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8500GT OR X1650 ?

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June 1, 2007 8:27:55 PM

Which one should I buy?

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I am building a New Rig and thus I am considering buying a Graphics Card.

Should I go for

ATI X1650 512 MB - £45

OR

NVIDIA 8500GT SONIC EDITION 256 MB - £43



Any input would be appreciated.

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June 1, 2007 8:56:18 PM

Keep in mind there is a difference between the X1650, X1650 Pro and X1650 XT. I prefer the X1650 XT and I just ordered one (the passive iSilence II) and to me it's the minimum I would buy. Games will still play on those cards but you can't really put things on max on the latest games.

The 8500 GT is DX10.
June 1, 2007 9:26:02 PM

I'd say the 1650, if you can find one that is 256MB that's cheaper then you should go with that.
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June 1, 2007 9:41:27 PM

If you're in the UK then i'd consider getting the Gainward 8500GT. Gainward's 8500 GT is much faster than the standard card as it comes with the GPU clocked @600Mhz, GDDR3 Mem @1200Mhz & a silent cooler for £60.

I have 1 and the performance is very good (especially with HD video playback) and about on par with a 7600GT but with the extra 8 series features.

Here's a link to the card for sale at komplett:
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.aspx?sku=334545
June 1, 2007 10:45:42 PM

The X1650 I see is just listed as X1650. It's specs are shown as
Core: 600MHz, Memory 800MHz ( Could it be 800MHz X 2 ?? )

No info given on Brand or anything else. Have to call them up for more info.

The 8500GT Sonic (OCed) I see is by XPERTVISION. Specs are :
Core: 600MHz Memory clock : 1.2GHz RAMDAC 400MHz

Having read this review at http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/452
, I feel inclined to go with the X1650.
In that review, the 8500GT seems to be performing at X1300 Levels! :lol: 
June 1, 2007 11:31:10 PM

but thats a review of the ddr2 one wont a ddr3 8500gt be faster then a ddr2 x1650
June 2, 2007 12:44:37 AM

Holy Cow! 3 only remain.

Need to make a quick decision guys...
June 2, 2007 12:47:31 AM

Avoid the 8500 and 8600Gt. The 8600GT is slower than the 7600GT.

Pick up a X1950 pro. A little more but worth every penny.
June 2, 2007 1:41:57 AM

Quote:

So, final question .. should I go for speed OR Capacity?

THE X1650 has more RAM.... hmmm...


512MB is a waste on those cores (8500, X1650). 256MB is enough at this level.

I agree with fredgiblet about trying to find a 256MB X1650, which will be cheaper and perform just as good.

I also agree with caamsa about the X1950Pro, if you can stretch your budget for it.
June 2, 2007 10:02:54 AM

All the 256 MB X1650's I find are the same price as the 512MB X1650! :lol: 

The X1950 is definitely a NO! Can't afford that.
June 2, 2007 10:21:41 AM

Damn! Just checked and the 8500GT Sonic is no more in Stock. The normal 8500GT's that are now available are DDR2 and core : 450 MHz and Clock - 800MHz.

So, the X1650 it is then?
June 2, 2007 11:49:40 AM

u can get them from overclockers if you want. if u wait a week theyll come back in stock. also can u give us a link to what x1650 you went for if you do go for that as im in the same boat as i need to choose between the 2
June 2, 2007 12:56:35 PM

can't you just wait till you can afford at least a x1650xt or a 7600gt?

Why so much hurry?
June 2, 2007 1:04:03 PM

HALO 2!

:) 
June 2, 2007 1:11:53 PM

Quote:
Avoid the 8500 and 8600Gt. The 8600GT is slower than the 7600GT.

Pick up a X1950 pro. A little more but worth every penny.


Why you think the 8600gt is slower than the 7600gt? There was only 1 benchmark site wich showed that, and that is also the reason why i dont believe that site. But the 8600gt is definatly faster then the 7600gt :wink:

But on topic, i would pick the 1650 because i read a benchmark about the 8500gt and the scores sucked :?
June 2, 2007 1:13:03 PM

will a 7600gs be faster then a 8500gt ddr3 sonic?
June 2, 2007 1:19:40 PM

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will a 7600gs be faster then a 8500gt ddr3 sonic?


Don't think so...
June 2, 2007 1:47:29 PM

Depends what you want to do with it.

For the latest video playback technology, get the 8500GT. It's absolute crap for gaming though, slower than a 6600GT.

An X1650XT would be closer to a 8600GT in terms of gaming performance, while an X1650Pro is somewhere in-between. So, for gaming, the X1650 is better.

The amount of memory doesn't make any difference for these cards.
PS: a 8600GT is much faster than a 7600GT. :roll: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2970&p=6
June 2, 2007 2:13:47 PM

were u planning to get them from ebuyer by any chance?
June 2, 2007 2:50:35 PM

X1650 from Aria.
June 2, 2007 3:14:05 PM

can someone confirm this but arent the x1650 ddr2 versions much slower then their ddr3 counterpart
June 2, 2007 3:21:38 PM

Quote:
Avoid the 8500 and 8600Gt. The 8600GT is slower than the 7600GT.

Pick up a X1950 pro. A little more but worth every penny.


Why you think the 8600gt is slower than the 7600gt? There was only 1 benchmark site wich showed that, and that is also the reason why i dont believe that site. But the 8600gt is definatly faster then the 7600gt :wink:

But on topic, i would pick the 1650 because i read a benchmark about the 8500gt and the scores sucked :?


Well if you don't believe the test then that is on you. Google and you will find many tests and most sites say the 8500 and 8600gt are not worth it. Here are a few links.


http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=637


http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=514&card2...

with this link look below the page for info on testing and benchmarks.
June 2, 2007 3:27:25 PM

It is better to spend a little more and get the better card that will last you longer then settle for a lesser card you are going to wish you never purchased. Trust me I have done it before........never again. Get a card with 256 mb memory with 256bit and DDR3


Stay away from those sub par cards. :wink:
June 2, 2007 3:58:18 PM

I'd definitely go with the radeon8500.
June 2, 2007 4:53:00 PM

The link you provided from legion hardware is EXACTLY the benchmark that i dont believe. If you look at the link from Dr_Asik, those are some better benchmarks. I've looked at many benchmarks on the internet and compared them to each other and the one from legion hardware was just crap.

And the sites that say that the 8500gt and the 8600gt aren't worth the money where mostly from the time that these cards where just released. I bought my 8600gt for €130, wich isnt much, considering the 1950pro is stil around 180-200 here in Holland.
June 2, 2007 6:20:34 PM

I guess you need to take in consideration where you live. The X1950 pro here in the USA is about $115.00. I just think if he can afford it and has a decent processor to drive it don't go for the entry level card. That would be like buying a 6200 when the 6600GT came out or getting the 7300GT when the 7600GT came out. If he wants to play a decent frame rates and be happy with his card he should spend a little more and get a card with at least 256mb of memory with 256bit memory and DDR 3.

Unless you have a slow machine or a really restricted budget then get the best card you can which in his case might be the 8500GT. I regret getting budget cards in the past. I have a 7950GT now and am very happy with it. :wink:
June 2, 2007 6:27:04 PM

Yeah for that money its a easy one. I dont want to spend €200 on a graphics card. I rather buy a €100 once a year and sell the old one for something like €60 or €70...

I noticed that for dx10 you dont have to buy a dx10 gpu, because dx10 is still crap and i wonder if its ever going to be good :?
a b U Graphics card
a b Î Nvidia
June 2, 2007 6:43:13 PM

Quote:
I'd definitely go with the radeon8500.


Nah it's only DX8.1.
It was a great card in it's day but not worth considering now, other than it has truform unlike the others.

I'd say the geforce 8500 would be better than the radeon nowadays.

But if you wanna buy an R8500 for the price of the others, I can probably get you one for that price. :twisted:
June 2, 2007 8:41:07 PM

Thanks for your help guys.

You know what? My wallet is a bit dry at the moment. I'll start working again and slowly buy the parts for my New Rig over the next month.

At the end of that, I'll choose the last component for my Rig > The Graphics Card. Hopefully, Prices might have come down then.

I am thinking of these specs

C2D E4300 / E6300
2GB DDR2 667
COOLERMASTER 400W
XBLADE CASE ( Have it already )
ABIT IP-95 Mobo
Maxtor SATA 250 GB
20X DVDRW
Gfx Card*
June 2, 2007 9:18:19 PM

Quote:
I'd definitely go with the radeon8500.


Nah it's only DX8.1.
It was a great card in it's day but not worth considering now, other than it has truform unlike the others.

I'd say the geforce 8500 would be better than the radeon nowadays.

But if you wanna buy an R8500 for the price of the others, I can probably get you one for that price. :twisted:

lol. naw, man i was joking. I saw that nVidia was puttin out an 8500 and it just brought back memories.
June 2, 2007 10:10:45 PM

Quote:
I'd definitely go with the radeon8500.


Nah it's only DX8.1.
It was a great card in it's day but not worth considering now, other than it has truform unlike the others.

I'd say the geforce 8500 would be better than the radeon nowadays.

But if you wanna buy an R8500 for the price of the others, I can probably get you one for that price. :twisted:

lol. naw, man i was joking. I saw that nVidia was puttin out an 8500 and it just brought back memories.

I have an old ATI 9100 same thing as the ATI 8500 so if your heart is set on one let me know. :wink:
June 2, 2007 11:15:44 PM

is it for games??? or for anything else????? because if it's for games and you have windows "vista" then you should go for a DX10 card because for what i've read, DX10 cards doesnt perform as well as a DX9 in windows XP
June 3, 2007 10:28:09 PM

Guys, I just bought an CONNECT3D X1600XT 256 MB for £33.

Was it a good choice ?
June 3, 2007 10:37:20 PM

how fast it is?? what type of memory has?? (DDR2 or DDR3?)
June 3, 2007 10:43:33 PM

The big question is are you happy with it? If you are then you made a good decision.

Have fun.

How much is #33 in comparson to dollars? Sorry American keyboard. :wink:
June 3, 2007 10:44:39 PM

that would be $65.4 :p  (currently at £1= $1.98212)
June 3, 2007 10:45:46 PM

That is a good price for that card. :wink:
June 4, 2007 12:03:59 AM

Btw, It's GDDR3 !!! :D 
June 4, 2007 8:40:28 AM

can i ask where you got it from?
June 4, 2007 9:13:19 AM

Quote:
can i ask where you got it from?


EBAY ! :lol: 
June 4, 2007 10:48:55 AM

Thanks for the link , Caamsa.

Btw, is the Memory speed 700 MHz or 1.4 GHz ??? :roll:
June 4, 2007 1:05:45 PM

700 rated, 1400 DDR. same thing
June 4, 2007 5:04:22 PM

Quote:
I'd definitely go with the radeon8500.


Nah it's only DX8.1.
It was a great card in it's day but not worth considering now, other than it has truform unlike the others.

I'd say the geforce 8500 would be better than the radeon nowadays.

But if you wanna buy an R8500 for the price of the others, I can probably get you one for that price. :twisted:

lol. naw, man i was joking. I saw that nVidia was puttin out an 8500 and it just brought back memories.

I have an old ATI 9100 same thing as the ATI 8500 so if your heart is set on one let me know. :wink:

Nah, i'm all good. If i need to, I can revert back to my gullimont/hercules GF2GTS 32MB. Just saw it layin' around yesterday. We need more cards with blue heatsinks.
June 7, 2007 8:43:24 PM

The ebay Seller sent me an X1600PRO 512 MB by mistake.

He's gonna send me my XT one soon.

Now, Does anyone in the UK want to have the Used X1600PRO 512 MB CLUB for £38 incl. p&P ?

Get in touch with me asap.
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