Right, so my computer is on order, should be ariving today, but i looked on the website i bought Vista Home Prem - Retail off and it says that 64bit version isnt on the disk, aparently you need to contact microsoft about it and they will send it to you for the cost of the shipping. Obviously im getting the OS in the same delivery as the computer parts, and i dont really want to wait a couple of days for them to send me the 64bit version of the OS. Is there a download link they will give me that will be exactly the same as the disk, or can i install a trial version of Vista and then put in the key when i install (dont know if you can do this)
There might be some laws about who can distribute such copies. Another thing is viruses. When downloading a copy from an unknown source, you can never know what more you get besides the software you intend to download
I have never got a virus buit into p2p software. but, some of the antipiracy measures I see built into honestly purchased software counts a virus in my book.
lately its been buy some software, it doesn't work, or I don't like dealing with constant disk swapping (whas the point of a laptop if you have to drag 10 disks with you), so then I download a crack, or in some cases the whole thing
P2P is also good for installing when the original media is damaged, or in a few cases, you don't have the correct drive. I also like listening to the old time radio shows, and they often come with the original adds intact so I imagine thats completly leagal (now I know all about a South Afican laundy detergant "Cold Water Omo", colored athricite "Blue Coal" and the latest all weather tire of 1938)
its a person thing and ileagal too, but I don't mid screwing companies who have screwed me before.
back to the original questions.
if the version of vista you bought allows both 32 and 64, (not all do anymore) it uses the same key for both.
you can install without a key, and register it later.
Message edited by Groo on 08-31-2008 at 07:08:15 PM
its a person thing and ileagal too, but I don't mid screwing companies who have screwed me before.
It's this attitude that increases software costs and necessitates copy protection schemes. I agree that the industry can sometimes inflate the damage done by piracy... but when they see people like you saying "Screw you!"... they are only more likely to come up with ever more complex protection schemes to stop the downloading. All this does is increase the cost to produce the software and, of course, the increased cost gets passed on to the honest consumer.
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When I pay top dollar for a game, only to end up with a beta that is unplayable; that is THEFT! (customer suport is of no use either because they've usualy got hundreds if not thousands of other pissed off customers and they are swamped) when for example, an expansion for that game comes out that with the help of years of patches fixes (patches don't fix an unfinished plot though) some of the problems, I sleep fine at night stealing it. This example is NWN2.
Another big dollar Atari screw job was Witcher that wouldn't run on Vista 64 with my nViadia 7900gs without constant crashes. It wouldn't even start on my XP dual boot because I had a virtual drive installed, It said I needed to install the original disk because it just assumed I was running pirated software. A new ATI card eventual made it usable, but I could have got a free version of the game with that same ATI card if I had wanted.
I am not justifing stealing everything under the sun because I once bought an overhyped game.
If I could just return the games the DON'T WORK, I would; but customers don't have that option.
I've been burned so many times, I done buying new releases. but, that isn't always enough either. Civization3 gold editioin is the most recent failure function. maybe its just the XP vs. Vista thing, but it wouldn't even recognise that I had original disc in the drive. after a no-CD crack, something popped up about it being a trial download version. I'm in the process of setting up an older machine, so I'll try it then, but I have the fealing that once more I am screwed and without any recourse to honestly find any justice.
I have yet to come across a single game that I wasn't able to run. Some took more effort than others, but in the end I always managed to get it going... whether through patches or driver updates. People expect software to run perfectly out of the box every time... and in an ideal world, it would. However, this is not a perfect world and the fact that games run on as many systems as they do is a miracle. It's hard to program software that will run perfectly on infinite hardware variations.
I don't know the system requirements of Witcher... so I can't render a guess as to why it didn't work for you. Civ 3 Gold I haven't tried either... so I can't be much help there. Again, though, I didn't meet a game I couldn't get working either through patches or driver updates. Take from that what you will. C & C 3 didn't work right out of the box under Vista 64, but with the latest patch, it does.
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