Bottlenecked?

irrespective of being bottlenecked that card should not fall in FPS to those levels. okay, so you may not get 70 fps in a game and just 60 because of your processor, but it wont fall to 16..

there is definitely something wrong.

do a format and let us know. then we can see what we can do from there.

pretty much..

also before that, you may wanna try defragmenting you drive.

Yeah definitely not a bottleneck, reinstall Windows and try again.

says that atitool isnt compatible with the x1950 PRO only hehe just my luck.

found something odd in the bios that my cpus multiplier was set to 100x15 instead of 200x15 (OMG?), if thats been the problem all along then someone needs to hit me with the wackaday hammer

installing far cry now and ill report back see if any fps drop happens this time.

Thanks for the info

been on far cry for almost an hour and its on full blast no fps drop at all, now this could be sorted now, but what happened before i was playing all day then the next day was full of problems, really does seem like ive hit the jackpot now though.

Ill grab that modded driver u talking about if anything crops up again, but im confused that my CPU clock is supposed to be 200 x 15 = 3.0ghz but was on 100 x 15 thought that was strange because i have no reason to underclock my cpu, but im not sure how long its been at that setting so i have little to compare it to.

cheers all ill post if anything else happens

i don't think speedstep was introduced back then. it may be an idea to look at this power options but AFAIK, speedstep first got introduced back in the pentium m's did it not when people actually cared about battery power.

desktop users have only recently started bleating about power consumption quite recently. i may be wrong though.

if you can't guess i really hate how people go on about heat and power being a concern. people were right to go on about it where p4's were and are concerned because for all the heat and power they generated they didn't put out great performance but IMO as long as it performs who cares about heat and power draw. annoys me that companies may limit performance to stay within certain heat and noise parameters to satisfy certain aspects of the market.

sorry to derail thread.

Ok i think im going insane now i still get FPS drops to as bad as 11FPS from about 40 or so in outside areas, thought it had gone but after an hour or so of playing it came back.

I have run out of ideas now because i bought a new PSU, reinstalled windows, tried new drivers and got rid of unwanted ones, tried those omega drivers with ati tray tools.... anything else i should look for?

is it possible my graphics card is faulty, or do these fps drops mean that theres something else im missing maybe?

It is possible, I was planning to get an x1950xt for pci_e, and I read a bit about this problem, didn't think it was anything big, until you showed me how bad it was

Try newegg reviews and see how others fixed the problem, or google it, frankly that's all I can think of at this point

thanks for the help, ill keep searching, and post if i find a solution

hahahahhahaha, that is all that post deserves taco.

the 1950pro is not that power hungry compared to say one of my 1900's.

look at my sig and look at my PSU then look at your post.

people get too worked up over power supplies at times. need to take a step back and think for a moment.

ye, but even the xt you could get away with a 450 no bother. then again, i have not heard of tanga, tagan yes, tanga no.

still, i do not think the PSU is responsible.

i do not know the cause however.

to the OP have you tired lowering all the gfx details and res down to 800 x 600 to eliminate the posibility of a bottleneck in the CPU?

considering wow is involved i doubt this.

best also try memtest to eliminate the ram, perhaps only use one stick at a time.

p.s, no offence meant there tacos, it is just i see it all the time where people think throwing insanely high watt PSU's at something will immediately fix things. it is a growing trend nowadays for the PSU to be used as a scapegoat, never used to happen even a few months ago, now it seems PSU's can cure cancer.

ye, but i have had mine for over a year and i started getting hangup and restarts.

turns out it was my ram. i am running them on reduced timings and voltages at the moment. keep meaning to buy some more.

eh check the psu im using

i dont get any hang ups or sudden loss in fps in any game.

I was thinking you know there memtest to test RAM is there a tester to see if the VRAM on the g card is faulty? or would i just see arty-fat-cats onscreen anyway if that was the case?

I'm 99% sure the problem is with the Prescott CPU.
I had exactly the same problem weeks ago.
Try search "Thermal Throttling" in google and you'll find detailed explanation.
In short, Prescott CPU's will automatically lower their frequencies if the internal temperature is above a certain level. (It's about 72 degrees Celcius for my Pentium 4 520.)
When you first started your computer, your CPU was running at full speed. After a while, your CPU will heat up and start to do thermal throttling. That caused your FPS to drop significantly.
And this thermal throttling feature is embedded in the CPU architecture. You can't disable it in BIOS. (Probably you don't want to disable it, because your P4 will be burned were it not for this thermal throttling feature.)
If you say there is a "bottleneck", then it is your cooling system.

quick question; would this new gfx card suddenly put extra load on the cpu that i never had before? because with my 6800 GT i never really experienced any fps drops when game settings were within acceptable limits for the card. Although what prompted me to get a new card in the first place was the screen suddenly going into artifacting, which is unsettling because problems happened before i replaced my Gcard.

I doubt it's your gfx card, unless if it's putting out more heat (which I doubt, hardly anything besides an oc'd r600 could do that) and that could cause your cpu to run hotter. The throttle theory works perfectly with it being cpu, as it explains why it would dip and go back up. Try a better thermal paste, arctic ceramique seems to do huge wonders with p4s

Just get a cheap arctic cooling freezer 7 pro, or if you have the money a massive thermalright ultra 120 extreme/ifx-14, either of those three will fix the fps issue for you, though I would recommend the thermalright route if you have the $$$

This is a pretty nice one, I personally prefer xs because the flamers and idiots that won't listen at all are instantly banned so only people willing to learn or share knowledge are there making it a lot cleaner, but thg is a pretty nice one too

Actually, it is, but I have no idea how to do so, I've only heard of it once when someone started joking about it then someone else actually showed it could be done. Best way would probably to take out an old hdd turbine and replace your fan's engine with it and see where that gets you. But if you want airflow, delta fans win no contest there, the only company to bring you 200+cfm on a 120mm fan, but the noise level is unbearable imo

I think ill just wait to buy some arctic cooling paste, im sure its alot better than the stuff that came with the heatsink and i read that bad quality stuff degrades over time whereas the AC hardens and lasts up to 8 years, ive had some bad paste sitting there for good part of 4 years now so looks like the time has come

right ok got it, may aswell go all out just to hammer down that temp, cheers

You seriously bought a delta??????? You should be sure to volt mod that thing, it'll break your ears, I only said it as a joke. Oh well, enjoy your 50c temp drop

But you have to be careful with powerful fans like those to get all the pressure out, so be sure to have plenty of exhausts


sealboy: Yar, gotta agree that a low dba fan would be better for the extreme, though have you considered waiting for the ifx-14?