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Cam8755   06-02-2007 at 12:47:16 AM

I am attempting to replace an older workstation that has a 3Dlabs Wildcat III 6110 card in it and I just wanted to make sure that this card does not do anything special that the current variety of cards don't do today. It seems to me that nearly all of the more recent cards are much better than this one.

The workstation is used primarily to run ImageStation 5.1. ANY information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

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AAArDvArK   06-02-2007 at 05:14:46 PM
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We used to have one of those at work, I did not use it but I do know that its an OpenGL 3D Graphics Board designed for developers, so you definately can not upgrade to a consumer product like a Radeon or a GeForce.

Your options are :

http://ati.amd.com/products/firegl.html

http://www.nvidia.com/page/workstation.html


That specific model is five years old, you can expect huge increases in performance if you upgrade even to a lower end model, rendering can take 10 times less time if on the better cards.


If the whole system is five years old+ you might need to upgrade the whole thing for the higher end cards.

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Cam8755   06-02-2007 at 07:39:22 PM
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Thanks for the info. I am planning on replacing the whole system and I did not want to end up making the mistake you just saved me from making.

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AAArDvArK   06-02-2007 at 11:14:40 PM
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My pleasure, I have been helped so many times on these forums I am glad I could do the same for someone else.

When you do decide to replace your system make sure you post here what card you chose so the more expirienced members can help you choose a suitible power supply, stable motherboard etc etc. In your case a good processor is a must as the graphics card doesnt work alone and you dont want your cpu being your bottle neck.

Good news is you can build an entire system for around a grand that would blow you away, just make sure your video crad choice is either a FireGL or Quatro.

We have this one at work and its good I'm told:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814195012

coupled with an Intel E6600 and 2gb DDR2 800 ram and a WD 500 gb 7200 RPM HD. Costs about 900 USD plus motherboard.


Do let me know if you do buy a system, would be interested in what you settle on.

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senor_bob   06-03-2007 at 01:39:56 AM
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Quote :

We used to have one of those at work, I did not use it but I do know that its an OpenGL 3D Graphics Board designed for developers, so you definately can not upgrade to a consumer product like a Radeon or a GeForce.

Your options are :

http://ati.amd.com/products/firegl.html

http://www.nvidia.com/page/workstation.html


That specific model is five years old, you can expect huge increases in performance if you upgrade even to a lower end model, rendering can take 10 times less time if on the better cards.


If the whole system is five years old+ you might need to upgrade the whole thing for the higher end cards.


Actually, you can use a GeForce or Radeon if you want to, although the Quadro and FireGL are better optimized for workstation apps. the GF and Radeon support OpenGL as well as DirectX/Direct3D. Supposedly the R600 (HD2900XT) is very good at some workstation tests, maybe TheGreatGrapeApe could fill you in on that. Seriously some CAD tools (solidworks for example) run better on my 8800GTX at home than they do on the older FireGLs at work. Compared to the ancient 3DLabs (they don't even make graphics cards anymore) card any modern card, pro or home, would be a big upgrade, especially a nice Quadro or FireGL.

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AAArDvArK   06-03-2007 at 02:45:46 AM
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Really? hmm.

I thought hardware accelaration was the key here. I remember reading some where about how the say Quatro has a totally different architecture than the GeForce and support all the latest WS technologies.

As I understand it a midranged Quadro FX 5600 would outperform 8800GTX in WS aplications.

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senor_bob   06-03-2007 at 06:10:30 AM
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The Quadro is a derivative of the GF, usually with more RAM and different drivers, but the GPU is almost the same. The Quadro (and FireGL) will outperform their GF and Radeon cousins in WS apps for sure, I was just pointing out that the consumer cards WILL work for WS apps if you have to use them, just as you CAN play games on a Quadro or FireGL, although in both cases you're better off using the cards for what they were designed for.

As far as I know, a Quadro FX5600 (which is hardly midrange, it's the highest Quadro without being multiple cards like the Quadro Plex line) is essentially an 8800GTX with 1.5 GB of RAM instead of the normal 768MB and of course the OpenGL centered drivers, but it has the same G80 GPU at the core. See how they look compared to each other, the quadro has a spiffy metal stiffener bracket and the power supply is slightly larger (the part outside the heatsink shroud) but you can see the similarity.


8800GTX:
http://www.beareyes.com.cn/2/lib/200612/13/039/IMG_9048.jpg
Quadro5600:
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u38/senor_bob/quadro5600.jpg

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AAArDvArK   06-03-2007 at 06:25:40 AM
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oh ok |I see, I misunderstood your first post.

Thats very interesting about the 5600 having a G80 core. Thanks for the info, I used to believe they were radicaly different products.

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