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New cpu/mobo ... old Ubuntu 10.04LTS on HDD

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November 29, 2012 4:23:50 PM

Gents:

I pulled-the-trigger on new 1240.v2/MSI_z77A-gd55/sata-DVD/8x2gig Crucial hardware. Assembly and dry-boot completed outside legacy tower case so putzy 650w power supply can push new components and legacy gtx_9400. Ubuntu 10.04LTS is installed on the 200G legacy HDD that used to run the removed M2N/AMD_5400 system.

Does Linux care what CPU and Mobo provides "home"? After re-assembly can I expect **issues** when I boot? **FYI** This new hardware will provide my test system for "re-imaging(?)" a Linux operating system. Yes I have respected AMDgurls warning to leave my perfectly happy U-10.04LTS/AMD_965 system alone!
November 29, 2012 4:36:50 PM

Is it possible to translate that into English?
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November 29, 2012 4:50:50 PM

Yes you might expect issues when running 10.04. It may not contain drivers for the new hardware.

Use the newest release, ubuntu 12.10 to avoid any issues...
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November 29, 2012 7:07:40 PM

Hummm...

Any chance of ol' 10.04 damaging the new component hardware: CPU, mobo, DVD or RAM? That would stop-the-game right.now.


skittle said:
Yes you might expect issues when running 10.04. It may not contain drivers for the new hardware.

Use the newest release, ubuntu 12.10 to avoid any issues...

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November 29, 2012 7:37:49 PM

damaging components? unlikely.

however it is more likely that things will just not work correctly.

Just install 12.10 and not worry about it
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November 30, 2012 12:36:37 AM

Thanks: I respect & appreciate your clear guidance. But damme ... I am curious, so I think I'll just wire up the sucker ... case open to let smoke escape ... and push the ON button. If the case ON-button works. Since my tower case is 2002 vintage its front panel wiring does not exactly match that of the MSI_gd55 wiring harness. But, I swapped a couple pins and got most "lanes" used ... still have dangling un-used front panel leads that say +/- 5 volts , but who knows? Still need to install the sata-DVD and fans ... yes I'm optimistic.

BTW: I would only swap to 12.04.1LTS for the short term. Blast off after lunch tomorrow.



skittle said:
damaging components? unlikely.

however it is more likely that things will just not work correctly.

Just install 12.10 and not worry about it

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November 30, 2012 12:57:23 AM

[ijack] Apologies for babble.

Situation is as follows: My production box is a robust and well_behaved U_10.04LTS/AMD_965 system. I depend for it for everything. The moderator of this group (AMD_gurl) suggested I **not** try upgrading such a useful & well-manned system. After some complaining I agree.

What to do? Answer. Leave #1 system alone! Upgrade my back-up seven (7) year old system with a new CPU, mobo, RAM and sata_DVD. I chose a moderate_cost, but high_value INTEL solution with Xenon CPU (1240.v2) and MSI_Z77A-gd55 mobo and a huge 16 gigs of crucial ram. Circuit simulations for my lectures justify such mixed-mode hardware & RAM extravagance.

Two items I do not touch because of expense: an 11 yo 19" LCD monitor and a GTX_9400 graphics card.

That said, a more complete agenda includes my experimenting with OS options other than Ubuntu. The Ubuntu/GNOME environs have got lots less friendly IMVHO over the last two years while my needs have expanded. I need a system affording low-risk experimentation and I picked prudent hardware for the task .

More clear?


Ijack said:
Is it possible to translate that into English?

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November 30, 2012 10:00:33 PM

WEll ... I got it mostly together and did boot. First to BIOS where **all** hardware appears to be recognized. I set boot-order CD/USB_key/HDD and set the sysfan temp at 55-C. Then save & EXIT; Ubuntu 10.04 came up properly and most system functions appear to work. Two items fail:

1) no CPU fan operation with a BIOS CPU_temp =72-C: rechecked fan connection and it seems fine.

2) no INTERNET connection with mobo ethernet port

Troubleshooting advice appreciated.
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December 1, 2012 12:14:49 AM

ubuntu 10.04 probably does not contain the proper drivers for your motherboard.

Here is a link, use it.
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
If you don't care for unity, go try xubuntu, kubuntu or linux mint

If you are still confused: STOP USING 2 YEAR OLD UBUNTU ON NEW HARDWARE
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December 1, 2012 1:06:10 AM

I doubt it will work, but there's no harm trying :) .

Perhaps your efforts should be more directed to Ubuntu Server Edition 12.04 LTS + MATE desktop in place of Ubuntu 10.04.

Apart from that, recursive hardware support is pretty rare.
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December 1, 2012 2:02:21 AM

I have done a couple tests that show Ubuntu is not **CLAIMING** the Ethernet port ... no drivers is a fair guess . So I have two choices:

1) DLoad a more modern Ubuntu, burn a DVD and install that OS in the new hardware hoping to pick-up MSI_gd55_eth hardware support. Since I update my systems promptly I am **shocked I say shocked** that the MSI_Z77A-gd55 is still not completely supported by Ubuntu. It's year old hardware!!

2) buy a NIC_card that fits in the new MSI mobo PCIe slots ( my old long PCI NIC_card does not!) and is supported by Ubuntu already.

3) ???

Good news is that after re-seating the CPU fan-cable pins the heatsink fan now spins happily away. I can't talk to anyone on the new system, but it will not vanish in a cloud of flames. I truly appreciate the advise and suggestions.



amdfangirl said:
I doubt it will work, but there's no harm trying :) .

Perhaps your efforts should be more directed to Ubuntu Server Edition 12.04 LTS + MATE desktop in place of Ubuntu 10.04.

Apart from that, recursive hardware support is pretty rare.

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December 1, 2012 4:29:04 AM

More modern Ubuntu LiveDVD and see if it detects your ethernet.
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December 1, 2012 3:01:10 PM

BigSK:

Your call was spot-on. Using your reference I DLoaded , burned .... and then installed U_12.04.1 in the new INTEL/MSI hardware. Automagically the mobo-eth internet connection **just worked**. Upgrades appeared and those + a few std_tools (RKHUNTER/CLAMAV etc...) have been brought over from the UBUNTU repos. Funny, OPERA does not seem to be on-da-list!

I can be optimistic as I add-back pieces of the older system (webcam/laserjet ...). The new Unity "face" of Ubuntu appears quite strange to me... strange, but not hostile. I figured to switch immediately to MATE, but Idunno now; I'll keep Unity around and see how my workflow and "discovery" progress. It's a long strange trip from my first sys ... an APPLE-2+ !

Thanks for your consideration, and straight-forward evaluation of my new-build ethernet problem ... brick walls are no fun. And many thanks also to our patient and persistent moderator Ms. AMD_gurl.


skittle said:
ubuntu 10.04 probably does not contain the proper drivers for your motherboard.

Here is a link, use it.
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
If you don't care for unity, go try xubuntu, kubuntu or linux mint

If you are still confused: STOP USING 2 YEAR OLD UBUNTU ON NEW HARDWARE

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December 1, 2012 3:31:23 PM

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