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June 18, 2007 8:11:31 AM

Hey, just like to say I'm new to the forum but it seems pretty cool. But I'll get right to my problem. My rig is a amd 4400 x2 processor, x1950gt, 2 gigs of pc3200 ram. In 3dmark 06 I have been getting low cpu scores compared to other people of the same cpu. I currently have it clocked at 2.5 ghz as opposed to standard clocking of 2.2 and am receiving a cpu mark of 983. I have done some research on forums and found that most people with my processor score around 2k on stock settings. I have downloaded the amd dual core optimizer so that isn't the problem (although if there are any other drivers I need I would like to know).Anyways here's a link to my 3dmark in case that helps. Thanks ahead for any help received.
http://service.futuremark.com/orb/resultanalyzer.jsp?pr...

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June 18, 2007 8:30:53 AM

did u upgrade your processor based on an already running windows xp or is this a new rig?

The system may not picked up both cores 8)
June 18, 2007 8:35:45 AM

It was already running Windows xp. I installed it but then had an issue so I took it to a computer shop. They reinstalled windows and everything, but if you know a way to test for the problem I would like to know.
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June 18, 2007 8:57:21 AM

What motherboard are you using? Maybe because there is a problem with HT.
June 18, 2007 9:06:28 AM

When I was uploading my specs to steam it said it had no hyperthreading, but I thought that was just an intel term? I'm using an nvidia nforce socket 939, still using ddr ram. This is an aging system making it's last stand.
June 18, 2007 9:34:09 AM

I just ran a program called Core Temp and it only gives me a temperature reading on 1 core. Does this mean that the core is fried or what?
June 18, 2007 10:06:24 AM

HT also stands for hypertransport, which this processor and motherboard does have. clear your cmos and boot at default settings, try it.
June 18, 2007 10:23:25 AM

Does screen show Dual CPU at POST? If you open Task Manager, does it show 2 CPU Usage History? Check you have latest version of Core Temp, as it shows 2 cores on my system. Run CPU-Z to see what is shown.

Mike.
June 18, 2007 10:24:35 AM

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I just ran a program called Core Temp and it only gives me a temperature reading on 1 core. Does this mean that the core is fried or what?


did you do what i have suggested? to make sure that the system is picking up 2 cores or it only recognise 1 core?

the core cant be fried, if 1 core fails to work, nither will work in AMD's design
June 18, 2007 10:48:11 AM

I would peter, but I have no idea what to do?
June 18, 2007 10:49:42 AM

I also don't know how to do the cmos thing, but any links to instructions would be great. :) 
June 18, 2007 10:51:11 AM

... hit ctrl alt del and look at your task manager. Click performance and look at your CPU usage history. Do you see two windows or one?
June 18, 2007 10:57:33 AM

one cpu and one page file usage. So, I'm guessing one core isn't being used.
June 18, 2007 10:59:21 AM

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one cpu and one page file usage. So, I'm guessing one core isn't being used.


Update your BIOS and resintall Windows.

By the way, you said you took it to a PC shop right? Is it possible that they took out your CPU and replaced it with a single core? jk lol
June 18, 2007 11:05:08 AM

I couldn't imagine getting any more owned than that. :lol: 
June 18, 2007 11:05:41 AM

um, sorry for my ignorance but how do I update my bios?
June 18, 2007 11:18:28 AM

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um, sorry for my ignorance but how do I update my bios?


find out what kind of motherboard you have. go to that companies website, and download the bios upgrade to a floppy disk. flash the bios, and install the new bios. their will be instructions on the companies website. but yah, u deffintly need a bios upgrade if ur cpu is only showing one thread on task manager.
June 18, 2007 11:20:07 AM

Well, the computer place actually installed windows and stuff. My mobo says online bios flash utility so does that mean it upgrades to the most recent bios, or do I have to download a bios onto a startup disk?
June 18, 2007 11:20:50 AM

my guess more or less the guys in the PC shop did fuck all with it and charged you for no work done!

you dont need to upgrade your BIOS, a simple windows XP reinstall should do the trick.

you could search GOOGLE for MS Dual-Core Patch you should find instructions :) 
June 18, 2007 11:25:03 AM

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my guess more or less the guys in the PC shop did **** all with it and charged you for no work done!

you dont need to upgrade your BIOS, a simple windows XP reinstall should do the trick.

you could search GOOGLE for MS Dual-Core Patch you should find instructions :) 



WRONG!!! a simple windows re-install will not do the trick . you are wrong guy, dont mislead him. If you want your motherboard to recognize your dual core cpu, u need to upgrade your bios. windows will not help your motherboard recognize a dual core cpu if ur motherboard doesnt recognize it in the first place!!
June 18, 2007 11:36:33 AM

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um, sorry for my ignorance but how do I update my bios?
You need to get some local hands on help, and not the shop that you took it to, because they obviously don't know what they are doing. Updating your BIOS can, if done improperly, render your motherboard inoperable. Either get some help or study up on the whole procedure and be very careful. Start with the MB website and read everything you can. Good luck
June 18, 2007 12:04:43 PM

You need to find out if your BIOS version supports your dual core CPU before you re-install Windows.

What is your motherboard and which version of the BIOS is it using? (it will tell you this when you boot up). We should then be able to tell from the web whether that version of the BIOS supports your CPU.
June 18, 2007 1:03:24 PM

if you looked at the link he provided with futuremark 3DMark06, the software has recognised the processor as a Athlon64 X2, and the software reads this information from the BIOS...

Im pretty sure when he boots up his machine the BIOS displays AuthenticAMD Athlon64 X2 Dual CPU or

AMD Athlon64 Processor
AMD Athlon64 Processor

If BIOS could not detect or recognise the processor it would display something like

AMD Athlon64 Processor Model Unknown or something simular to that.

But yea, by no harm to upgrade your BIOS as well.
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June 18, 2007 2:46:35 PM

The Orb screen shot shows 2gig of system RAM but only 768 in two slots. :?
June 18, 2007 2:57:36 PM

lol well spot !! I was wondering the same thing felt something strange but didnt dig in...

:lol:  :lol:  this is well messed up
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June 18, 2007 3:15:17 PM

That and out of 'soooo' many systems the only thing they seemed to have in common was 'XP' :lol: 

@OP: Your CPU score is v.low though, a 3800x2 @ 2.5GHz scores around 2k.
June 18, 2007 5:03:08 PM

you're right. Reinstalling windows didn't work. I don't know why the ram thing says that. And I'm having trouble finding bios updates for my drivers
June 18, 2007 5:30:28 PM

Download and run CPU-Z. It will show CPU info, motherboard, inc BIOS version and memory info. Your 3Dmark result says 2Gb System RAM, but only shows 512 +256 Mb.
What did you ask the shop to do? If it was to 'Fix it', I would take it back and say it's NOT fixed, and they should do the job properly, at no extra charge! If you have a diskette drive, download Microsoft memory tester (Google for it).
Double click on the download and it will create a bootable floppy. Set BIOS to boot from diskette first and test your memory.
The previos post werer referring to a BIOS upgrade for the motherboard if it does not say Dual processor or similar at boot.

Mike.
June 18, 2007 7:36:18 PM

Just installed the new bios. I'm now getting two boxes for my cpu in the task manager, and core temp is detecting two cpu temperatures. Downloading 3dmark06 atm, but it looks as if everything is going good. :D 
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June 18, 2007 8:16:08 PM

Good luck :) 
June 18, 2007 8:25:45 PM

Thanks everyone for your help. 3d mark is up to 4800 and cpu mark is at 1700 with no overclock yet. I would have never figured this out so Thanks Everyone! :D 
June 18, 2007 10:36:27 PM

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you're right. Reinstalling windows didn't work. I don't know why the ram thing says that. And I'm having trouble finding bios updates for my drivers


i fucking told you dude, reinstalling windows wouldnt do shit. why the fuck didnt you listen to me?? why would you listen to that fuckin retarded peice of shit who doesnt know crap? i told you what the fuck was up. your bios needs a update. cpu z will still reconize ur cpu, but it wont be dual core until u fuckin update ur bios. simple as that child~!!! :twisted: :evil: 
June 22, 2007 3:06:27 PM

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you're right. Reinstalling windows didn't work. I don't know why the ram thing says that. And I'm having trouble finding bios updates for my drivers


i ****** told you dude, reinstalling windows wouldnt do ****. why the **** didnt you listen to me?? why would you listen to that ****** retarded peice of **** who doesnt know crap? i told you what the **** was up. your bios needs a update. cpu z will still reconize ur cpu, but it wont be dual core until u ****** update ur bios. simple as that child~!!! :twisted: :evil: It was clear that he was over his head. I'm surprised that he didn't fry his mobo when he flashed his BIOS.
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