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Profile: journeyman
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I was looking at:
This anti static mat
for my first build. Are these really necessary? The last thing I'd want to do after spending $1300 is fry my system! :?

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Profile: newbie
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I wouldn't have thought you'd need one; most modern components are fairly resistant to static. Then again, it doesn't cost much, and if it makes you more confident, go for it.

Profile: newbie
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Hey,
I have never worried about anti static devices while building a pc before. I think its somewhat overhyped. This doesnt mean that you shouldnt take care. When installing components, always choose a good place to hold them. For instance, you only want to hold ram by placing a finger on each far edge. If you do this with your cpu, motherboard, ram and expansion cards you will be fine. Also, regularly run your hands over the chassis that ur putting the components in. This will help discharge any possible static buildup.

Profile: old hand
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not really, as long as you periodically ground yourself while building you should be fine. Actually they say you need an anti static mat every time you do anything with a computer, but you don't see dell selling them with the computer.

Profile: Faithful Poster
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I've built tons of computers on a carpet in my living room and never shocked a single component. Really really really don't bother with any anti-stat devices, they're pointless.

You shouldn't be putting bare fingers on RAM chips or CPU dies anyway, so just hold stuff by the corners and you'll be totally fine.

Don't worry about it!

Profile: journeyman
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awesome - thanks guys!

Profile: Honorary Poster
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If your concern about static, get one of the wrist straps. Or just touch the PS every time you touch or add ram or hardware. SCSI cards are sensitive, but thats the only one I know of.

I've used the mats on PC keyboards where static is a problem with the carpet (wool). Gives you east way to dispate the charge. The Old Apple's use to be very sensitive to static. If you did not use one you could easily knock one out. But that was 15+ years ago. Most of the hardware these days are not sensitive. If you are going to be doing board level repair, it would be a good idea.

Profile: nimble knuckle
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I just built my brother a $1500 PC on my living room carpet, and didn't fry a thing (although the MB was DOA). Touch the PSU before picking up a component, pick it up using the corners of the PCB, not the metal contacts, and dont do stupid things like rub your feet on the carpet. You'll be fine.

Profile: old hand
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touching the PSU can be a little dangerous especially if someone didn't install a capacitor right 8O , so I would suggest using the bare metal of the case, being that the case doesn't use high power. :P

Profile: addict
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touching the PSU can be a little dangerous especially if someone didn't install a capacitor right Shocked , so I would suggest using the bare metal of the case, being that the case doesn't use high power. Razz



Being that the case and PSU are directly connected together, touching either one will have the same effect.

Profile: Honorary Poster
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If the power receptcal is not wired correctly it want matter what you touch. The PS is still grounded to the case. But if its a plexiglass case you must touch the PS.

Profile: old hand
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Generally, I find I have more room if I install the power supply last. But I think of it this way; the psu is like a CRT monitor, the capacitors in both can hold allot of power, even when not connected. If you have a plexiglass case then find something that holds less power to ground yourself on.

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Generally, I find I have more room if I install the power supply last. But I think of it this way; the psu is like a CRT monitor, the capacitors in both can hold allot of power, even when not connected. If you have a plexiglass case then find something that holds less power to ground yourself on.


Capacitors can only shock you if you touch both terminals at once. The risk of that happening from touching the chassis is nil - if the two cap terminals did simultaneously touch chassis somehow (requiring broken wires in your PSU) they'd just discharge the cap (probably violently) not shock the user. The PSU chassis is grounded specifically to protect you and it grounds the computer case through being bolted together.

Note that actually sticking your hands IN the power supply is an extremely stupid idea and will probably get you shocked, but touching the chassis is fine.

Profile: Ancient Poster
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static schmatic - when your makin your system just build it good and dont over worry bout it, and obviously, dont like put your sticky mits all over everything ;)

she be fine

Profile: journeyman
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For my first build which was not that long ago I just used some laytex gloves and did the build on my kitchen table.

Profile: member
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I'm going to get flamed for this most likely but anyway, I wouldnt say that using an anti static mat is needed however I would advocate some sort of anti static precautions.

I have been suprised to learn how few people realise that components rarely fail immediatly due to ESD but may fail months later starting many "Ive had 3 company X components fail in 4 years what a crap company" type threads.

Voltages that are not even detectable by human hands can be enough to ESD a component so most of the time you wont even know you have damaged something(cant remember the exact figures though will endevour to find out if you would like).

So if you are going to build your own system try to do so while standing on a wooden floor not on carpet(this is right up there with using a vacuum cleaner to remove dust from a system to varying degree depending on the carpet).

Either buy an anti static strap or consistently keep one hand on the chassis as this ensure you are grounded.

try not to let your clothing come into contact with system parts as they often generate static.

Keep the device in the bag until you are ready to use it.
If you have components unpakaged leave them at least sitting on the antistatic bags they came with dont just randomly put them on the floor or something while installing a different part.

There is a reason profesionals follow antistatic procedures.

However please dont only listen to me I'm sure someone else who follows basic antistatic procedures will reply soon.

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