 9500 GT and an Ati Radeon 4350 that are pci bus, and they could blow all of those out of the water, both for about 80 bucks


thx. I have an older HP system restricted to the PCI bus. I'm trying to move from a 4:3 monitor to a newer wide screen and the nVIDIA GeForce 5200 doesn't seem to be able to support the WS display. Just work, no video or games except what's on the web.

I'll check these cards, but does anyone have a recommendation for a PCI graphics card that will run a 23" wide screen monitor? [HP 3 gHz P4 1gb RAM]. Suggestions for a monitor?
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