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It may seem like a waste of money, but what the hell. What would be your top of the range pick on graphics card today ... and tomorrow? I mean, would you buy a 8800GTX or some ATI today or wait for an upcoming release of newer cards? Basically, I want the top video card and can wait a little bit with the purchase.

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Well, 8800Ultra is the best card, but it's a big waste of money.

The 8800GTX is basically the same card for a lot cheaper. I say go for the 8800GTX.

Reply to prozac26

I agree with prozac, the newer to be released cards, the 2950 or the 8900, are at this point just talked about, to be released who knows when cards. The GTX is the way to go for the top card now

Reply to jaydeejohn
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it really depend of you, how is your games holding up to you? are you sick of old games and ready to step up?? if you cant wait to see the real dx10 games holding up the current top cards then buy a card that is right for you. 8800s, gts320 if you are gaming at lower resolution and 8800gts640 to 8800gtx for higher resolution. and yes skip the ati-amd cards for now.

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I see. So, ATI is not the winner right now and won't be for some time to come. And what is the specific reason on why Ultra is not worth it? Very little increase in performance and a big one in price? Or it may have its flaws?

Reply to AINTD

You just named the two flaws. Too much cost and too lttle performance.

Reply to jaydeejohn
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save the extra 200$ from ultra and get gtx. use the 200$ for 2nd gen dx10 cards. you'll be glad you did.

Reply to accu
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You just named the two flaws. Too much cost and too lttle performance.



:D :D I see. I'm not the kind of a stuborn customer who wants "The best of the best". I'm ready to pay for what is good and what is worth the price. Then 8800GTX it shall be, by no means a "lame choice" :D Thank you guys for your quick response, appreciate it. :) :)

Reply to AINTD

Anytime, and I think youll be quite happy with your purchase, one thing tho, make sure you have enough room in your case for the GTX, its a huge card. Hope it works

Reply to jaydeejohn

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I see. So, ATI is not the winner right now and won't be for some time to come. And what is the specific reason on why Ultra is not worth it? Very little increase in performance and a big one in price? Or it may have its flaws?


It costs significantly more than the GTX, and offers minimal performance increase.

Reply to prozac26

If you can wait, like you are thinking "I would maybe like to have something a little better maybe", but I can live without it right now, then wait. Hardware always gets better-cheaper over time.
If you cannot wait, and just have to have the best there is RIGHT NOW.
Get an 8800gtx
The 8800Ultra is the very best right now, but for $900+US, it's an awfully expensive, very small step over the 8800gtx.

Reply to jitpublisher
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Thank you. :)

For the second part of the question, what brand should I buy? There's a wide selection and the prices differ quite a bit as well. I'm new to NVidia cards, so I can't really choose.

Also, there is this one brand that offers the card already OC'd (from 575MHz to 626MHz) for the same (similar) price, is it worth it? I'm going to watercool it at any rate and can do the OC'ing myself, so should I go for the basic stats or OC'ed ones are always better?

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Anyone? How important is the brand? EVGA as usually the most pricey. :D

Reply to AINTD
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generally if it has a good warranty, just go for the cheapest option.

Reply to blade85
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You said your not in a hurry for a new card, then WAIT. The new cards coming out on the market will use 65 nm cores. That means they wont consume as much power and produce much less heat. They will also be faster then todays 8800gtx ultra and 2900xt cards. And thats worth waiting for, specially since there are no dx10 games released yet.

Reply to loopack

The EVGA GTX is priced pretty similar to the other brands on newegg, give or take $10-20.

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Also, the EVGA warranty is very nice; lifetime and it covers overclocking and watercooling mods as long as you don't physically break the card in the process ;)

Reply to MonocleCat

2 x ATI HD2900XT in crossfire is the top end card, there are benches on the internet showing it beating 2 x 8800 GTX SLI. ATI may not have the high ground on single cards, but it seems there multi card setup with the internal crossfire is much more efficient that Nvidia's SLI.

Just food for thought.

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2 x ATI HD2900XT in crossfire is the top end card, there are benches on the internet showing it beating 2 x 8800 GTX SLI. ATI may not have the high ground on single cards, but it seems there multi card setup with the internal crossfire is much more efficient that Nvidia's SLI.

Just food for thought.


Links?

Reply to Gary_Busey
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The BFG 8800GTX OC is $10 +/- more than the EVGA, comes with a lifetime warranty and is over clocked from the factory... I recently bought one and think it is a wonderful card.

Reply to turtle1
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loopack is sooo right: wait! you have the same card as i have wich is in no way slow, so just wait. you can play a lot of games maxxed out and just a few titles with a little less eye-candy wich in my opinion run great at these settings (mostly 1280x1024 4xAA with less hdr and shadows in my case for oblivion rainbow six vegas etc.)

wait for the real dx10 games and benchies and then make your buying judgement. my feeling is that these dx10 cards we have now will not play dx10 games for long because they are to slow with it (just judging from lost planet dx10 demo and shader intensive games like oblivion, vegas and stalker).

i can be very wrong but wait for the games you can not play at descent settings and then make a decision about the power of current hd2900xt and 8800gtx. (could be even that ati gets better performance out of the 2900 down the road due to better drivers, who knows...)

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oh, and i now see you have a athlon x2. fine cpu but if you need more gaming power now (and money is burning in your pockets) get a fast core2duo and clock it!

that way you have enough power to get the most out of a 8800gtx or second generation card (wichever you decide) and you'll get a nice boost right now.

happy gaming :wink:

Reply to meljor

This is the same problem that I'm having. I'm building a new rig in a couple weeks, but the problem is that I have NOTHING now, save for a 4 yr old dell laptop. I'm going to go ahead and get the 8800 gtx and hope that with dx10 tweaks etc it can keep up. My advice to you: since you have a half decent card already you can wait a bit and see what happens. The GTX isn't going to go up in price so you have nothing to lose by waiting.

Reply to MonocleCat

Put in your budget a new power supply for the 8800 GTX unless you already have a very powerful one.

Reply to evongugg
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I'd get the 8800GTX. The Ultra is overpriced - even if I had the money I wouldn't waste it on that.

Sadly, ATI's offering looks weak at the moment and runs very hot too.

I wouldn't wait for the next thing round the corner - I would just buy from what's out there now.

Having said all that, I only have an X1800XT at the moment and I don't feel the need to upgrade yet - it's doing me just fine right now.

Reply to ethel

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Put in your budget a new power supply for the 8800 GTX unless you already have a very powerful one.



Yep, I'm building from scratch; already got a TT Toughpower 700w when it was on sale @ newegg this easter. Should be enough to run everything.

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