E6420 & high temperatures (tcase higher than tjunction)

jdee

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Hi, here is my components:

ABIT IB9
E6420 / stock cooler / running at ~3ghz
GSKILL 800mhz / 1:1

My problem is, that if im running orthos, core temp & speedfan gives me temperatures of ~60 for both cores, which think is fine? But the other temperature, tcase i believe it is, goes around 66-74 which is quite a lot, since i took this list from toms hardware:

--60--/--75--75-- Hot
--55--/--70--70-- Warm
--50--/--65--65-- N
--45--/--60--60-- O
--40--/--55--55-- R
--35--/--50--50-- M
--30--/--45--45-- A
--25--/--40--40-- L
--20--/--35--35-- Cool

And if i get it right, the tcase 60 is hot, so the readings i got is extremely hot. Other thing that puzzles me, is that as far as i know the tcase temp should be lower than those two core temps, since those core readings are taken from much deeper from the CPU? So why i have the tcase much higher than the tjunction?

I also did read, that theres some setting called PECI, which might inverse the tcase/tjunction temps? I tried to find such a setting from the bios, but couldnt find anything like that.

The orthos didnt gave me any warnings that the system would be unstable(i did run it 38mins) or so, but the temps just makes me suspicious.

So what should i do? And which temp should i look for?

Here is some pictures:
http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tempsjo4.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cpuz2qz3.jpg

I also raised the fsb by 15(385) and orthos gave me error:
http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=orthoskeskeytysvp3.jpg
Is this because of high temperatures, or do i need to raise the voltage? Here is my voltage settings:

http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ortho1mt6.jpg

Ive been trying to find out the reason for those temps about two days for now, but havent accomplish anything, it would be really cool if someone could help!
 

grev

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I have the exact same problem with my e6700. At idle im getting 30 Tjunc and 40 Tcase and with TAT 100% load im getting 55 Tjunc and 65 Tcase which is wierd. Havent found a way of dealing with it either. Help anyone?
 

Cooperstown39

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Anyone figure this out yet? I have the same problem and can't seem to find any answers.

There is a good thread in this forum which explains some of the temperature readings in more detail than the Temperature Guide Sticky.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/f...rint=0&numreponse=0&quote_only=0&new=0&nojs=0

Below is an exerpt which will at least give an accurate core temp reading;

You can get an idea of what your correct temps are this way, since the TCC is a guess.

1. Go into your BIOS and save your configuration.

2. Set a low power config with FSB 200, lowest multiplier, lowest vcore you can. The idea is to put as little heat through the chip as possible.

3. Download crystal cpuid; http://tinyurl.com/24k6su

4. In CPUID, run Function/MSR Editor and enter 0x19c in the MSR number box - this is the register for the DTS sensor - it directly reads the DTS off of the core.

5. click the RDMSR button - In my case I get a value under EAX of 0x88370000 at idle (e6600 @ 3.2).

6. Take the last 2 chars before the 0's (37) and enter this Hex number into the Windows scientific calculator. Click the hex option, enter 37, and click the Dec option. You get 55. You subtract this value from the probable TJunction point, 85C and get a core reading of 30C.

Given the low power settings you made in your BIOS, the temperature should be very close to ambient. If a TCC of 85C less the value in pt. 6 gives you a temp close to ambient, then you have the best possible idea of what your correct temps are. If not, plug in a TCC of 100C - see if that makes sense.

Anyone please post if they know of a solution to the higher cpu temps vs. core. Thanks