Is there any differance with having the harddisks installed vertically or horizontally? Does it get damaged more easily in vertical position?
Im asking because i am not sure in what way i should install my harddisks in my antec 182 case, there are two hd-cages, one for vertical and one for horizontal installation.
I have worked with computers for over 10 years, so I'm fairly experienced - however, I have never heard anything about hdd lifespans in different orientations, other than that you should pick an orientation and stick with it (ie, don't put it in vertically and then after a year make it horizontal). I have no idea whether or not that is true, but if it is the case that, say, parts get worn differently in different orientations and that changing the orientation after a while could cause troubles, I would suggest that it still wouldn't matter enough, considering the lifespan of a hdd (not how long it can last, but how long you will want it to last - 2 years from now your nice hdd will be tiny and dirt cheap, and you may want to replace it just for the sake of reliability).
Personally, I assume that it doesn't matter at all - at least, not with regards to any concerns you mentioned. Cooling is an altogetehr different matter, though. If your hdd is in a verticle position, it will not trap as much air beneath it; this may be beneficial in some cases. With your case, I doubt airflow is going to be an issue, so mount it however you wish ... pick a way that minimized cable clutter.
Doesn't matter how the drives are positioned. mattc is correct in that proper cooling is the main thing to look at. Which way will give better hard drive cooling.
From my experience it does matter. I will agree that temperature is the first parameter to manage.
I will only buy RAID arrays that have the HDD's mounted Horizontally as the drives last longer.
Try it for yourself with HDD from the same batch number and you will see, just look at the error counts for Horizontal vs Vertical Hard Disk Drives.
End of Story.
I was surprised of the lack of comments over 2 years.
"It doesn't matter. At all." hey cjl
Thats what all the HDD reps say. As for enterprise storage,
maybe they want to ensure their business model is sustainable.
Who do you work for cjl? WesternDigital, Seagate or the late Maxtor.
We have PLC's interfacing with PC's used in industrial sites with bad vibration, dust and extreme temperatures and horizontals last longer.
I will agree that there may be little difference for most,
but from experience its always the verticals that go bad first.
Anyone else remember the HP mini workstations that had savage vertical failure problems.
The only consistant answer is that the majority of people will outgrow their storage before they have to worry about errors.
I was surprised of the lack of comments over 2 years.
"It doesn't matter. At all." hey cjl
Thats what all the HDD reps say. As for enterprise storage,
maybe they want to ensure their business model is sustainable.
Who do you work for cjl? WesternDigital, Seagate or the late Maxtor.
Actually, I'm an Aerospace Engineering student at the University of Colorado. Nice try though.
As for enterprise storage, the hard drive companies aren't the ones who decide that the hard drives should be used vertically in enterprise applications. The system builders do that, and they have a strong interest in making sure everything is as reliable as possible to ensure return business. How many hard drives have you used in order to come to this erroneous conclusion of yours?
We have PLC's interfacing with PC's used in industrial sites with bad vibration, dust and extreme temperatures and horizontals last longer.
I will agree that there may be little difference for most,
but from experience its always the verticals that go bad first.
Anyone else remember the HP mini workstations that had savage vertical failure problems.
The only consistant answer is that the majority of people will outgrow their storage before they have to worry about errors.
The HP mini workstations might have had heat problems - heat is actually a significant factor in hard drive failure, and if they were mini workstations, it's likely that they put out a decent amount of heat into a small case.
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My background is electrical and mechanical engineering but Aerospace does sound more Bling Bling. As a student I'm sure that you were not responsible for Space Shuttle Columbia's last flight..... Maybe it was your lecturer. The point I'm making is not everything is simply o's and 1's often its simply tiny things get missed. In the past I have not been able to find a study paper that actually compared Horizontal vs Vertical otherwise neither of us would be having this discussion.
I actually work with ex British Aerospace personnel that worked on the British Tornado. Before you ask. Yes one is old.
This thread is not exactly on track for Horiz vs Vert but is an interesting read.
http://silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21533 After reading it PLEASE feel free to post some interesting studies/links if you find some. I really would like to see some empirical data also, not just my own experience.
As for the HP Mini's I cannot remember the model(5+ years ago) but we had something like 200+ of them and you are right that heat was the major factor with them but it was definitely the vertically placed ones that were failing first and the fan were very average.
Although of minor significance but which prompted me too look further into Horizontal vs Vertical is that i have personally had a couple of vertical drives with high error rates with data read issues that i have only been able to retrieve data by placing the drives in the horizontal plane. After retrieving the data the drives have continued to work as video editing scratch pads for a year+ longer. These particular drives were Seagate and also made a humming noise just like a failing capacitor which is what alerted me to the issue in the first place as i thought i had a failing power supply which remained when it was replaced.
The noise completely disappeared when Horizontal. Originally with a 5degree tilt the noise disappeared but returned over a week period.
Anyway advice is like an opinion, take it or leave it...... or do a study and publish the empirical data.
No offense intended
VERRY SIMPLE PROBLEM !
THE DRIVE ANDL PLATERSS AT 7200 RPM HAS A GIROSCOPIC STABILISATION EFFECT AND IS NOT AFFECTED .
BUT THE HEAD AND THE BALANCING ARM IS ASIMETRI GARVITATIONAL AFFECTED IF IS NOT HORIZONTAL .
SO CYBERDUDE IS RIGHT . CONGRATULATIONS