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I have a fireplace in the middle of my loft that is unvented. It just
burns gas and spits the heat out into the room. Of course the perfect
place to hang a nice new flat-screen TV is above that fireplace.
When I have the fire on and hold my arm above it where the TV would be
it is pretty hot.
Is there any guidance on temperature ranges, or is this just a really
bad idea?
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It will probably affect the display of the plasma, the LCD may be unaffected
but it probably may shorten the lifetime of the lamp due to the added
ambient heat. It seems that he actual temperature of the plasma generated
within the cells can be affected as a result of lower than or higher than
average ambient surroundings. Also by drafts created by the thermal
differences at the particular location you are proposing. Check with the AV
forums or manufacturers regarding these effects. IMHO I would also be
concerned about the effect of any combustion by-products on the sets.
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>I have a fireplace in the middle of my loft that is unvented. It just
> burns gas and spits the heat out into the room. Of course the perfect
> place to hang a nice new flat-screen TV is above that fireplace.
>
> When I have the fire on and hold my arm above it where the TV would be
> it is pretty hot.
>
> Is there any guidance on temperature ranges, or is this just a really
> bad idea?
>
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jrmwillis@gmail.com wrote:
> I have a fireplace in the middle of my loft that is unvented. It just
> burns gas and spits the heat out into the room. Of course the perfect
> place to hang a nice new flat-screen TV is above that fireplace.
>
> When I have the fire on and hold my arm above it where the TV would be
> it is pretty hot.
>
> Is there any guidance on temperature ranges, or is this just a really
> bad idea?
If it feels hot, I would not do it. For that matter, I would be very
concerned about the safety of an unvented fireplace.
I don't understand why so many people want to hang a flat screen above
the fireplace. That is where you put a painting, not a TV you watch. Do
you really want to watch a picture mounted way up there? Not a
comfortable way to watch TV in the long run. Find or make a place along
a wall and mount the TV where the spot just under the middle of the
screen is at the same height as your eyes in your normal sitting position.
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On 8 Feb 2005 16:35:22 -0800, jrmwillis@gmail.com wrote:
>I have a fireplace in the middle of my loft that is unvented. It just
>burns gas and spits the heat out into the room. Of course the perfect
>place to hang a nice new flat-screen TV is above that fireplace.
>
>When I have the fire on and hold my arm above it where the TV would be
>it is pretty hot.
>
>Is there any guidance on temperature ranges, or is this just a really
>bad idea?
Yes, it's a really bad idea..
Heat kills electronics in many different ways..
Increases the probably of electrolytic caps failure..
It reduces the ability of critical components to dissipate heat
build up.
It adds to mechanical thermal stresses. Materials expand and
contract at different rates. The more heat, the greater the stress.
Enough high stress cycles and things start to crack and break.
Virtually all materials degrade faster at higher temps.
Lastly, it will probably void your warrantee.. Since you'll be
operating and/or storing the TV outside its rated environmental
specs.
Consider any flat panel TV as a fragile precision instrument...
treat it well, and keep it cool location.
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Unvented fireplaces are very common in loft conversions in Chicago. It
burns gas, it's not really any different to a HVAC unit.
It is really the only good place for any kind of TV, which is why I
need a flat-panel, I have a pretty big place, but there just isn't a
good spot for a TV.
The only other option I can think of is to get a TV on some kind of
extendable mount that can come out and angle. If I did that I'd have to
buy a bigger TV and then that would mean a plasma, and I really wanted
an LCD.
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jrmwillis@gmail.com wrote:
> Unvented fireplaces are very common in loft conversions in Chicago. It
> burns gas, it's not really any different to a HVAC unit.
>
> It is really the only good place for any kind of TV, which is why I
> need a flat-panel, I have a pretty big place, but there just isn't a
> good spot for a TV.
>
> The only other option I can think of is to get a TV on some kind of
> extendable mount that can come out and angle. If I did that I'd have to
> buy a bigger TV and then that would mean a plasma, and I really wanted
> an LCD.
>
> I am bummed out about my TV quandry.
You may be better off rearranging your room layout. However, unless
you want a smaller set or to use the TV as a computer display for gaming
& surfing, the plasma will provide the better picture.
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No way I'd consider a Plasma there, not likely an LCD, and I'd really
try to avoid anththing above the fireplace.
On the other hand, I'm very familiar iwth unvented gas fireplaces and
have no issue with them. The problem is that heat is the worst enemy
you can imagine for flat panels in particular. Really bad idea.
jrmwillis@gmail.com Wrote:
> Unvented fireplaces are very common in loft conversions in Chicago. It
> burns gas, it's not really any different to a HVAC unit.
>
> It is really the only good place for any kind of TV, which is why I
> need a flat-panel, I have a pretty big place, but there just isn't a
> good spot for a TV.
>
> The only other option I can think of is to get a TV on some kind of
> extendable mount that can come out and angle. If I did that I'd have
> to
> buy a bigger TV and then that would mean a plasma, and I really wanted
> an LCD.
>
> I am bummed out about my TV quandry.
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Alan Figgatt wrote:
> I don't understand why so many people want to hang a flat
> screen above the fireplace. That is where you put a painting, not
> a TV you watch.
I wouldn't even put a painting there, especially if it's hot.
Everybody knows that there are only two legitimate things to put there:
either a crossed pair of flintlock rifles, or your mother's ashes.
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Paul Kienitz wrote:
> Alan Figgatt wrote:
>
>
>> I don't understand why so many people want to hang a flat
>>screen above the fireplace. That is where you put a painting, not
>>a TV you watch.
>
>
> I wouldn't even put a painting there, especially if it's hot.
> Everybody knows that there are only two legitimate things to put there:
> either a crossed pair of flintlock rifles, or your mother's ashes.
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"Unvented fireplaces are very common in loft conversions in Chicago. It
burns gas, it's not really any different to a HVAC unit. "
Sorry to burst your bubble, but an unvented fireplace is very different
from a gas furnace HVAC unit. Every gas furnace is vented to the
outside, while an unvented fireplace sends all the combustion
byproducts into the living space, instead of outside. Normally, these
combustion byproducts are not enough to cause health problems if the
fireplace is run occasionally, which is why they are allowed. However
they do contribute some small amounts of unwanted and unhealthy gases
which could be a problem for those with breathing difficulty. Also, if
the fireplace malfunctions, it can emit dangerous levels of carbon
monoxide.
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The amount of trace elements vented to the interior of a home by an
unvented gas fireplace is extremely small. They typically have CO
sensors as well so that the unit will fail closed if CO levels rise.
Compare this to your gas range, which frankly is used more often and is
typically in a smaller less ventilated area of the home. It produces
the same trace elements as does an unvented gas fireplace.
Now, anything - including a forced air gas furnace - can contribute to
problems for those having respiratory issues. In cases such as that,
radiant heat is far more appropriate.
Unvented gas fireplaces are great options assuming that they are
properly fitted, installed, and operated.
trader4@optonline.net Wrote:
> "Unvented fireplaces are very common in loft conversions in Chicago. It
>
> burns gas, it's not really any different to a HVAC unit. "
>
> Sorry to burst your bubble, but an unvented fireplace is very
> different
> from a gas furnace HVAC unit. Every gas furnace is vented to the
> outside, while an unvented fireplace sends all the combustion
> byproducts into the living space, instead of outside. Normally,
> these
> combustion byproducts are not enough to cause health problems if the
> fireplace is run occasionally, which is why they are allowed. However
> they do contribute some small amounts of unwanted and unhealthy gases
> which could be a problem for those with breathing difficulty. Also,
> if
> the fireplace malfunctions, it can emit dangerous levels of carbon
> monoxide.
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