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Which should i get?

Total: 13 votes

  • 8600GT
  • 24 %
  • 8600GTS
  • 77 %
May 29, 2007 5:14:59 PM

I play at 1024x768 and i'm buying this from circuitcity (i have my reasons) but will a 8600GT be enough to run Supreme Commander,Medieval 2 and Age of Empires 3 with Maximum Settings or should i spend more and get the 8600GTS.

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May 29, 2007 5:23:47 PM

That is a pretty demanding game, if your choices are the 8600GT and 8600GTS I would go with the 8600GTS.


XFX Support
May 29, 2007 5:41:55 PM

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neither, get a decent card instead.
I ain't getting a 8800GTS 320MB,i can't spend the extra money.
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May 29, 2007 6:17:07 PM

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I play at 1024x768 and i'm buying this from circuitcity (i have my reasons) but will a 8600GT be enough to run Supreme Commander,Medieval 2 and Age of Empires 3 with Maximum Settings or should i spend more and get the 8600GTS.

8600GT should be enought at your resolution but that said 8600GTS wouldnt make much differance. I would only consider the 8600GTS if or when 512mb versions come as i understand the 8600GT will only be 256mb.
May 29, 2007 6:25:38 PM

Would probably be best to read a few reviews on each and see what you think would fit your needs best.
May 29, 2007 8:01:47 PM

Totally agree with StrangeStranger.
Something like the X1950XT would be a better buy.
Time for a
May 29, 2007 8:14:44 PM

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Totally agree with StrangeStranger.
Something like the X1950XT would be a better buy.
Time for a
I want dx 10 so that isn't a option.
May 29, 2007 8:16:49 PM

Why do you want something that is DX10?
May 29, 2007 8:21:32 PM

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Why do you want something that is DX10?
The eye candy obviously,but i'm not getting vista until the problems are fixed but i don't want to have to upgrade from a dx 9 card to a dx 10 card,it'll save me some trouble in the long run.
May 29, 2007 8:30:34 PM

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people like you don't deserve help, seriously.
Just because i'd rather get a dx 10 card now instead of later makes me not deserve help how?
May 29, 2007 8:40:13 PM

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Why do you want something that is DX10?
The eye candy obviously,but i'm not getting vista until the problems are fixed but i don't want to have to upgrade from a dx 9 card to a dx 10 card,it'll save me some trouble in the long run.
In all honesty, you won't get enough performance out of an 8600 to enjoy any 'eye candy' that DX10 might provide. A solid DX9 for the same price will far exceed the capabilities of an 8600 for the games you want to play now, and when DX10 games come out, sell it and upgrade to an 8800 or higher.
May 29, 2007 8:51:16 PM

Okay if the 8600's really suck i won't get one,but can a 7600GT get playable FPS and decent settings in the games i mentioned?
May 29, 2007 9:55:15 PM

I'm not buying online.
May 29, 2007 10:02:28 PM

Kaotao was just pointing out examples. He didn't say you had to buy it online.
May 29, 2007 10:27:08 PM

I'd reccommend going a step higher than the 7600GT, as the price doesnt increase too much considering the gains when moving to an x1950 pro/xt or a 7900GS. Cards around that price range are where the price/performance is at. Im not sure how well a 7600GT would hold up in those games either.
May 29, 2007 10:29:11 PM

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I'm not buying online.


Your money would be much better spent online through newegg, than through Circuit City. Do you have a gift card or store credit?
May 29, 2007 11:05:47 PM

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I'm not buying online.



Sounds like someone doesn't wanna save money. :tongue:


Tisk Tisk on your part.
May 30, 2007 12:07:11 AM

seriously buy online. Unless you have some amazing deals using employee pricing then Circuit City is just not worth it. Go to www.newegg.com otherwise because their prices are very, very good compared to retail store other than Fry's.
a b U Graphics card
May 30, 2007 1:15:19 AM

Another vote for "Neither, get a better card".

If you want to get the shiny stuff, go ahead, but it'll be a slide show.

The X1900XT for the same price outperforms the GF8600GTS and allows you higher resolutions and higher AA settings.

So that's your tradeoff. And playability in DX10 for that card will be low anyways, so you're going to find yourself playing at DX9 anyways for the majority of the "DX10 tack ontop of DX9" games out there.

Look at the overall performance in this review and make your own decision;
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce8...

So either get the GT and save your money while expecting mediocre performance; or get the X1900XT or cheap GF7900/X1950 series card and spend your money wisely...... Or..... skip this immediate generation and wait for the refreshes to come with 256bit memory and revised designs.
May 30, 2007 1:19:39 AM

Alright, you will seriously regret buying an 8600GTS or Gt if you buy one now. Using Direct X9 games as a baseline for how well the 8600 series performs you can probably take an educated guess that neither card will have the power to utilize Direct X10. Even if Direct X10 is optimized and most hardware level cards are now unified shaders, you need to remember your going to still need some serious power to actually get decent framerates. I own a 7600GT but I will be upgrading.

The 8600GTS is severely crippled, I would either go with an X1950 Pro or X1950XT because they are some of the best bang for the buck cards out their today. If not, save money and get an 8800GTS. Vista and DirectX10 wont be required until about 2-3 years from now, but until they buying an 8600GTS for Direct X10 performance is like putting the cart before the horse, you just don't do it.

If you go to several websites and look at the reviews, they will show you that the general informed opinion of the 8600 series is a major flop. Websites like Guru3D even say that the leap from a 7600GT to a 8600 was worse. They even recommended people with a 7900GS or 7600GT to hold on until something better comes out. Nvidia knows that the 8600 series is a flop and I hope they go back and make some serious changed to the card.

Moving onto buying online, if you were to go to a website like Newegg, Tigerdirect, Amazon, etc. You would be getting a lot better variety and be able to save some money in the long run. Even save yourself a lot of heartache if you were to go with Newegg, they have an excellent customer service. But if you really want to throw money down the drain for a APOC hardware that is seriously crippled go ahead, but we are advising you not to.
May 30, 2007 2:13:34 AM

Okay then hows a 7900GS OCed? Apart from the fact that it'll pwn the 8600's.

About buying online: I have gotten ripped off and scammed in the past,so i'm willing to pay a little extra money so i don't have to deal with the problems.
May 30, 2007 3:02:25 AM

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Okay then hows a 7900GS OCed? Apart from the fact that it'll pwn the 8600's.

About buying online: I have gotten ripped off and scammed in the past,so i'm willing to pay a little extra money so i don't have to deal with the problems.

7900GS doesnt pwn the 8600's its just better priced. I would even be hard pressed to say the 7900GS can even beat the 8600GT. Here is the biggest GPU benchmark review I can find with both the 8600's and the 7900GS.
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafikkarte...
May 30, 2007 2:43:44 PM

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Okay then hows a 7900GS OCed? Apart from the fact that it'll pwn the 8600's.

About buying online: I have gotten ripped off and scammed in the past,so i'm willing to pay a little extra money so i don't have to deal with the problems.

If you buy from a reputable merchant, that won't happen. If you buy from NewEgg, I can guarantee that won't happen.
May 30, 2007 3:40:31 PM

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About buying online: I have gotten ripped off and scammed in the past,so i'm willing to pay a little extra money so i don't have to deal with the problems.


Well, you won't get ripped off or scammed by newegg, but I can pretty much guarantee that you'll get ripped off by Circuit City. For less than $200 you can't get a better buy than this X1950XT...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
May 30, 2007 3:49:09 PM

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Why do you want something that is DX10?
The eye candy obviously,but i'm not getting vista until the problems are fixed but i don't want to have to upgrade from a dx 9 card to a dx 10 card,it'll save me some trouble in the long run.
In all honesty, you won't get enough performance out of an 8600 to enjoy any 'eye candy' that DX10 might provide. A solid DX9 for the same price will far exceed the capabilities of an 8600 for the games you want to play now, and when DX10 games come out, sell it and upgrade to an 8800 or higher.
This isn't always the case. 8600GT gets about +30% performs over 7600gt in supreme commander according to one set of bench marks i seen.
I just bought an 8600GT and i'm happy with it. Fan is silent, video playback of movies seems better than the older cards too.
Supreme commander got tried on my new PC and did rather well, all setting on max except err, shadows? Mind you that at 1280X1024.
I do think the card will not run the high end games that are about to come out well though but i think it will do ok to run them at lower resolutions and with less detail. I think alot of the games that will be coming out will have settings for the lowerend cards and will be playable in DX10 and this is where i think it will become a value for money card at least it will be able to run then, not well but ok.
May 30, 2007 4:00:57 PM

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Why do you want something that is DX10?
The eye candy obviously,but i'm not getting vista until the problems are fixed but i don't want to have to upgrade from a dx 9 card to a dx 10 card,it'll save me some trouble in the long run.
In all honesty, you won't get enough performance out of an 8600 to enjoy any 'eye candy' that DX10 might provide. A solid DX9 for the same price will far exceed the capabilities of an 8600 for the games you want to play now, and when DX10 games come out, sell it and upgrade to an 8800 or higher.
This isn't always the case. 8600GT gets about +30% performs over 7600gt in supreme commander according to one set of bench marks i seen.
I just bought an 8600GT and i'm happy with it. Fan is silent, video playback of movies seems better than the older cards too.
Supreme commander got tried on my new PC and did rather well, all setting on max except err, shadows? Mind you that at 1280X1024.
I do think the card will not run the high end games that are about to come out well though but i think it will do ok to run them at lower resolutions and with less detail. I think alot of the games that will be coming out will have settings for the lowerend cards and will be playable in DX10 and this is where i think it will become a value for money card at least it will be able to run then, not well but ok.
You've got your price points mixed up.
Cheapest 8600GT on NewEgg: $125
For $130, you can get an X1950Pro, an X1950GT or a 7900GS, all of which will easily beat an 8600GT. Also, my initial point, an 8600GT won't perform well enough in DX10 games to be able to 'enjoy' the eye candy. It'll be like buying an X1300 for Oblivion so you can use HDR and AA together.
May 30, 2007 6:26:26 PM

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You've got your price points mixed up.
Cheapest 8600GT on NewEgg: $125
For $130, you can get an X1950Pro, an X1950GT or a 7900GS, all of which will easily beat an 8600GT. Also, my initial point, an 8600GT won't perform well enough in DX10 games to be able to 'enjoy' the eye candy. It'll be like buying an X1300 for Oblivion so you can use HDR and AA together.

Agreed, I believe playing DirectX10 games on 8500/8600series is like to play Oblivion or S.T.A.L.K.E.R. on a GeForce6600(non-GT) & i must mention that Supreme Commander is not that GPU-Limited game as it's a complex RTS game witch means the game-play experience is more depends on CPU than Graphic card!
May 30, 2007 9:44:23 PM

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Okay then hows a 7900GS OCed? Apart from the fact that it'll pwn the 8600's.

About buying online: I have gotten ripped off and scammed in the past,so i'm willing to pay a little extra money so i don't have to deal with the problems.

If you buy from a reputable merchant, that won't happen. If you buy from NewEgg, I can guarantee that won't happen.I don't know why you keep on trying to get me to buy online,when some people like me have their reasons why they won't/can't buy online.
May 30, 2007 10:33:22 PM

We're trying to help you get the most bang for your buck, which you most definitely won't get from Circuit City. If you don't want to get ripped off or scammed, buy through newegg, not Circuit City.
May 30, 2007 10:40:24 PM

You may consider be biased but i NEVER had ANY problems with circuitcity,enough said.
May 30, 2007 11:19:46 PM

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I play at 1024x768 and i'm buying this from circuitcity (i have my reasons) but will a 8600GT be enough to run Supreme Commander,Medieval 2 and Age of Empires 3 with Maximum Settings or should i spend more and get the 8600GTS.


supcom hmm what cpu do you have thats more important for that still i would get a 8800gts320 if i were to buy now
a b U Graphics card
May 30, 2007 11:26:29 PM

Ok the real question is how much are you willing to pay buying it from retail ? They do have a 8800GTS EVga OC for $320 with a 20$ rebate so only costing you $300 which is the same price as evga website (MSR). So Post what is the most you can spend on the card too.
May 30, 2007 11:26:51 PM

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You may consider be biased but i NEVER had ANY problems with circuitcity,enough said.



Yeah, except getting burned by their outrageous prices. They'll have the occasional sale however.


With buying online, all of us here at least from the states have had at least 1 experience from buying from e-tailers such as Newegg, TigerDirect, and ZipZoomFly. They all are responsible and reliable sellers. Take it from any of us. Newegg I would say is the big favorite to us American computer shoppers, so I'd shop there for any bargain.

Worse case scenario from buying online: The part comes defective, in which you have to RMA it. Newegg has a painless and easy process with this, so rest assured.


If you are somehow scammed by one of the stores I have selected in my statement, advise us. Because that will be the first time that we've ever seen.


So if you think paying 50-60 bucks more on something just because you think you won't get ripped off or scammed, then think again buddy.


Otherwise, good luck. :D 
May 30, 2007 11:36:19 PM

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You may consider be biased but i NEVER had ANY problems with circuitcity,enough said.


Hey man, you asked for help. You may not have has any "problems" with Circuit City, but apart from the occasional deal, you're going to get ripped off. Like Mr. Enforcer said, many of us use newegg and haven't had any problems, and I wouldn't recomend them if I had. If you want to spend a lot more than you have to, that's your business, but for the price I can't recomend anything from there. :roll:
May 31, 2007 4:45:58 PM

Here is the problem with circuitcity. Their EVGA none OCED cost $149.99 + Tax $10 then you get $10 off from rebate.
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/eVGA-e-GeForce-8600-GT-2...

Newegg has the same GPU for $139.99 + $5.64 shipping. Your Tax is going to cost more than shipping and finally Newegg has a $15 rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Circuitcity cost $149.99 and Neweggs $130.63.

The only reason I can see you wanting to buy from Circuitcity would be if you get an employee discount.

This aside Circuitcity does have a good deal on the 8800GTS 320 for $269.99.
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/EVGA-e-GeForce-8800-GTS-...
Newegg's price on the 8800GTS 320 is the same for 269.99 but again shipping is less than the tax's at Circuitcity.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you want a good deal for Circuitcity buy the 8800GTS 320.
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