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Err, reply if I missed any important ones, i'll delete the poll and start over then

Instead of Rdram, why not just merge 4 Sdram channels...

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AC '97 is a specification standard met by all ASIC (application specific integrated circuit) chips found on sound cards and motherboards.

AC '97 is defined below.

Intel's AC'97 specification was originally intended for computer audio applications, and is in fact used on millions of PC motherboards and soundcards manufactured today. However, due to its versatility and the integration of an AC'97 interface on many microprocessor chipsets, AC'97 technology is also increasingly used in set-top boxes, internet appliances, home entertainment and mobile systems.

The AC'97 specification defines a two-chip architecture consisting of a mixed-signal codec and a purely digital controller, which is usually integrated with other digital functions (e.g. South Bridge). The two devices communicate through a 5-wire interface known as AC-Link, which can carry up to six full duplex audio streams, two modem data streams and control data.

AC'97 codecs integrate at least one stereo ADC (analogue-to-digital converter) and stereo DAC (digital-to-analogue converter) and a highly adaptable analogue mixer / multiplexer on a single device. More recent codecs also offer extra features such as multi-channel audio, S/PDIF output and variable sample rate operation.

Wolfson Microelectronics offers a growing range of AC'97 codecs covering every part of the market, from handheld devices where low power consumption is paramount, to high-end multimedia and home entertainment systems.


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Dude thats easy, its AOpen's AX4B533 Tube. I mean, there's a built-on vaccume tube on the motherboard, providing nice rich sound just like out of a tub-based amp - now thats sound.

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Do you honestly know anyone that was dumb enough to pay $200 for one? You could practically buy a Sound Blaster Audigy2 and a good motherboard for that price.

Instead of Rdram, why not just merge 4 Sdram channels...

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yeah, i guess you've got a point there, i just checked my price-lists (i buy wholesale) and its still bloody expensive - but remember, you did ask what the best onboard sound was - not whether or not it was logical/affordable to buy ;)

<b>Moore's Law:</b> <i>Processor speed doubles every 12 to 18 months.</i>
<b>OverClocker's Law:</b> <i>My processor went that fast 12 to 18 months ago.</i>

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There are people that hate digital soundcards and always go for tubes... those will sertainly like that board.

My dual-PSU PC is so powerfull that the neighbourhood dimms when I turn it on :eek:

Reply to svol

Exactly... I use my computer as an all out "media center", and having vaccume tube sound is sooooo worth it (it still beats the price of an amp for speakers and so-on..)

<b>Moore's Law:</b> <i>Processor speed doubles every 12 to 18 months.</i>
<b>OverClocker's Law:</b> <i>My processor went that fast 12 to 18 months ago.</i>

Reply to error_911

This tubes surely stresses the PSU to it's limits.

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I can imagine it doesn't, since one can't expect the motherbaord to be able to power non-amplified speakers, therefore it doesn't really have to have a high wattage expenditure.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by error_911 on 02/09/03 10:14 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

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mmmm go tubes!

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Reply to lhgpoobaa

ok, so maybe this poll was a bad idea

Instead of Rdram, why not just merge 4 Sdram channels...

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I didn't know any of those onboard codecs beside AC'97.

My dual-PSU PC is so powerfull that the neighbourhood dimms when I turn it on :eek:

Reply to svol

you haven't heard of the Cmedia or the Creative build ins???

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Only heard... never read any review about them.

My dual-PSU PC is so powerfull that the neighbourhood dimms when I turn it on :eek:

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wow, well, most of the older boards that didn't use the Ac97 codecs moved up to the Cmedia, being the 8738mx chip, also used on inexpensive sound cards. The Cmedia is still used today on limited boards in including the Chaintech Nforce2 board. The sound is roughly inbetween the level of a sound blaster 128 and a sound blaster live, so it's not bad at all. Creative Labs made a small Sb 128 build in chip for limited motherboards, including a couple Intel boards and some of the Gigabyte boards, namely, the infamous Ga-7rvxp with all of its original problems

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I thought nForce 2 had an APU, which removes any additional integrated audio chip?

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It does, but unfortunately, Chaintech decided to disable the APU for the Cmedia 8738mx chipset. I've no idea why they did that, you can look on other hardware sites, all of them have no idea why Chaintech didn't just use the APU build in.

Instead of Rdram, why not just merge 4 Sdram channels...

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i know i should probably go around looking for the answer myself, but whats APU - besides the Quicky Mart "please come again!" dude

<b>Moore's Law:</b> <i>Processor speed doubles every 12 to 18 months.</i>
<b>OverClocker's Law:</b> <i>My processor went that fast 12 to 18 months ago.</i>

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APU=Audio Processing Unit, fancy name Nvidia uses for their audio chip build into the MCP and MCP-T southbridge

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I've resolved that every PC term that ends with PU, has some processing unit in it.

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pretty much the one's I can think of I agree with you, GPU, APU, VPU (video processing unit like GPU?), FPU is floating point unit though...kinda has to do with processing

Instead of Rdram, why not just merge 4 Sdram channels...

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LED
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VCD
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Im sure there are more, but lots of these dont have PU or processing unit in them. So there :tongue:

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Interesting... now I finally know something about onboard audio codecs.

My dual-PSU PC is so powerfull that the neighbourhood dimms when I turn it on :eek:

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:) glad I know something

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