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jvc08   09-14-2008 at 02:53:45 PM

i was having major problems with vista 64bit, i couldn't update it, and it was VERY unstable. and this is what happen, after removing 4gb, i can now update vista 64bit and it is very stable, (did i say, it's running fast). could this be one of the reasons why some people are having difficulty with vista 64bit.

it WORKS!! :hello: :lol: :)

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notherdude   09-14-2008 at 08:03:49 PM
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lot of us using 8 gig and no problems

when you fill all four ram slots on a motherboard you often have to adjust down the ram bus speed and/or adjust the timings up - or even tweak the voltage.

Filling all 4 slots is a somewhat new trend, now that ram is cheap, mobos often have a hard time powering and coordinating four sticks. There is nothing about vista itself that balks at 8 gig so I would check out the mobo - read the manual and see if it has special instructions for 4 slots


Message edited by notherdude on 09-14-2008 at 08:06:46 PM
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notherdude u have an old hand. Having an old hand doesnt make sence. Cuz its old. get a new one.. seems like ur hand doesnt understand what it is writing. So placve it in ur rig instead of vista human orgnoids will amke more sense
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dblake   09-14-2008 at 08:10:50 PM
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I just got mine going after having problems with updates & driver installs (see post on vista file corruption).

Problem was wrong timings & voltages, the default was 5-5-5-18, shud be 4-4-4-12, volts were 1.8, shud be 2.0.

lesson learned, pay attention to the reccomended timings/volts.

Kudos to Mushkin for excellent ram & tech support.

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jvc08   09-15-2008 at 06:20:23 AM
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just a quick here guys.
the lower the timings the worse it is? i thought it was the opposite??

thanks for replying.


Message edited by jvc08 on 09-15-2008 at 06:23:09 AM
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notherdude   09-15-2008 at 02:00:41 PM
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lower timings = faster performance

for example: going from 4 4 4 12 to 5 5 5 15 will give a very small performance hit but it will sometimes increase stability

not sure what happened with dblake, I'm guessing it was the voltage bump that got him stable. If his ram is rated to run at faster timings then there was no reason not to set it at rated speed so long as that is stable

maybe there are times when lowering timings can actually improve stability? Not sure, never heard of it but maybe

as a separate issue, lowering the bus speed of the ram is another stability tweak often used when stability is in question when all 4 slots are filled

------------------------------ tehhardpro wrote :


notherdude u have an old hand. Having an old hand doesnt make sence. Cuz its old. get a new one.. seems like ur hand doesnt understand what it is writing. So placve it in ur rig instead of vista human orgnoids will amke more sense
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Scotteq   09-15-2008 at 03:47:32 PM
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OP - Electrically, 4 DIMMS are harder for your motherboard/memory controller to drive.

Manually set timings, manually set voltages to the upper end of the maker's recommended specs, and ensure that tREF (Refresh to Activate Delay) is set to 54 or greater.


Regarding timings: The numbers refer to the number of clock cycles it takes to complete a given function. So smaller is better/faster, just so long as the computer is stable. So at the same clock speed, 4-4-4-12 is 'faster' than 5-5-5-15.

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