amd 6000x2 vs. e6600

[salobon]

which 1 is the best in all for gaming and overall??

 

[corvetteguy]

which 1 is the best in all for gaming and overall??

Performance stock is interchangable. Overclocked the e6600 is way beter. Upgradability, AMD prolly has better upgrade path.

If you go AMD, get x2 5600, its only 200mhz less and should overclock to as high as the 600 overclocks.

 

[epsilon84]

which 1 is the best in all for gaming and overall??

Performance stock is interchangable. Overclocked the e6600 is way beter. Upgradability, AMD prolly has better upgrade path.

If you go AMD, get x2 5600, its only 200mhz less and should overclock to as high as the 600 overclocks.

Why would someone get anything other than an X2 3600+ if you want to overclock an AMD? Considering the 2.8 - 3GHz overclocks that I'm seeing from the X2 3600+, it's a bargain. You won't get much beyond 3GHz with a 90nm K8 anyway.

When it comes to overclocking, either get a cheap AMD X2 3600+, or you get a C2D. It's that simple.

Speaking of upgradeability, now that P35 boards are out I don't see how it makes any difference? People argued (quite rightly) that previous gen P965 boards may not support Penryn, but now with the newer P35 boards having Penryn support how does AMD have a better upgrade path? If anything, it has a worse one because AM2 lacks a few key features from AM2+.

 

[Mandrake_]

E6600 is a bit faster. See this: http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/dualcore-roundup/charts/average.png

It'll run cooler and use a lot less power too (65W TDP vs 125W).

 

[Heyyou27]

Go with the 6000+ you WONT be disappointed ! Dont let the bandwagon Intel Fanboys fool ya, you wont see a visual difference between the 6600 and 6000+...Plus youll be ready for Phenom X2 with the same board!

Yeah, not only will the X2 6000+ perform as fast as the E6600, it'll use twice as much energy and put out twice the heat.

 

[EnigmaGY]

I’ve just been through the same decision process with a machine I was putting together for a friend.

We decided to opt for the E6600 because the 6000+ is about as fast as you’re going to get on AM2 so to upgrade its new mobo time.

The Intel option gave us the choice to use the Gigabyte GA_P35C_DS3R giving the option of going quad core or DDR3 with no wastage at a later date.

 

[Shizamaaur]

Penryn ready and that will likely out perform Phenom.

Professional guesser?

 

[n19htmare]

Hey whatever works for you,I can play any game at 1920 x 1200 maxed settings. My temps and power usage are just fine, thats overblown hype from Intel one sided Bs. My Cpu Core temps idle at 42C load 50C on air cooling 3.2 Ghz all day long...

Dude you got more lights and LEDs than a Techno dance club..... You could care less about power draw.

 

[mrmez]

6600 fo life.

Just to put another spin on this...
I game + vid and photo editing... so i got a 4300 (1.8) and OC to 3.1
At that speed its smashing a 6600.
For gaming tho... i see little difference between 1.8 and 3.5 (max ive had)
The 4300 will keep me happy for at least a year or so, then i can just plug in an intel quad and oc that too.

If u get the new intel mobo, i do believe it will serve better.

Building from scratch, i just CANT find a reason to suggest AMD over intel in the next year.

 

[Mandrake_]

thats overblown hype from Intel one sided Bs

Power consumption results. 6000+ uses ~50% more power than an E6600.

 

[Shizamaaur]

I don't think Barcelona will overtake this on the desktop.

This are still based on guesses brother. I may be wrong, but I don't know the future like you.

 

[leadtrombone]

The 6000+ and the e6600 run neck and neck but unless you going to overclock, it would depend on wheither you already have an am2 motherboard or not. If you don't go for the 6600. If you do have an AM2 board the go for the 6000+. I have a 6000+ overclock to 3.2 and working on 3.3. If I had it to do over again I would have gotten the 5600. and as far as heat issues go with my thermal right ultra 120 my temps have been 35 idle and 42 load. But this is just my opinion

 

[gOJDO]

for gaming E6600 is better, but overall the X2 6000+ is marginally faster.
If you are going to OC, then any OC-ed C2D will outperform the X2 6000+. The OC-ed E6600 will wipe the floor with the OC-ed X2 6000+ in every application known to man kind.
Also, the E6600 is consuming half of the energy 6000+ consumes, thus the E6600+ dissipates half the heat of 6000+. So your system with E6600 will require poorer cooling system and will be quieter.
Overall, the E6600 is much better choice than the X2 6000+.

 

[epsilon84]

for gaming E6600 is better, but overall the X2 6000+ is marginally faster.

Correction: In gaming they are pretty close, but overall the E6600 is slightly faster.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/dualcore-roundup_8.html

 

[C_deck]

the 6000+ will probably beat the e6600 running under a 64 bit os. i have a e6600, flip a coin because either will power any game for the next year.

 

[gOJDO]

the 6000+ will probably beat the e6600 running under a 64 bit os. i have a e6600, flip a coin because either will power any game for the next year.

actually, as epsilon84 pointed, the E6600 beats 6000+ in Vista 64bit.

 

[clairvoyant129]

Hey whatever works for you,I can play any game at 1920 x 1200 maxed settings. My temps and power usage are just fine, thats overblown hype from Intel one sided Bs. My Cpu Core temps idle at 42C load 50C on air cooling 3.2 Ghz all day long...

Overblown hype?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2duo-shootout_11.html#sect0

Every AMD CPUs are using more than twice the power of a C2D.


http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon64-x2-6000_4.html#sect0

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2duo-shootout_5.html#sect0

Oh, looks like the E6600 is fragging every AMD CPU.

Xbit sums it up perfectly,

Frankly speaking the launch of the new AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ processor is not a very big event. Until promising new cores based on K8L micro-architecture come out, AMD will hardly be able to surprise us with anything. After the launch of Intel Core 2 Duo processor family, AMD K8 micro-architecture turned pretty obsolete.

Oh wait let me guess, Xbit is an Intel paid pumper. Damn, there goes another one. Anand, Hexus, Legit etc etc all paid pumpers.

Pick up an E6600 and overclock it 3.6GHz. C2D at 3.6GHz will frag every K8 like there is no tomorrow.

 

[bfellow]

Using AMD-like comparisons,

if you compare the 6000+ and E6600 clock to clock, then the E6600 wins hands down.

6000+ stock speed: 3.0 ghz
E6600 stock speed: 2.4 ghz
6000+ TDP: 130W
E6600 TDP: 65W

 

[torque79]

I'd like to ask if the power consumption articles linked above included idle power consumption? I realize the intel proc is rated at a lower power consumption level, but that is only while the cpu is at full (or let's say significant) load level.

Unfortunately I'm at work so cannot check them myself, so I hope someone took the time to make sure those articles include substantial PC idle time in their power consumption benchmarks? From what I have read, the cool-n-quiet function for AMD processors is able to reduce their clockspeeds a lot lower than intels at idle, and can easily offset the full load power consumption numbers for someone who leaves their PC on sometimes and does not have it at full load 100% of the time it's turned on.

besides power consumption (which for most of us is just an interesting tidbit and far from a genuine concern), I agree with what most others have said that the intel proc is the overclock king by far, but the processors are unlikely to make any difference in your life if you keep them in stock speeds between 1 choice and the other. AMD used to be the clear value segment leader, but lately they are unable to provide better price/performance generally, especially if you consider overclocking.

 

[gOJDO]

Any 90nm X2 wastes more energy than E6600 when idle.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=2903&p=7

 

[Heyyou27]

I don't think Barcelona will overtake this on the desktop.

This are still based on guesses brother. I may be wrong, but I don't know the future like you.It's unlikely that Barcelona's clockspeed will scale high enough for them to overtake a 3.33GHz Penryn.

 

[Shizamaaur]

It's unlikely that Barcelona's clockspeed will scale high enough for them to overtake a 3.33GHz Penryn.

It is unlikely, but possible that's all I'm saying guys, not trying to spawn an argument here... keep an open mind... I just don't see how you guys can be leaning one way already against hardware we virtually know nothing about yet, in terms of performance. Unless?!! 8O :lol:

 

[Shizamaaur]

Intel has already shown us the goods, and all that has happened with AMD is the let slip a demo of POVray that shows no real improvement in IPC

One mess up and you people jump all over it. Give 'em a chance Jack, we need Barcelona to succeed.

 

[1Tanker]

Intel has already shown us the goods, and all that has happened with AMD is the let slip a demo of POVray that shows no real improvement in IPC

One mess up and you people jump all over it. Give 'em a chance Jack, we need Barcelona to succeed.Just because you need Barcy to succeed, doesn't automatically mean it will. :roll:

@ OP:I think this is a fair conclusion/summary. Both perform quite close to one another, and each has apps that it excels in..over the other. One point that i didn't see mentioned in this thread, is the importance of high-quality/fast RAM for AM2(slower RAM will degrade performance less on C2D). E6600 uses a good bit less power when running, whether it be load, or anything other than idle...the 6000+ is quite good at idle as CnQ is the superior throttle-clocking mechanism. Cheap mobo's are more widely available for AM2, yet cheap one's are available for C2D also....yet top-notch boards are comparitively priced for both. AM2 holds the promise of Quad-core upgradability, yet a good 965P does support current C2Q's and may support future Quad's..or better yet...P35 will support Penryn, and hopefully Nehalem. Overclocking is a blowout...no contest...Intel for sure. Not 100% on the prices in the US, but in Canada..i can (and did) get an E6600 cheaper than a 6000+. If you have an AM2 mobo already, you'd be foolish to go Intel....if you don't, there are many more things to consider, and your computing "style" if you will..or wants...will dictate which will suit you better. Of course, that leaves brand preference, and only you know which brand you prefer(if you do have a preference), and that will probably be the deciding factor for you and most people. GL

I tried to represent both in a fair fashion, and you may rebutt if you think i've wronged one or the other.

 

[Shizamaaur]

Yes, I know that, but in one benchmark you guys rip it apart. I meant we as the consumers need it to succeed for competition purposes to keep prices lower.