I am trying to explain to my friend that by using these programs that it is not making his machine faster.. ( he has a Q6600 and 4GB of ram. he is insistent that he knows better. here is an excerpt from one of our conversations:
Me:
I am tellign you that the memory manager in vista/XP is much better than xp and those managers free ram that the os uses for other things.. and the os RELEASES ram when needed
Him
i know what i use and i know that it works for what i need it for or else i wouldn't use it. i'm more of a software speed person... and i don't know how to overclock
Me
you just don't get it.. you are taking the cache and flushing it.. which actually slows down your computer by having to read the data back to ram when needed... just to have free ram at the desktop. that is stupid.this has nothing to do with overclcocking
Him
when i flush it... even when i run a program it stays below what it was by alot
Please someone who knows the innards of the os explain to me in a way that will convince him he is wrong?
Where can I begin.
Xp and Vista are different and yet the same.
Stopping a program that you arent using will help free up some memory in both versions.
Gaming for example (not on internet) you should turn off everything that you can that the game doesnt need including AV, firewall etc in order to free memory.
You are correct in that the memory will refill with what it needs and deleting what is in there can and will cause corruption if a necessary program cant find what it needs.
Optimizers were marginally useful in the day of win me and 98 mainly due to the poor programming skills of the creators.
Now they cause more harm than good. Oddly due to poor programming again.
There are many services that can be turned off that are never used by the average user that will also free up some memory.
www.blackviper.com
As for the overclock portion of your post:
That is very different.
It can yeild many benifits dependind on the machine, it is something that you need to know a lot about before doing it or you can turn your machine into a brick.
Oh i am full aware of overclocking.. ( look at my sig) and he is as well, (although he never has done it )however due to him having an off the shelf system, he doesn't have that luxury..
he has it in his mind that his computer is faster since he installed this free ram optimizer. and of course people in the know are ware that this is just the placebo effect..
he never gave vista a chance to learn how he uses his computer... and even put it down cuz he uses over 300 dif programs and how could vista ever learn to preload the apps that he will use.. and why does he want stuff in the ram that he wouldn't use...
I have also explained to him how vista's memory management works and frees ram that is needed for an app or game that is not in ram.
Thank you for your response... i will direct him to this thread so he can read this himself..
Message edited by Hard Line on 09-21-2009 at 12:43:47 PM
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Also be sure to turn off both indexing and search in Vista in order to quicken the system.
I have been running XP and Vista for a couple of years and I run things like crysis, Cod, and MS Flight Sim X in both systems. Trust me I stress them and Vista comes out on top.