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June 18, 2007 7:07:00 PM

I'm building a computer I need some help finding good parts before I actually buy it from newegg, btw I never build a pc before but from my experence I did change my current computer parts many time example: agp card,harddrive,ram. stuff like that never had problem installing them

btw my buget is around $1300 without monitor,speaker,keyboard,mouse offcrouse...all this parts are from newegg.com

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APEVIA X-DISCOVERY-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $64.99

This case looks good but if u have suggestion about better case please post back here.

------------------cpu
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - $266 waiting for the price drop on july 22nd.

------------------ram
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $131.00

------------------video card suggestion
1-SAPPHIRE 100186L Radeon X1950XT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 VIVO HDCP Video Card - $179.99

2-SAPPHIRE 100196L Radeon X1950PRO 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - $174.99

3-EVGA 256-P2-N636-AR GeForce 7950GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - $199.99

4-EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - $279.99


------------------hard drive
SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD501LJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $114.99

------------------dvd
LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with 12X DVD-RAM write and LightScribe Technology Black E-IDE/ATAPI Model LH-20A1H-185 - $33.99

------------------window
Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Home Premium for System Builders Single Pack DVD - $119.99


------------------------Mother board suggestion

I pick this 2 mobo not sure which to get or are there any better mother board besidie this two? If there is better then this post em back here.

EVGA 122-CK-NF68-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - $229.99

ASUS P5N32-E SLI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - $209.99

ASUS P5N32-E SLI Plus LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - $184.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...


---------------------------Power supply suggestion

I'm not sure how much watt power I need, I pick this 3 from newegg not sure which one is best. If there is better then this post em back here.

OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI ATX12V 600W Power Supply 100 - $109.99

OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W Power Supply - $139.99

Thermaltake W0106RU Complies with ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V version 700W Power Supply - $169.99

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June 18, 2007 7:38:17 PM

1. I love my OCZ GameXStream 600 though some would not recommend it and the 700w is way more than you will need.

2. The RAM is more than you need so save some cash.
Try this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3. 8800GTS FTW!

4. Not a big fan of that case but........... Could look at the Thermaltake Armore Jr, about the same size plenty of room inside.

5. Personally, I would get one of the new P35 chipset boards, they offer an upgrade path for the next set of Intel procs.

That is all!
a b B Homebuilt system
June 18, 2007 8:18:14 PM

Haywood offered some viable alternatives, but I'll add that you don't want Vista, particularly if you play games; it is crawling with cockroaches, the big, ugly ones. Get XP.
You can find DDR2-800 RAM for less. I'm looking at this for my next build:
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...
A-DATA 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $66.99 after $10 MIR. It is 1.8v.
It is 5-5-5-18 though.
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June 18, 2007 8:24:04 PM

thx for the good post guys I really appreciated. After looking through other website There is no point of getting 650i or 680i cause i dont have big monitor anyway so i rahter pick between this 3 mother boards. which one you guys suggest between this 3 boards?

GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3P LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - $169.99

GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - $129.99

GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 (rev. 1.3) LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - $99.99


and power supply I check out many site for reveiws,etc I defenitly need a good power supply, not a cheap psu. everything depends on the psu. which one you guys recommaned between this 4?

Thermaltake W0106RU Complies with ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V version 700W Power Supply - $169.99

PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610 EPS12V EPS12V 610W Continuous @ 40°C Power Supply - $159.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-620HX ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 620W Power Supply - $169.99


SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus SS-650HT ATX12V / EPS12V 650W Power Supply 1 - $159.99


and what is difference between Timing for ram : 5-5-5-18 vs 4-4-4-12?

btw any other better case recommanditon then i pick?
June 18, 2007 8:56:46 PM

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Haywood offered some viable alternatives, but I'll add that you don't want Vista, particularly if you play games; it is crawling with cockroaches, the big, ugly ones.


Which game has the cockroaches?
June 18, 2007 9:33:22 PM

Not game, Vista has the bugs and is much slower for games than XP. Wait for SP1 before going to Vista.
June 18, 2007 9:35:03 PM

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Haywood offered some viable alternatives, but I'll add that you don't want Vista, particularly if you play games; it is crawling with cockroaches, the big, ugly ones.


Which game has the cockroaches?

8O cockroaches?
June 18, 2007 9:47:58 PM

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Not game, Vista has the bugs and is much slower for games than XP. Wait for SP1 before going to Vista.


Vista comes with a free cockroaches game?
June 18, 2007 9:52:02 PM

Fool me once.......
June 18, 2007 10:10:44 PM

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thx for the good post guys I really appreciated. After looking through other website There is no point of getting 650i or 680i cause i dont have big monitor anyway so i rahter pick between this 3 mother boards. which one you guys suggest between this 3 boards?

GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3P LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - $169.99

GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - $129.99

GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 (rev. 1.3) LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - $99.99


and power supply I check out many site for reveiws,etc I defenitly need a good power supply, not a cheap psu. everything depends on the psu. which one you guys recommaned between this 4?

Thermaltake W0106RU Complies with ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V version 700W Power Supply - $169.99

PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610 EPS12V EPS12V 610W Continuous @ 40°C Power Supply - $159.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-620HX ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 620W Power Supply - $169.99


SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus SS-650HT ATX12V / EPS12V 650W Power Supply 1 - $159.99


and what is difference between Timing for ram : 5-5-5-18 vs 4-4-4-12?

btw any other better case recommanditon then i pick?
lol you guys going to talk about cockroach or help me out with psu and mobo...
a b B Homebuilt system
June 18, 2007 10:23:39 PM

Any of those PSUs would be good, but I'm not the expert; perhaps mpilchfamily will weigh in.
I'll reconsider then if something new has come out, but so far I'm planning to use a Gigabyte -DS2R micro-ATX board in my next build. I think you probably want the newest chipset, especially since the 965 is picky about RAM.

And it is Vista, not any game in particular, that is loaded with big, ugly, hairy cockroaches. It seems to work for some people, but for many it causes nothing but frustration.
June 18, 2007 11:01:36 PM

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Any of those PSUs would be good, but I'm not the expert; perhaps mpilchfamily will weigh in.
I'll reconsider then if something new has come out, but so far I'm planning to use a Gigabyte -DS2R micro-ATX board in my next build. I think you probably want the newest chipset, especially since the 965 is picky about RAM.

And it is Vista, not any game in particular, that is loaded with big, ugly, hairy cockroaches. It seems to work for some people, but for many it causes nothing but frustration.
so i should go with
GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - $129.99 ?
a b B Homebuilt system
June 18, 2007 11:12:47 PM

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...so i should go with
GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - $129.99 ?


That looks like a good choice. I'd probably consider that one myself if I were buying an ATX mobo.
June 18, 2007 11:37:48 PM

The second version you have linked there is the GA-P35-DS3P.

And no, it doesnt come with 2 pci express x16 slots. One of the slots is pci express x16, the other slot is pci express x4. I myself am going with the top mobo you linked. the GA-P35-DS3R. I don't want a second pci express slot in there I will never use. It has some great specs and has great reviews on it here and here. Although I'll admit to not having read the latter of these. Check them out. If you like what you see, I greatly recommend the board.

For PSU, I think you would be safe with any of those, but I am by no means an expert. I agree with the others, stay with XP over Vista.

Definitely the eVGA 8800GTS, that card is in a different league than all the others you listed.

I would look for some cheaper ram, just make sure it isn't low quality. Stick with the name brands there.

Good luck with your new build!
June 19, 2007 6:08:36 AM

Well thx for input fallensniper i defenity getting GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard :D . so far everything looks good cpu,ram,mobo, btw I'm sticking window xp for now. I need to pick power supply now lol
June 19, 2007 10:31:03 PM

The Corsair PSUs are great, but defintely not on the cheap side. But alas, that is true for most all PSUs. I hear the Xclio brand is good, but I'm not sure on that. I know they cost a lot less though.
June 20, 2007 2:44:25 AM

I'm going with SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus SS-650HT ATX12V / EPS12V 650W Power Supply 100 - $159.99 lot of people it pretty good and its Efficiency up to 88% :D  . now another thing is i was out checking computer case so far i pick 2 of them.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... not sure about this one.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Antec Performance One P180 Silver cold rolled steel case seems to have problem with power supply cord cause you need big cord to reach to the mobo is seasonic psu i posted above have long cord?
June 20, 2007 5:00:49 AM

The Seasonic does have long cables for a bottom mounted PSU. Look at it at newegg. go to the customer reviews. The tenth one down is titled "Long Cords...YESSSS" Read it, and you will find your solution. The P180 is the clear better of those two cases. I don't really like the Mystique.
June 20, 2007 5:30:12 AM

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The Seasonic does have long cables for a bottom mounted PSU. Look at it at newegg. go to the customer reviews. The tenth one down is titled "Long Cords...YESSSS" Read it, and you will find your solution. The P180 is the clear better of those two cases. I don't really like the Mystique.
sweet dude thx for the info :D  .
June 21, 2007 7:35:32 PM

X_X I remembered that the mystique had free shipping before. The antec is still a much better choice though.
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