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January 13, 2012 5:39:05 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-16...

I'm really starting to wonder what the hell to do. The BBC would never seek to charge me over that link but if it was to a US 'news' site such as FOX or CBS and they see fit, especially when SOPA hits in, then I could be on a plane.

If I still had any right of protest over here I would :( 
January 13, 2012 10:39:17 PM

I'm worried sick about what's going to happen to our world. If this ridiculous bill does pass (PLEASE don't even get me started...), I fear the outcome.
January 14, 2012 1:00:22 AM

http://www.osnews.com/story/25507/Microsoft_Forces_OEMs...

Quote:
On non-ARM systems, it is required to implement the ability to disable Secure Boot via firmware setup. A physically present user must be allowed to disable Secure Boot via firmware setup without possession of PKpriv. Programmatic disabling of Secure Boot either during Boot Services or after exiting EFI Boot Services MUST NOT be possible. Disabling Secure MUST NOT be possible on ARM systems.
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January 14, 2012 3:34:55 AM

amdfangirl said:
http://www.osnews.com/story/25507/Microsoft_Forces_OEMs...

Quote:
On non-ARM systems, it is required to implement the ability to disable Secure Boot via firmware setup. A physically present user must be allowed to disable Secure Boot via firmware setup without possession of PKpriv. Programmatic disabling of Secure Boot either during Boot Services or after exiting EFI Boot Services MUST NOT be possible. Disabling Secure MUST NOT be possible on ARM systems.


But Microsoft would never do wrong :sarcastic: 
January 14, 2012 9:38:51 AM

Pyroflea said:
I'm worried sick about what's going to happen to our world. If this ridiculous bill does pass (PLEASE don't even get me started...), I fear the outcome.


What concerns me even more is that I now seem to be subject to both UK and US Law in one foul swoop. I have the ability to exert some influence on UK law. Last time I checked I didn't have any voting rights in the US. I can't say that what O'Dwyer did was a good thing but at the time it was legal in the UK, that he's never set foot in the US, had a UK registered domain and didn't host any content himself makes this case a complete insult to the very principles of democracy that this country rightfully held up to the world as an example of good practice.

I've already written to my member of parliament (MP) and also my European MP regarding this and the absurdity of the 2003 treaty that <insert rant filled with expletives> Blair signed us up to. I've asked them to clarify two key points:

1. What is the threshold. When SOPA comes into force would they support extradition for a single download?

2. Do they recognise NDAA and if so would they allow extradition requested against that US law.

It's come to something when I'd rather see Snooki running the planet than the muppets we now seems to be subjected to. :pfff: 

January 14, 2012 9:46:42 AM

Pyroflea said:
But Microsoft would never do wrong :sarcastic: 


Microsoft? Don't you think it's a bit of a coincidence that this comes out just as Intel announce Medfield?

Can anybody say Anti-Trust. This is clearly a move to help Intel get traction in the tablet sphere. Why the hell would you buy an ARM based unit which will not run legacy applications, especailly when you know there will be no option to move to CryogenMod or any Linux varient.

Microsoft will gain market share by helping ARM tablets through marketing (likely funded by their illigal extortion of Android licences) and gain a significan percentage. When anything over 30% of the market is locked down then they will kill it and let the Intel side take its place.

Over a 2-3 year period I'd short ARM stock.

January 14, 2012 8:36:34 PM

In the case of Facebook, that's probably a good thing, haha!
January 15, 2012 12:14:24 PM

Pyroflea said:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/facebook/india-oks-censoring-...

Even more great news in the world! Combined with china, that's 2.5 Billion saved from excessive profiling on behalf of the US Government and corporate interests .


Fixed that for you. ;) 

Seriously - Facebook is the single biggest piece of evil ever to hit the net. I have more respect for virus authors than I have for an organisation that's valuing the data it can extract from its users at $150 a pop. When will people realise that for Facebook and Google you are the product it's you that they sell, not software or a web experience.

** Heads off to gain weight, a long beard and to devise recursive acronyms for future projects **
January 15, 2012 7:08:00 PM

While I do agree that Facebook is evil, it along with Twitter are hugely important methods of spreading news these days, whether or not people like to admit it. I don't support either company, but news spreads via social media faster than any other method. Should have been more clear in my initial post ;) 

I was initially just pointing out that country after country is starting to lock down and censor the internet, and we have a new member in the club.
January 15, 2012 8:07:44 PM

I know, and I was being deliberately provocative in my reply.

One that you might not have seen but is well worth a watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwQhNE65wmg&feature=g-al...

It's 14 minutes but you get the message by 5 minutes in. Watching this I had to think that maybe to many people in power watched 'How to get ahead in advertising' while at business school.
January 15, 2012 8:58:46 PM

audiovoodoo said:
I know, and I was being deliberately provocative in my reply.

One that you might not have seen but is well worth a watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwQhNE65wmg&feature=g-al...

It's 14 minutes but you get the message by 5 minutes in. Watching this I had to think that maybe to many people in power watched 'How to get ahead in advertising' while at business school.


I just hate everybody. :( 

Thank you for showing me this.
January 16, 2012 12:49:07 AM

I remember when my ISP gave me a strike for using p2p to download Linux ISOs. The system they had in place only detected p2p connections, not exactly what you were download. I was threatened with court proceedings for p2p'ing free software. The ISP tech support was like "nah, p2p is illegal, even if you are downloading free software, it violates copyright".

If SOPA passes, I can imagine the article headlines on Phoronix... "Aussie girl deported to US for sharing own Fedora remix".
January 16, 2012 1:01:27 AM

Not sure if your country was daft enough to sign up to the extradition process we have or not. I know you've had some daft legislation on the table (how states over there have legalised prostitution but the government feels the need to protect people from on-line pornography does baffle me - especially when they employ brothel inspectors!) but you've never been quite the American lapdog we seem to be here in the UK.
January 16, 2012 1:18:36 AM

Ever since WWII Australia has been America's 51st state (52nd if you count Canada), since the ANZUS treaty, Australia just follows USA in exchange for protection.
January 16, 2012 1:21:21 AM

Pyroflea said:
I just hate everybody. :( 

Thank you for showing me this.


I'm finding it very hard not to be a bitter and twisted individual after the reading I've been doing this week. If you value your sanity don't follow the same route and watch Ziteguist, Loose Change or any of the multitude of 9/11 documentaries out there. I'm not to proud to admit that I've been reduced to tears on hearing some of the tales in these films. It's not a popular thing to be a thinker :( 
January 16, 2012 1:25:54 AM

amdfangirl said:
Ever since WWII Australia has been America's 51st state (52nd if you count Canada), since the ANZUS treaty, Australia just follows USA in exchange for protection.


I'll trust you on that one. To be honest we only ever hear about you guys when the Cricket or Rugby is on... and we happen to be winning for a change. Rest of the time we just have the marketing and a whole load of people saying it's a nicer place to live than here.

January 16, 2012 1:31:10 AM

audiovoodoo said:
I'm finding it very hard not to be a bitter and twisted individual after the reading I've been doing this week. If you value your sanity don't follow the same route and watch Ziteguist, Loose Change or any of the multitude of 9/11 documentaries out there. I'm not to proud to admit that I've been reduced to tears on hearing some of the tales in these films. It's not a popular thing to be a thinker :( 


I've seen Zeitgeist already, among others. I can completely relate to how you feel. I watched a video today that just put me into a fit of rage. I need to stop involving myself with politics.
January 16, 2012 4:46:50 AM

So wait, MS to just say that Fedora infringes SOPA, pull it down and get total dominance over the OS market.

These days it seems the US gov't is run by mega corporations.
January 16, 2012 5:18:18 AM

I think it's more likely to be Apple than Microsoft.
January 16, 2012 1:29:47 PM

It was late last night, the monster example is actually more PIPA than SOPA. If you read the comments on the article you see the two clear camps forming. On one side people point out that just because it's on a list by Monster does not mean that it would stand up in court. On the other side it's a clear example of what some companies want to do with it and how they want to regain complete control of the supply channel. Really it's the clearest sign that a lot of companies don't understand the modern market place they are part of and how to adapt to to.

The US has been run by corporations since the end of the second world war. Just look how much money they donate to both sides of the political field. It's one thing I think the UK system has right. We limit the war chest of any party candidate in an effort to stop undue influence. That being said there is an alarming correlation between party donors and those receiving civil honours (OBE, CBE, Knighthood etc).

Apple has way more control of its supply chain than MS has. By making both the HW and SW components and offering a direct sales channel they are avoiding a lot of the issues that MS faces; One of the reasons they tend to have a more stable product is the limited and known target platform. It's not often I defend them but the iPhone situation has more to do with the carriers than it does the product itself. I'd still not be surprised to see Google or Apple get into the service area to gain complete control of the user experience, and more importantly the data.
January 16, 2012 1:49:00 PM

Pyroflea said:
I watched a video today that just put me into a fit of rage. I need to stop involving myself with politics.


Quite the opposite. You and I need to think of ways that we as people can take the power back from the corporations and act on them. The trouble is that so much of the post 2001 legislation has been designed to daemonise those that seek to question. Lots of people threw in the towel over fears of what their actions could result in personally. I can't blame them for that, but then we'd never have seen this without people with stronger convictions

January 16, 2012 1:54:55 PM

Maybe there is some hope..

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/01/16/1457237/house-ki...

Maybe this is one example where corporations did some good. I doubt this would have happened without the threats from Wiki, Google and Facebook to take services down in protest. It's not dead as people on /. have observed (the Patriot Act had the same treatment and still got through) but it's a sign that at least the protest has made some difference.


EDIT - Removed quote as unreliable source and clarified that this is stalled not dead at this time.

January 25, 2012 4:27:42 AM

Ironically that's my ISP.

Had a door knock from iinet copyright lawyers before. Said that they saw that I was using P2P and thus infriging copyright. I was using P2P to download Linux ISOs & LibreOffice because of my flaky internet connection.

I told them to check their facts. They still want to press charges for downloading FOSS tho.
January 25, 2012 7:02:11 AM

amdfangirl said:
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Had a door knock from iinet copyright lawyers before. Said that they saw that I was using P2P and thus infriging copyright. I was using P2P to download Linux ISOs & LibreOffice because of my flaky internet connection.

I told them to check their facts. They still want to press charges for downloading FOSS tho.

January 25, 2012 8:05:38 AM

I would seriously suggest speaking to a lawyer and also to the EFF. Getting local media involved is also a good plan, make a huge play on being a moderator here and how you help others to avoid running pirate software by promoting FOSS. A counter claim of harassment would not be unwarranted.

If you need any statements to back your case then just let us all know. Reynod might be a good person to talk to being in the same timezone and having contacts with some good industry people.
January 25, 2012 9:09:16 AM

I'm doubting it will stand up in court. I'm capable of defending myself. I don't need to waste the time of the EFF and I'm perfectly fine with it all. Besides, this was a while ago, and my ISP won the case anyhow: http://www.zdnet.com.au/afact-seeks-iinet-high-court-ap...

After all, they can't actually sue me for 'pirating' free open source software can they? It's why I'm switching to FOSS software. Can't stand to pay much more in this economic climate and I'm not going to piate anything.

The ISP records show me downloading free software and I can back up my direct from site Adobe downloads with reciepts.

They changed the thing so they don't randomly accuse people who use p2p of piracy, but that's my experience with big content holders. :) 
January 25, 2012 11:23:41 AM

I'd still be inclined to fire EFF a note about your experience, it's only with an aggregated knowledge of the global scene that they can plan the bigger picture.
January 31, 2012 12:20:50 AM

People used to tell me I was a crackpot. That I was paranoid about being monitored... Now the DHS proves my point nicely:

http://it.slashdot.org/story/12/01/31/001213/dhs-sends-...

Just to be clear on this, the twitter messages were sent weeks before the couple in question flew out. Given the rants that I've made over the years I doubt I'd even be let on the plane.
January 31, 2012 1:46:59 AM

I just read about that about an hour ago. Absolutely infuriating. Feeling a lot like Farnsworth right now.
January 31, 2012 11:27:15 AM

The really sad bit of it for me was reading some of the comments to the story on sites like Yahoo, 'At least they protect their border unlike the UK who just let anybody in'. Now I do have some sympathy for this, there are some things that make even a liberal minded chimp scratch his head. For example, When I have to go and sign for my social security payment and people having an interpreter, paid for by the UK state so they can complete an application for benefits, again paid for by the UK state, despite never having paid taxes here. I really can't blame them, if I could move somewhere a bit warmer and still get my basic living costs paid I'd be off myself... As the saying goes 'Hate the game, not the player'

The trouble is that comments like those are just a distraction from a whole load of politics that I barely understand and which most of my fellow country folks can't even see. As someone who's battled with depression for many years I'm finding it hard at the moment. My present situation is not good, not working and stuck in a shared house that no longer works for me. Add on top of that the apparent transfer of power to remove my democratic involvement, the masquerade of the wars on drugs, terror and basic civil rights and I'm getting to a point where I almost hope the Mayans knew something we don't.




January 31, 2012 11:35:23 AM

amdfangirl said:
*Jumps around*

Don't forget about ACTA!!!]

https://www.eff.org/issues/acta


Don't even get me started on this. Almost no coverage of the riots on the BBC news, you have to go watch Russia Today to see anything decent on it.

Then you get that scum bag Chris Dodd on FOX... :fou: 

Do we really need any more indication that politics in the western world is no longer about democracy but the manipulation of the population to protect the true corporate and financial overlords?
January 31, 2012 11:44:46 AM

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January 31, 2012 11:48:28 AM

audiovoodoo said:
Do we really need any more indication that politics in the western world is no longer about democracy but the manipulation of the population to protect the true corporate and financial overlords?


Which do politicians care more about? The votes of the people or the 'campaign support' (bribery) of politicians.

After all, whoever spends most on spin wins the majority of elections.

Isn't that win-win?

Except for us normal people of course.

Matter of time before Microsoft patents something like shutdown and sues the crap out of FOSS.

Or congress bans FOSS under Communism/Terrorism/Piracy... or whatever the latest scare campaign now is.

Someone needs to convince Stallman to run for president. My vote is with him. :/ 

Our governments run us with fear. Used to be reds under the bed, now it's jihad. World's just ruled by a few massive TNCs.

At some point people are going to point out that American companies armed them and give them illegal drugs to sell to pay off debt.

At some point people are going to realise that American companies like cisco made the great firewall of China.

We're all being lied to, our great 'freedom' we have.
January 31, 2012 12:54:43 PM

amdfangirl said:
At some point people are going to point out that American companies armed them and give them illegal drugs to sell to pay off debt.


Cocaine
Importation
Agency

No
Secrets
Anymore

Draconian
Hostile
State

January 31, 2012 3:05:24 PM

And as if things couldn't get any worse, my country gets hit with the lovely Bill C-11!



Fantastic. I will not longer even own what I pay for. Looks like I just won't buy ANYTHING anymore. I mean, piracy and ripping media THAT I PAID FOR will both be illegal, so why not save myself some money?
January 31, 2012 3:34:42 PM

Where are you located Pyroflea? Canada??
January 31, 2012 3:56:25 PM

audiovoodoo said:
Where are you located Pyroflea? Canada??


Indeed I am, located in Vancouver currently. A nice mountain hut in Scandinavia is looking pretty nice right now though.
January 31, 2012 7:26:58 PM

audiovoodoo said:
In times like this the best answer maybe to just deploy the Tactical Nuclear Penguin... [/More effective than a Molotov!]


If it wasn't 35 quid, I'd be all over it.
January 31, 2012 11:44:57 PM

Going back to the old student measure of 'prof per pound it's actually not bad value, one bottle is roughly 8 pints of 5% beer! Still poor value compared to budget Vodka or Sherry. [/And I wonder why I didn't get a first..]

The same people do 'Sink the Bismark', a mere 42%. Got to love their naming, after public outcry at making beer so strong they did a low alcohol version called 'Nanny State'.
February 1, 2012 1:24:21 AM

Pyroflea said:
If it wasn't 35 quid, I'd be all over it.

Literally, my thoughts exactly (I do enjoy a hearty porter, and this one scares me a bit)
February 1, 2012 1:29:47 AM

audiovoodoo said:
The same people do 'Sink the Bismark', a mere 42%. Got to love their naming, after public outcry at making beer so strong they did a low alcohol version called 'Nanny State'.


Nicely-played, BrewDog brewery. If/when I find myself in the neighborhood I will certainly make it a point to support the cause.
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