I am worried about my case temps

I have :
AMD 5200+ @2.8Ghz stock cooler
EVGA 590SLI Mobo
2 120mm Rosewill case fans - 1 in front on bottom and 1 in top rear
1 80mm Rosewill side case fan - blowing in toward cpu
one hard drive
7600GT
Logisys Dracula Case

These temps are under idle - just running internet etc....


Speedfan reports the temps as:

System - 52C
CPU - 52C
AUX - 54C
Core - 34C

Everest Ultimate says this:

Mobo - 52C
CPU - 52C
Core1 - 38C
Core2 - 33C
Aux - 53C
GPU diode - 61C

Motherboard Monitor 5 does not support EVGA boards

Nvidia Ntune will not run - I am running Vista Ultimate

Any ideas?

Is the CPU temp important or the Core temp?

I don't know if this would help - What about the Yate Loon 120mm D12SL-12 case fans?

If I replaced the existing ones with these, would it help? They seem to be well reviewed on the web.....

I wonder if it is my case, or if it is the monitoring software, or possibly the fans.... I'll post a link for pics on the case and try to find details on the fans

Here is a link with pics of the case without my system installed - for some reason I can't upload pics.....



http://www.systemcooling.com/logisys_dracula-04.html

and

http://www.overclockercafe.com/Rev [...] a/pg3.html


Here is the link for my case fans

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835200006



However, my cable management is good, and I don't think that is the problem.

You can see from the pics that the lower front I have a 120mm mounted, and another on the upper rear.

I have removed the mesh from the case behind the rear fan to allow more air to be blown out.

Any help?

Bump

nope - they are just idle - i think that the system, cpu and aux are the same sensor - under load they dont change - my core temp changes but the others stay pretty much the same - maybe a few degrees different....

Just to state the obvious, but have u got the orientation correct ie. the air flow going in the right direction.

In general:

Exhaust - Top and Back
Intake - Bottom and Front (and sides possibly but i think u could debate this one)

So just give a wee check on each fan, a simple method i sometimes use is a small piece of light paper, if sticks to the fan grill then its intake else probably exhaust.

Other than that, are u living in the Sahara by chance

Yes, this is the one thing that occurred to me; be sure the lower front fan is an INTAKE, not an exhaust. I'm assuming you've made sure they're turning at a proper rate of speed, and any grills or filters aren't plugged with cat hair.

Your case is high on bling, but low on cooling. Only one 120mm input and one 120mm output (plus side &psu) does not seem like much for a hot cpu & vga card. I can think of two options:
1) Replace the 120mm fans with higher capacity units. The price is added noise.
2) Replace the vga cooler with this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835186130
arctic cooling NV6 rev-2. Reports are that it fits the 7600GT nicely. The advantage is that it expels the vga's hot air out the back instead of recirculating it. I used a similar option an a machine a while back, and it reduced case, cpu and vga temperatures nicely. This will not void your EVGA warranty; just save the old cooler to reinstall in case you need to send it back.

I have a 80mm side fan and my psu has a 120mm fan on it..... Whick capacity would be good? I was looking at these Yate Loon fans.

http://www.jab-tech.com/YATE-LOON- [...] -3771.html


http://nexfan03.stores.yahoo.net/s [...] sl-12.html


I am buying a Ultra 120 Extreme cooler and planning to mount two of either in a push pull config, and replacing the other two case fans when I do....


With 4 fans, would that be sufficient?


Also, right now, the front fan is set for intake, and the rear fan is exhaust.
The side 80mm is intake and the psu is exhaust.


Any other ideas?

If your case temperature is hot, then the best that a very good cpu cooler can do is approach the case temperature plus 5c or so. Don't count on the PSU fan; it's job is to protect itself, not ventilate the case, and will speed up only when things have gotten too hot already. Put something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835705004 a high speed 114 cfm panaflo fan in front and rear. Be warned, it will be noisy. Also remember that the best case temperature will always be hotter than the room temperature. Can you turn down the heat in the room? The 80mm fan can vary from 20cfm to 80 cfm for a real screamer; it is probably not helping much. Both of the fans you referenced are good, but they do not do much cooling; they are for being quiet. For $17 or so, use the NV silencer I referenced on your vga card before you spend more on anything else. You need to get the case temperatures under control before a better cpu cooler can do any good.

First you need to test whether it's your airflow that's the problem. Take the side off of the case and see if temps go down.

I did that

I took a small desk fan ( about 10 inches in diameter )

I took off the side of the case and put the fan right next to it on high...

It only dropped the temps about 2 degrees Celcius

I wonder if I might just have a bad temp probe on the mobo...

This is what I am trying....

I bought 4 of these

http://www.jab-tech.com/YATE-LOON- [...] -3771.html

And I will mount one for intake, one for exhause and one on this....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835109140

The airflow on the 120 extreme will blow towards the back of the case and toward the exhaust fan on the case.

If it fits I will put the fourth fan on the 120 in a pull setup and have all four going at once.


I realize that this may make me remove the 80mm side cooler for clearance for the 120 extreme.

Are there any good 5.25" bay fans?

We it doesn't sound like you have an airflow problem to me as opening the fan and pointing a desk fan at it should sort out any airflow issues.

What is the ambient temperature next to your case? Is it in the sun?

Your core temps are good, lower then your CPU temp.....make sure your GPU is getting good air flow, it and the Mobo is the only thing I can think up that would cause heat problems at this point.

Yeah.... That's what I thought.

When I look at speedfan and it has the temps, Are those just the motherboard temps? If so, what can I do to lower them?

Look at the mobo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813188016

The fan on the motherboard is RIGHT behind the video card.

I only have a 7600Gt and it stops just over the short heatsink/fan combo, so a large cooler would not clear the vid card's pcb....

Right now with the pc idleing for hours, the temps are

System - 52C
CPU - 52C
Aux - 53C
Core - 34C


Now CPU, what does that measure?
Is the core temp more important or the CPU temp?