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Should I get a X1950 GT, XT, or Pro? Which is the best deal?

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June 20, 2007 4:00:59 AM

Hey Guys,

I'm kinda hitting a dilema here. I'm upgrading my PC and I have 3 offers for the X1950 series. They're seling an X1950 GT for 148 dollars, an X1950 Pro for 168 dollars and an X1950 XT for 216 dollars. All are the 256 mb versions. However, they also have an X1950 Pro at 512mb for 191 dollars.


While I havent seen benchmarks comparing the 3 cards against eachother, I know enough that the GT is the weakest of the 3 with the XT being the strongest.

So which is the best deal? Which would you guys recomend? My PC's CPU is a Core 2 Duo e6320 and I have 2 gigs of RAM so I'm not too worried about bottlenecking...

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June 20, 2007 4:46:21 AM

On newegg, the XT is $159 after $20 rebate. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and the Pro is $125 after $20 rebate. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The difference between 256 and 512 shouldn't make a big difference unless you play at high resolutions.

In my opinion, get the XT. It is much better than Pro, and costs only $25 more. A good deal. If you want more power, go for a 320meg GTS, which goes for ~$250. Watch out though, the XT uses a fair bit of power so see if your psu can handle it. If it can, the XT is a good buy and will keep you gaming smoothly until 2nd gen directx10 cards come out. :D 
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a c 130 U Graphics card
June 20, 2007 8:49:09 AM

We discussed something similar on the forum yesterday and its worth bearing in mind that if you are in north america then xfx do a double lifetime gaurantee that even covers death by overclocking and the 7950 comes in between the pro and the xt on performance.
June 20, 2007 2:33:36 PM

Oh, sorry guys I forgot to mention that I dont live in North America, so I wont be able to use Newegg. I'm in Istanbul Turkey right now and I'm using a local dealer for the tech...

Also I'll be playing at relatively low resolutions, 1280-1024...

So right now I have 1 of you saying the Pro is the best all around deal and another saying the XT is the better deal. Anyone else have an opinion?

By the way this card is really just a placeholder until new DX 10 software/hardware comes out. I mean right now there is no DX 10 software so I'll buy a new card ( a g90 core maybe?) when Crysis and stuff comes out. So please dont suggest the 8800 GTS 320 or anything more expensive than that since its out of my current budget and not something I really need right now...
a c 130 U Graphics card
June 20, 2007 2:40:40 PM

At the res you will be playing at the extra ram wont make a difference.
What you need to decide is do you want the fastest possable which is the 1950xt please be aware that it does draw a lot of power so be sure your psu is up to it, typically people have been saying 30amps on the 12v rail and about 550 watts .
Or without doubt the best value for money which is the pro which by the way draws less power as well.
By the way can i ask what you are running at the minuite.
Mactronix
June 20, 2007 4:39:12 PM

Hmm I'm using a 550 watt PSU so great.

Anyways my current system is:

Core 2 Duo e6230
2 gigs RAM (800mhz Kingston)
Geforce 6600 GT ( a legacy part from my old PC)
Gigabyte 965PDQ6
Seagate 7200RPM 16mb 320gb
PSU: generic 550 watt

Anyways all in all I think I'm leaning towards the XT because the performance differance seems to be pretty large and I want to make sure my GPU will be able to last for a bit...
June 20, 2007 4:52:15 PM

does that 550 watt psu have a high +12v rail or rails? cause then a 1950 pro 256meg would be cheap and effective enough at your res for you to last out till crysis and so on.

Personally if your only gonna wait for another 4-5 months for crysis, why not get a 7600GT or the x1650XT DDR3 version?? its even cheaper and im sure it will last you 4-5 months without much hassle.
a c 130 U Graphics card
June 20, 2007 4:53:37 PM

As far as it goes they are the same card technicaly speacking only really speed/power diff so if thats what you want then xt it is
June 20, 2007 5:29:59 PM

Quote:
On newegg, the XT is $159 after $20 rebate. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and the Pro is $125 after $20 rebate. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The difference between 256 and 512 shouldn't make a big difference unless you play at high resolutions.

In my opinion, get the XT. It is much better than Pro, and costs only $25 more. A good deal. If you want more power, go for a 320meg GTS, which goes for ~$250. Watch out though, the XT uses a fair bit of power so see if your psu can handle it. If it can, the XT is a good buy and will keep you gaming smoothly until 2nd gen directx10 cards come out. :D 


I completely Agree. :D 
June 20, 2007 5:31:06 PM

Quote:
As far as it goes they are the same card technicaly speacking only really speed/power diff so if thats what you want then xt it is

Completely not true. Different core, different memory, different pcb.
a c 130 U Graphics card
June 20, 2007 7:16:30 PM

Quote:
As far as it goes they are the same card technicaly speacking only really speed/power diff so if thats what you want then xt it is

Completely not true. Different core, different memory, different pcb.

Taken from x-bit labs article The Radeon X1950 series consists of two models with identical technical characteristics: Radeon X1950 XTX and Radeon X1950.

This is the info i based my statement on if im wrong so are they.
June 20, 2007 7:30:59 PM

The X1950Pro uses the R570 core and the X1950XT/X use the R580+ core.
The R570 core is on the 80nm process and has 36 shaders. Where as in the past the X1900GT was made from crippled R580 cores that are made on 90nm and are spec'd at 48 shaders but only 36 shaders were operational on the X1900GT.

So in the end the X1950Pro is a cooler, less heat drawing card than the X1950XT.

For $215 the X1950XT is still an awesome deal, it performs great but you'll need to make sure you have a combined rating a 30A on your 12V to ensure stability and longevity.

The best price/performance will most likely be the X1950Pro and as i said it will not draw as much power so your psu won't be in as much question, but it still still perform very well.
a c 130 U Graphics card
June 20, 2007 7:44:27 PM

Ok 2/1 ill take that guess x bit droped the ball they are usually very good.
Oh well you live and learn thats what the forums are for but it still stands xt for fastest/best performance pro for economy.

Mactronix

To fire_zealot sorry about that seems i was misinformed hands up Thankfully it wasnt anything important :oops: 
June 20, 2007 8:17:22 PM

Pfft who cares about the details anyway, as long as it spits out an image with more fps who cares :p 
June 20, 2007 9:24:06 PM

Go with the X1950XT. You'll want the extra gaming power it can offer over the others!

Also, everyone keeps talking about, "this will hold you over until Crysis comes out". Well, the best information out right now is that it will be released in Q3 of 2007. This means July-Sept, which is just around the corner. You may want to save you money and get a DX10 card in a couple months in time to play it, because it's not far off.
June 21, 2007 8:59:04 AM

don't worry about it mactronix, we all make mistakes. I know I've posted some incorrect advice once or twice as well myself...

anyways, I think that I'll go with the Pro since its cheaper ( my budget just got reduced a bit ) and as you guys have said its cooler, and more energy efficient... I did some of my own research and it seems its also quieter so I'm going with the Pro...


thanks for all your advice and input, it was greatly appreciated :) 
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