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Athlon x2 6000+ vs. Core 2 Duo E6600

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June 11, 2007 6:52:12 PM

Hey guys, I'm new to the forumz, but I'm a long-time reader, so I know a thing or two about what's going on lately with Intel and AMD and the rest of them.

Anyways, that's not the point. Point is, right now, I have a job and will soon have buying power and that means it'll soon be time to upgrade. I'm trying to go from a Dell Dimension 840 (or something like that) system to a custom built one that is a mid-to-high range gaming system. I'm looking to spend around 800 to 1200 USD, maybe a little more, and I've already gotten a pretty good setup idea from some people over at http://opentechsupport.net, but I also want to hear what you guys think.

For now, I'm basically set on the video card. I'm going for a GeForce 8800GTS 320MB, though the question is WHO to get it from, as I'm trying to get a lot of bang for buck here. Also trying not to spend more than 300 dollars on any one system part.

Also, I'm a bit torn right now in what processor I should get

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

So, what does TG think?
June 11, 2007 7:24:20 PM

Core 2 Duo's rule the performance roost right now. E6600 is the sweet spot in the price/performance matrix.

Other sites to price in no particular order that I have used besides newegg

www.ewiz.com
www.zipzoomfly.com
www.case-mod.com

Might want to post a list of all the parts for a critique.
June 11, 2007 7:40:04 PM
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June 11, 2007 8:20:42 PM

all of your links are broken...
June 11, 2007 8:30:03 PM
June 11, 2007 9:03:42 PM

If you look around there is a comparison involving these two and stock for stock the 6000+ is on the same level as the 6600 but the 6600 runs cooler and has much more overclocking headroom.

If I can find the link before someone else, I will post it.


Here, try this one:
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html

It lets you choose the benchmark, and the processors.
June 11, 2007 9:25:52 PM

if you ask me (and you're not), i would allways take AMD 6000+ rather then E6600. I trust AMD more than INTEL. 6000+ with ABIT fatality AN9 32x is very, very "nice" combination. And you can OC that system well if you wish.
June 11, 2007 9:40:43 PM

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if you ask me (and you're not), i would allways take AMD 6000+ rather then E6600. I trust AMD more than INTEL. 6000+ with ABIT fatality AN9 32x is very, very "nice" combination. And you can OC that system well if you wish.

You "trust" AMD to do what more than Intel?
June 12, 2007 5:05:21 PM

M 2 cents...

Go for a SATA DVD burner.

Less IDE cables in the way is always better. And I don't think it costs much/any more than IDE.
June 12, 2007 5:17:56 PM

Easily the E6600, runs cooler, uses less power, and overclocks far better.

Not to mention the E6600 outperforms the X2 6000+.
June 12, 2007 5:36:14 PM

In the X2 6000 vs the E6600 comparison, the X2 6000 has a very, slight edge in price/performance, making it a slightly better purchase value. That said, it is a 90nm K8, meaning it runs hotter and consumes more power, and has very little overclockability. Future upgradability is also questionable. While AMD will produce new "drop in" chips for socket AM2, to access all features of those future CPUs, you will need to upgrade the motherboard as well. With Intel, most current socket 775 mobos, 965/975/680i/comparible chipset and up, there will remain viable upgrades for somewhile including the C2Q quad cores, though rumors of Intels 45nm Penryn compatabilty vary, so for the time being I would not consider Penryns a reliabe upgrade path.
June 12, 2007 9:49:47 PM

I don't remember asking you a thing (acord99). Man (Mathias) asks for an opinion, and i wrote mine. So, if you don't like it, don't ask me that kind of question - i like more AMD than intel, you like intel more than AMD, and thats the way it is. If you want, we can start another topic about this, but don't ever put anybody's, not only mine opinion, on question in this kind of topic.
Thanks
June 12, 2007 9:49:48 PM

Look at it this way they will both be great at stock speeds, but the E6600 has more headroom for overclocking :)  Even with no overclocking the E6600 pulls a head in most benchmarks. I doubt you would be disappointed with either though.
June 12, 2007 9:55:56 PM

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i like more AMD than intel, you like intel more than AMD, and thats the way it is.


No point in brand loyalty because its logical to purchase what's best for ones needs at the time of purchase be it AMD or Intel.
June 12, 2007 10:57:13 PM

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Look at it this way they will both be great at stock speeds, but the E6600 has more headroom for overclocking :)  Even with no overclocking the E6600 pulls a head in most benchmarks. I doubt you would be disappointed with either though.


Correct on the overclocking. The benchmarking varies, with some sites (obscure) giving a very slight advantage to the 6000, however, if you wish to discount those sites and rely on mainstream sites such as THG and Anand, then yes. I have no problem discounting Billy Bob Chens Kraplanistan Overclocking Paradice benchmarks :wink: , and agree, though overall the 2 are very, very close, in fact perhaps the closest we've seen from AMD and Intel in price/performance in quite some time.

On the price however, my earlier post was incorrect. Having checked prices just now, ZZZ has the E6600 @ $221 US, while the cheapest 6000+ I could find was $223 again, from ZZZ, giving the value advantage to the E6600, but only by a tiny margin.
June 12, 2007 11:00:59 PM

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I have no problem discounting Billy Bob Chens Kraplanistan Overclocking Paradice benchmarks


I'm sure glad you didn't reference the benchmaking by John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt - because his name is my name too.
June 13, 2007 12:19:43 AM

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In the X2 6000 vs the E6600 comparison, the X2 6000 has a very, slight edge in price/performance, making it a slightly better purchase value.


Not entirely true, the E6600 is the faster CPU overall, and costs slightly less as well so it definitely holds the edge in price/performance. From Xbitlabs:
http://xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/dualcore-round...



Tallying up Anandtech's review also shows the E6600 winning the majority of tests.

The X2 6000+ loses to the E6600 in almost every way, except perhaps total cost of ownership as AM2 mobos can be had for very cheap nowadays.
June 13, 2007 11:10:44 AM

That is what i try to explain him.
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