RCA HDTV under $300

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Bob Miller wrote:
> If you want to help the adoption of HDTV suggest to these guys that
the
> receivers they put in these integrated sets are as good as LG 5th
> generation.
>
> http://tv.rca.com/en-US/01052005.html.htm
>
> Under $300 for a 27" HD set with receiver that works plug and play,
> which it would a high percentage of the time using 5th gen, could get

> things going for OTA HD.
>
> Bob Miller

It looks like the 27" models for under $300 are "standard definition
DTVs", to quote from the referenced article:


In the Direct-View TV category, the RCA brand will include seven
Standard Definition Digital Television (SDTV) models with integrated
ATSC tuners to give consumers an affordable option for viewing digital
television broadcasts. SDTV models in the 27-inch screen size will be
available for suggested retail prices below $300, while 32-inch digital
TV products will start at suggested retail prices under $400.

The seven RCA SDTV models are:

· 32-inch flat-screen 4x3 format 32F654T
· 32-inch 4x3 format 32V434T
· 27-inch flat-screen 4x3 format 27F524T
· 27-inch flat-screen 4x3 format 27F634T
· 27-inch flat-screen 4x3 format 27F534T
· 27-inch 4x3 format 27V514T
· 27-inch 4x3 format 27V414T

....

It's good to see Thompson embracing ATSC (digital) tuners in their SD
models. I'm curious what the max ATSC resolution is for the 27" sets.
I'm also curious if they downcovert HD signal to the sets native format
(my understanding is all ATSC compliant tuners are suppose to be able
to accept all 18 formats and convert to the sets native format).

-Jeremy

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Bob Miller (robmx@earthlink.net) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
> http://tv.rca.com/en-US/01052005.html.htm
>
> Under $300 for a 27" HD set with receiver that works plug and play,

First--as others have pointed out--this is an SD set with an HD ATSC
receiver that down-converts to 480i for display.

Second, it's absolutely amazing that Bob is so stupid as to realize he
has now proven his lie that ATSC tuners add US$300 to the price of a TV.

The *same* 27" RCA TV with only an NTSC tuner costs US$300 at retail:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspag [...] pe=product

The new 27" set will have an MSRP of US$300, which means that's what Best
Buy will sell them for (except when on sale).

So, now we have at least one ATSC tuner that adds *nothing* to the price
of the TV.

--
Jeff Rife |
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calderhome@yahoo.com wrote:

> Thomson is the company that is using the "Casper" chip by Lynx
> Electronic. I wrote them two e-mails, using addresses from the article,
> asking when they would sell a stand alone OTA receiver using the better
> chip. I hope they put Casper in all their products.
>
> C
>
First hope that the Casper chip works well enough. Linx didn't show up
for an invitation twice to show how their receiver worked in NYC. They
may have done something under non-disclosure that I don't know of.

LG DID show up and did NOT ask for non-disclosure. A good sign that
their receiver would work which it did.

The only chip that I know works is LG's at this time.

Bob Miller

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"Jeff Rife" <wevsr@nabs.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c6ef43b226023a5989b36@news.nabs.net...
> Bob Miller (robmx@earthlink.net) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
>> http://tv.rca.com/en-US/01052005.html.htm
>>
>> Under $300 for a 27" HD set with receiver that works plug and play,
>
> First--as others have pointed out--this is an SD set with an HD ATSC
> receiver that down-converts to 480i for display.
>
> Second, it's absolutely amazing that Bob is so stupid as to realize he
> has now proven his lie that ATSC tuners add US$300 to the price of a TV.
>
> The *same* 27" RCA TV with only an NTSC tuner costs US$300 at retail:
>
>
> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspag [...] pe=product
>
> The new 27" set will have an MSRP of US$300, which means that's what Best
> Buy will sell them for (except when on sale).
>
> So, now we have at least one ATSC tuner that adds *nothing* to the price
> of the TV.
>
> --
> Jeff Rife |

The 27" RCA models we are familiar with, designed in the USA and built in
Mexico, are being phased out, now that RCA was sold to a Chinese company.
27" and smaller CRT sets will be produced in China.

http://pacific.bizjournals.com/pac [...] ily71.html

I wonder if that means Apex type junk?

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Frank Provasek wrote:
> "Jeff Rife" <wevsr@nabs.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1c6ef43b226023a5989b36@news.nabs.net...
>
>>Bob Miller (robmx@earthlink.net) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
>>
>>>http://tv.rca.com/en-US/01052005.html.htm
>>>
>>>Under $300 for a 27" HD set with receiver that works plug and play,
>>
>>First--as others have pointed out--this is an SD set with an HD ATSC
>>receiver that down-converts to 480i for display.
>>
>>Second, it's absolutely amazing that Bob is so stupid as to realize he
>>has now proven his lie that ATSC tuners add US$300 to the price of a TV.
>>
>>The *same* 27" RCA TV with only an NTSC tuner costs US$300 at retail:
>>
>>
>>http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1083537537895&skuId=6395073&type=product
>>
>>The new 27" set will have an MSRP of US$300, which means that's what Best
>>Buy will sell them for (except when on sale).
>>
>>So, now we have at least one ATSC tuner that adds *nothing* to the price
>>of the TV.
>>
>>--
>>Jeff Rife |
>
>
> The 27" RCA models we are familiar with, designed in the USA and built in
> Mexico, are being phased out, now that RCA was sold to a Chinese company.
> 27" and smaller CRT sets will be produced in China.
>
> http://pacific.bizjournals.com/pac [...] ily71.html
>
> I wonder if that means Apex type junk?
>
>
China is the world's largest manufacturer of TV sets. Is there a brand
that you know of that does NOT make TV sets or have TV sets made for
them in China?

TCL/Thomson will make parts in China and assemble them in Mexico, the
US, Poland, Thailand, Vietnam etc.

How can you tell where a TV set is "coming" from these days? Who makes junk?

It was not so long ago (for me) that the phrase "Made in Japan" was
synonymous with JUNK.

Bob Miller

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drewdawg (spamage@failed.net) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
> > First--as others have pointed out--this is an SD set with an HD ATSC
> > receiver that down-converts to 480i for display.
>
> That's dissapointing, I'd think 480p wouldn't raise the price that much and
> would provide a better picture than interlace. ;-(

Without detailed specs, my 480i is just a guess, because they call the
sets "SD". These sets could handle 480p, though, and they just aren't
using the CE manufacturer made-up term "ED".

--
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| piercing is a good thing. It gives us a
| quick way to tell that people ain't right,
| just by lookin' at 'em."
| -- Hank Hill, "King of the Hill"