Okay, so I am having a problem with the rig I am building. I bought all the parts from newegg in one order. They sent everything in one box and then for some reason the RAM is going to be here on Monday. So the problem I am having is I hooked everything else up, except the RAM obviously, and when I hit power the VGA fan goes on for 5 seconds then shuts off and then 5 seconds later it goes back on and same thing with the case fan. The CPU fan starts going randomly for about 3 seconds and then stops. Now, I know I am missing the RAM, but from my knowledge and experience this shouldn't happen because of the RAM being gone. What is wrong? Please help me
more specs of your system would deffenetily help. Motherboard model, cpu psu brand
Oh, sorry, Here it is...
Intel Core 2 Duo E4300
Gigabyte GA 965-S3 socket 775 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128017
FSP 450watt PSU
Apevia Case
Man... that is so weird. I've seen so many post on this.
In general basic observations, it should stay on and constantly beep, indicating no ram is present.
Sooooooo... I think you better take that the HSF, and CPU out/off. Inspect the 775 socket for bent pins on the MB socket. I kinda bet you have bent pins sorry to say.
I've seen so many people experience this type of problem in the home built section, and advise so many different things to help solve it, that nothing worked for them.
Until recently in this section, a guy posted basically the same problem. Turns out he did have 2 bent pins on the socket.
Don't worry, I know it's a pain to wait for items to ship but that's the price you pay for saving the money. Wait till you get your RAM tomorrow and then see if you have a problem. I recently had everything I needed for my system except for the RAM and woke up at 7am the day it was to be delivered and sat on the porch until it got here at about 3pm, I know what your going through. I also started the system without the RAM just to make sure things were working and it did some funny things but in the end it was fine. Newegg has a few different warehouses, Ten, Cal, NJ, where it shipped from will determine how long it takes to arrive
I do agree its best to put a system together will all parts when you get them, then power up a system without all the parts.
The thing is, I've seen this type of problem on the forumz with system with all parts installed (total system built, nothing missing).
But like I mentioned on my first reply, it should stay on and constantly beep.
To the OP, if this is your first time installing an intel 775 socket mb setup, plz watch this video:
Intel 775 socket install
It does have some good points to follow/consider. Although, I don't agree wearing gloves, cause for some reason, I think I'd have butter fingers in trying to hold stuff.
Okay, I watched that video, and I checked the motherboard socket and CPU pins. I examined them for about 10 minutes and I saw nothing at all wrong with them. This is my first time using a 775 mobo/proc so I am guessing to have all of the pins slanted diagonally is what its supposed to be. But, anyway I followed the instructions and the same thing is still happening. I don't know what is wrong!
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Try running the MB out of the PC case with none of the PC case wires hooked up.
Always of a chance of faulty buttons, or wires hooked up incorrectly, or some kind of unseen short from the bottom of the MB to the PC case plate.
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OR.. maybe that is how it suppose to act without ram.
I am hoping this is the way it is supposed to act without RAM. This isn't my computer, its one I am building for a friend and I don't want him mad. But anyway I did try running it out of my case and the same exact thing happens as if it was in my case.
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A) What?
B) The RAM is is still at the post office
C) Yes
D) There is no 6-pin
E) I think so, I didn't change it.
F) It is plugged in right
I am using a XFX nVidia 7600GT. and I was told the FSP 450watt could handle thsi rig by far by many people.
| Quote : Unless you drop something onto of the socket, it is difficult to ruin a 775 pin, they are delicate no doubt, but it takes a special effort to damage them.
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Well, effort or not, I'm just saying it might be something overlooked. Someone may assume that the pins are suppose to be bent, but if you ever saw that video, it tells you to reject the MB.
So with that being said, it is important to check very carefully that none are mis-aligned, or bent.
The thread that made me think of this possiblity was from this thread:
Help!!! Burnt out CPU??????
Only difference is, his machine stayed powered on I think.
Edit:
And he did end up getting it working..
A. What?
. o O ( I was thinking of that insurance commercial when the cave man was responding to that lady)
He's talking about the CPU power, which is 4 pin square (not rectangle) with yellow and black wires. Some MB use 8, but 4 still can be used.
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That can cause a system to power off, then back on repeating. (if its not hooked up)
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Oh, yeah, thats plugged in fine.
I have a DS3, which is virtually the same as the S3. I believe what you are describing is normal for this board.
When I first hit the power button, my machine comes on for a second and then goes back off, and then comes back on and boots. According to Gigabyte, this is normal, and I have never had any problems with it.
The CPU fan probably isn't spinning because without the RAM to boot the machine, the CPU has nothing to do, and therefore generates too little heat to trigger the fan. My CPU fan barely spins for awhile after bootup, until the CPU starts to build up some heat.
So you're probably OK, but let us know how it goes tomorrow.
| Quote : I have a DS3, which is virtually the same as the S3. I believe what you are describing is normal for this board.
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Thank you very much! this makes me feel better. And I just realized I was missing the mobo speaker. So, I put that in and I am getting a continuous beep, which I guess is saying there is no RAM.
BUT, this scares me. My machines keeps doing the coming on and going off thing. It never sustains power. But, hopefully this is just cause theres no RAM to get it booted to stay on.
DO NOT WORRY
i had a gygabite 965p ds3 which is the same thing as yours (wella lmost), when my ram was NOT compatible, it did the exact same thing, once i changed the ram , no more problem .
i would bet it does the same thing when you don't put any ram, probably a typical behaviour of these motherboards. so don't worry man and wait for your ram, and DO NOT FORGET that even if you plug in your ram , you might experience the same thing , it does not mean something is wrong with your components, but rather an incompatibility between your mobo and ram.
i hope you chose your ram carefuly, the 965p is a little bit picky specially for the 800mhz rams.
Stop playing with your friends machine, or you will have to wait at your porch for days after RMAing the destroyed parts
Thunderfox i had for awhile your "problem" when i tried to overclock my cpu d 805, i put a memory ratio of 3.3 , this caused the problem you described (the machine starts and shut off , then starts again after few seconds)
when i changed the memory ratio, the problem was gone... well that is just an information that you might find interesting.
| Quote : Thunderfox i had for awhile your "problem" |
Thanks for the tip, but I am running everything at stock, and Gigabyte's page for this board specifically describes this behavior as normal, so I don't think it's really a "problem". It may be, however, that is is not a universal feature of all boards, or maybe they have changed it in later board revisions or BIOS updates.
Not really sure, but like I said, it has given me no trouble, so I'm not concerned about it.
But thanks for the info nonetheless.
Ok, THANK YOU EVERYBODY! I am very happy we figured out what is wrong, and I am not going to touch it until the RAM is in again. You guys are great, I really appreciate everything you guys did. Thank you again!
Before you promise not to touch it again, remember that every time you remove the CPU cooler, you have to remove the old thermal compound and apply fresh compound before reinstalling it. If you did that when you were messing with the CPU instead of waiting patiently for the RAM to arrive, you're OK. Otherwise, take off the cooler, clean off the old compound, and apply fresh compound before reinstalling it.
Ooo, I did not do that. But I didn't run the CPU for more than 10 seconds at a time, but I should get new paste before running it extensive lengths now. I don't have any though... But then again I DO work at a computer store... lol
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Actually, you need to get new paste before running it AT ALL.
| Quote : ...I should get new paste before running it extensive lengths now.... |
Actually, you need to get new paste before running it AT ALL.
Why? At my work when we take off the cooler for a little we don't replace the paste, and we have never had a problem.
Because it's much easier to prevent air bubbles (= insulators) from becoming trapped between the heat sink and CPU when you are using a fresh application of compound on a clean surface. That's the reason Intel says the pre-applied compound on their hsfs can't be reused when the hsf is removed.
| Quote : ...I should get new paste before running it extensive lengths now.... |
Actually, you need to get new paste before running it AT ALL.
Why? At my work when we take off the cooler for a little we don't replace the paste, and we have never had a problem.
You work with computers for a living? 8O
Why would you take a heatsink off for a "little"? :?
And yes,
you need to clean off the old paste with 90% Isopropyl alcohol and apply new paste every time you remove the heatsink.
Let us know in the morning how everything turns out, I'm sure it will be fine.
Everything turned out fine. Thank you everyone!
| Quote : ...I should get new paste before running it extensive lengths now.... |
Actually, you need to get new paste before running it AT ALL.
Why? At my work when we take off the cooler for a little we don't replace the paste, and we have never had a problem.
dont mess........
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