lol
How can barcelona be a disaster? Its not even here yet. .
1st intel's Qaud core arrived in nov 06 not 08 or 07
2nd intels cheap quad core is now $500 - IT HERE NOW!
3rd intels new quad core is here and 30% faster - ITS HERE NOW!
should i keep going????
4th amd's "true" quad core does not work! - ram problems, mobo problems, problems and more problems!
Now i call that a disaster! Barcy is a repeat of the R600 (which i own and keep the worthless too hot piece of $%^& in its box)! Now i call that a disaster!
AMD is a cluster $%^& as they say, or simply a disaster! Really the AMD chips are not bad but the fickle public buys test results - so its a disaster.
SINCE WE CAN NOT TEST ONE ITS A DISASTOR!
Intel may even be close to a "not true 8 core" by the time amd sorts out all the barcie problems. Intel built the kentfeild off the 800 series - yes they sucked but the yield what we call now a "you can buy it now quad core". The 900 series led the C2D combined with the 800 series we have the kentfield.
AMD on the other had decided to redo it all and claim intel's product sucked, since it was "not a true Quad core"! Now AMD has a real problem - in fact the same problem as the R600 no bios no capability with existing systems.
I call that a $%^&'N DISASTOR!
IFB :twisted:
Please do. Barcelona cannot be a distaster as it is not yet in production.
That Intels quad core arrived first has no bearing on the functional performance or reliability of K10. K10s performance and reliability are unknown.
What ever Intel prices its quad core at has no bearing on K10 performance or reliability, as it is not here yet and those are unknown. For that fact of the matter, I cant even recall having seen any mention of proposed introductory pricing for K10 anywhere.
Intels quad core is 30% faster than what? Certainly not K10, as it is not yet here and its performance and reliability (regardless of the varying claims) are...........unknown.
K10 has no ram problems, mobo problems anything, as it is not yet here. Any problems early K10 ES steppings may have, while possibly indicative of problems future steppings may have, are not represenative of the K10 consumer CPU as....it does not yet exist.
Now, if you want to say that AMD is having difficulites, or that their management screwed up, or that their R&D, or production process are having problems, or are "disasters" if you prefer, well those are certainly debatable topics. K10s quality/value/performance are not really debatable topics (except as its timing relates to AMDs welfare) as K10 doesnt exist other than early stepping ES's, nothing that has even been released for 3rd party testing yet. Its a bit premature to lable it anything since it doesnt yet exist in consumable form.
If you really want to call it a distaster, well, then buy one, bench it for us, and share the results so we can all see how it is a disaster.