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January 9, 2009 7:10:24 PM

I have a legal version of Vista Ultimate 64/32 DVD copy (recently built a new system)

Laptop I purchased a few years ago with Vista Home Premium.

I need to reformat the laptop but I don’t have Vista Home Premium disk so I was wondering if I could use the Ultimate disk but use the Home Premium Key code on the back of the laptop? Is it ok?

Thanks
February 25, 2009 3:03:47 AM

The way I understand it, the software d/l and dvd are all the versions. The activation key is what allows the versions and their features to activate, but the software is Ultimate. So I would say yes go ahead, worst case scenario is another clean install. But...make sure you have ALL the laptop drivers needed for the laptop b4 reformatting your drive.
February 25, 2009 1:04:32 PM

And if it does work for you, Please take the time to post back your results. Thanks
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February 27, 2009 1:43:01 PM

The only thing you might have to worry about is OEM vs. retail... I'm not sure if OEM keys will work with retail discs. I have used a single disc to install Home Basic, Home Premium and Business... the only difference was the product key... but I also had an OEM disc. I'm a little fuzzy on if a retail disc works with OEM keys or not.
March 19, 2009 11:15:07 AM

I want to let you guys know that the OEM vs. retail disk is a real problem. I had this problem with a recently purchased Dell Vostro. I did the clean install with a retail version of XP because we had payed for the dowgrade for our business, but we didn't want all the DELL junk on it. I was able to sucessfully do the reinstall, but, when I tried to activate windows afterward, I could not. I called India and some one told me the key was bd (of course they won't explain the details). Then I called Dell and got into a 2 hour long argument with a bunch of representatives who had no idea what they were talking about...thank God, we had purchased a protection plan, so they transferred me to a gold-star tech finally. He politely explained that DELL has a deal with MICROSOFT (most definately for discount purposes) that allows them to produce DELL OEM install discs with keys that will ONLY WORK WITH THE PC THAT THE OS WAS ORIGINALLY BOUGHT WITH.....that's what OEM stands for Original Equipment Manufacturer....

So, to sum up, I think it's a manufacturer by manufacturer thing, becuase I went through the same process to install XP on a Lenovo laptop, and I had no problem using a retail disc with the product key on the sticker on the bottom of the laptop.

Hope this helps....I need to try this Home Vista key with Ultimate disc install thing for myself....I'll post back afterward.
March 23, 2009 8:33:20 PM

I've had no problems using generic OEM discs with the keys on any PC thus far. I wouldn't even attempt using a retail disc with an OEM key unless I knew for sure that it worked. It's always best to use OEM discs for OEM licenses.
June 17, 2009 12:59:39 AM

Just to confirm for others, I just installed Vista Home Premium 64 w/ SP1 using my Ultimate 64 w/SP1 disk...it knows from the key which version to install.

Bob
September 15, 2011 3:12:01 PM

All you need is to do is make sure the install cd/boot cd is OEM activated, like lets say I have a Dell that came with Windows 7 Home premium.

I would need to find a Windows 7 cd with the version of windows that I wanted that is OEM enabled by that manufacturing company

so for my

Dell Windows7 - Home Premium OEM.iso /(I would need)\ Dell Windows7 - Ultimate OEM.iso

OEM's are custom key's that use a Root (wmic) Powershell X:0x00001 <----- hidden 1mb file on most new systems bios that activates the 100mb partition file on a Hard Drive to enable the OEM to auto activate.

OEM's are not made by Dell, Windows, HP etc. it is a private company that sells encryption firmware to Large manufactures for mass distribution of windows. It talks with the manufactures personal system recoveries, that 100mb windows safety partition, and to keep 2.1SLIC's (which is what activates Windows from it servers) able to activate the registered key.

When you buy a cpu, the manufacturer has no idea if you bought Home Premium, Pro, or Ultimate, they dont care. Unless you paid for extra $ when you ordered the pc to be ultimate rather then home. To expedite this effectively and efficiently they install the OEM to activate any version into the BIOS : )
Haven't you ever wondered why they don't ship windows disc anymore or reinstall software with a brand new pc or laptop? only a recovery disc? And somehow they can see all your system specs if you download there auto updaters, or online recoveries....

Believe it or not, but laptops can be traced using these. You can disable them....if you know how in the bios or flashing a modded one

but I digress

You CANT use a retail version because it wont activate the OEM (UNLESS) you place a X:boot/OEM1 into a Hard drive of your own( not the one that was purchased with or threw a cpu manufacturer but one you get at bestbuy, or online at amazon. The best is to use a WD external HD and pop it out of the plastic case. Your laptop must have recently flashed the most recent bios, then you can trick it into thinking its registered, by putting a new HD MBR using a UltBoot CD.iso (free on the internet) on the new HD purchased, external HD dont have one making them the easiest to utilize since you dont need to delete the old MBR or kill the disc back to 00 to get rid of that hidden X: partition. With the new HD/ new MBR inplace when you boot the PC the BIOS wont find the hidden X: partition company's put on it, will automatically bypass it and assume it was corrupted.
---DO NOT turn on automatic updates KEEP THE WIFI or LAN unplugged
------then go into start/
in box type cmd
MS-DOS box pops up
then type wmic
then is a whole list of commands using powershell to write in root level registries to the HD, then you gotta reboot and reinstall. Very long very hard for novice users, but for advanced users, its imperative for those of us who don't want to be traced or tracked.

Every new pc pretty much has a OEM, and every OEM is what ever you want it to be Home/Pro/Ultimate

You just need to find a OEM activated ISO Window7 or Vista CD from your cpu manufacturer Dell/HP use that same OEM company
Toshiba/ACER/Gateway/Lenovo all use the same OEM company - Even if its not for your pc, try it anyways you might get lucky, it might bypass and say ok this code is good enough. there all encrypted in 256-bit algorithms despite the code, inorder to communicate with systems HD's

I know this cause I was taken to court by Dell for unlocking there OEM/SLIC/BIOS/ and hidden X: partition so anyone can have whatever version they want without $$$ for it and delete Dell from tracing laptops. that's the way it should be.
Look it up, They discontinued my laptop cause of me the Studio1555. Sorry if this is rambled but in short....

[if] Dell Windows7 - Home Premium OEM.iso
then /{(I would need)}
=\ Dell Windows7 - Ultimate 64/32 bit<(32x86)> OEM.iso

BTW for anyone who wants to disagree, or write some crap back, don't say anything unless you have Slackware KDE/FreeDos subset or any UNIX subset system installed into your windows not a Virtual box, or USB boot or Dual boot, but a UNIX OS INSIDE the windows shell.... otherwise you don't know what your talking about...trust me, I have been messing/hacking/modding/ from hardware and software /programming cpus since I was 4 (26 now) and my dad put me in front of a Tandy from Radioshack DOS-DIR was all you needed to know. OK

You just need to find a OEM activated ISO with the version you want. BTW with a windows7 ultimate cd you can install whatever version you want from your cpu manufacturer. Ask around how to.

- InFamousD SithCoder
September 17, 2011 5:21:45 AM

Zoron said:
The only thing you might have to worry about is OEM vs. retail... I'm not sure if OEM keys will work with retail discs. I have used a single disc to install Home Basic, Home Premium and Business... the only difference was the product key... but I also had an OEM disc. I'm a little fuzzy on if a retail disc works with OEM keys or not.


Yep, they do. I have done it.
September 17, 2011 5:25:12 AM

stephenlrg said:
I want to let you guys know that the OEM vs. retail disk is a real problem. I had this problem with a recently purchased Dell Vostro. I did the clean install with a retail version of XP because we had payed for the dowgrade for our business, but we didn't want all the DELL junk on it. I was able to sucessfully do the reinstall, but, when I tried to activate windows afterward, I could not. I called India and some one told me the key was bd (of course they won't explain the details). Then I called Dell and got into a 2 hour long argument with a bunch of representatives who had no idea what they were talking about...thank God, we had purchased a protection plan, so they transferred me to a gold-star tech finally. He politely explained that DELL has a deal with MICROSOFT (most definately for discount purposes) that allows them to produce DELL OEM install discs with keys that will ONLY WORK WITH THE PC THAT THE OS WAS ORIGINALLY BOUGHT WITH.....that's what OEM stands for Original Equipment Manufacturer....

So, to sum up, I think it's a manufacturer by manufacturer thing, becuase I went through the same process to install XP on a Lenovo laptop, and I had no problem using a retail disc with the product key on the sticker on the bottom of the laptop.

Hope this helps....I need to try this Home Vista key with Ultimate disc install thing for myself....I'll post back afterward.


Im not sure what happened here. What key did you use with the retail XP disk? None of this should have happened. And no, its not a manufacturer by manufacturer thing. They are all the same.
September 17, 2011 5:59:34 AM

Drew Sterling said:
All you need is to do is make sure the install cd/boot cd is OEM activated, like lets say I have a Dell that came with Windows 7 Home premium.

I would need to find a Windows 7 cd with the version of windows that I wanted that is OEM enabled by that manufacturing company

so for my

Dell Windows7 - Home Premium OEM.iso /(I would need)\ Dell Windows7 - Ultimate OEM.iso

OEM's are custom key's that use a Root (wmic) Powershell X:0x00001 <----- hidden 1mb file on most new systems bios that activates the 100mb partition file on a Hard Drive to enable the OEM to auto activate.

OEM's are not made by Dell, Windows, HP etc. it is a private company that sells encryption firmware to Large manufactures for mass distribution of windows. It talks with the manufactures personal system recoveries, that 100mb windows safety partition, and to keep 2.1SLIC's (which is what activates Windows from it servers) able to activate the registered key.

When you buy a cpu, the manufacturer has no idea if you bought Home Premium, Pro, or Ultimate, they dont care. Unless you paid for extra $ when you ordered the pc to be ultimate rather then home. To expedite this effectively and efficiently they install the OEM to activate any version into the BIOS : )
Haven't you ever wondered why they don't ship windows disc anymore or reinstall software with a brand new pc or laptop? only a recovery disc? And somehow they can see all your system specs if you download there auto updaters, or online recoveries....

Believe it or not, but laptops can be traced using these. You can disable them....if you know how in the bios or flashing a modded one

but I digress

You CANT use a retail version because it wont activate the OEM (UNLESS) you place a X:boot/OEM1 into a Hard drive of your own( not the one that was purchased with or threw a cpu manufacturer but one you get at bestbuy, or online at amazon. The best is to use a WD external HD and pop it out of the plastic case. Your laptop must have recently flashed the most recent bios, then you can trick it into thinking its registered, by putting a new HD MBR using a UltBoot CD.iso (free on the internet) on the new HD purchased, external HD dont have one making them the easiest to utilize since you dont need to delete the old MBR or kill the disc back to 00 to get rid of that hidden X: partition. With the new HD/ new MBR inplace when you boot the PC the BIOS wont find the hidden X: partition company's put on it, will automatically bypass it and assume it was corrupted.
---DO NOT turn on automatic updates KEEP THE WIFI or LAN unplugged
------then go into start/
in box type cmd
MS-DOS box pops up
then type wmic
then is a whole list of commands using powershell to write in root level registries to the HD, then you gotta reboot and reinstall. Very long very hard for novice users, but for advanced users, its imperative for those of us who don't want to be traced or tracked.

Every new pc pretty much has a OEM, and every OEM is what ever you want it to be Home/Pro/Ultimate

You just need to find a OEM activated ISO Window7 or Vista CD from your cpu manufacturer Dell/HP use that same OEM company
Toshiba/ACER/Gateway/Lenovo all use the same OEM company - Even if its not for your pc, try it anyways you might get lucky, it might bypass and say ok this code is good enough. there all encrypted in 256-bit algorithms despite the code, inorder to communicate with systems HD's

I know this cause I was taken to court by Dell for unlocking there OEM/SLIC/BIOS/ and hidden X: partition so anyone can have whatever version they want without $$$ for it and delete Dell from tracing laptops. that's the way it should be.
Look it up, They discontinued my laptop cause of me the Studio1555. Sorry if this is rambled but in short....

[if] Dell Windows7 - Home Premium OEM.iso
then /{(I would need)}
=\ Dell Windows7 - Ultimate 64/32 bit<(32x86)> OEM.iso

BTW for anyone who wants to disagree, or write some crap back, don't say anything unless you have Slackware KDE/FreeDos subset or any UNIX subset system installed into your windows not a Virtual box, or USB boot or Dual boot, but a UNIX OS INSIDE the windows shell.... otherwise you don't know what your talking about...trust me, I have been messing/hacking/modding/ from hardware and software /programming cpus since I was 4 (26 now) and my dad put me in front of a Tandy from Radioshack DOS-DIR was all you needed to know. OK

You just need to find a OEM activated ISO with the version you want. BTW with a windows7 ultimate cd you can install whatever version you want from your cpu manufacturer. Ask around how to.

- InFamousD SithCoder


Well, you got a few things wrong.

He is trying to use a legitimate key with a different edition, so much of your advise doesn't apply.

It's called OEM SLP, not OEM.

It doesn't require the disk from the manufacturer. It requires the key, certificate, and bios table.

You CAN use the retail version because the key on the COA is NOT a SLP key. Just activate over the phone.

SLP is offline, and doesn't use servers.

It doesn't need the most recent bios. Just one with a SLIC table.

I seriously doubt the studio 1555 was discontinued because of you. This can be done with almost any system with a SLIC table.

Delete ei.cfg and a windows 7 disk will give you a menu of all editions. Or you could alter the ei.cfg to show only certain versions.

And yes, you did babel a bit. You could have summarized that entire book into two sentences:

----"Find a Dell windows disk and use it. It will activate automatically."----






September 18, 2011 6:38:06 AM

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