Another Rate my Q6600 Machine...

[tubaloth]

What do you think of this PC I want to build after the price drop? I don’t plan on over clocking much (just some minor tweaks in the BIOS setting.) I don’t plan on SLI. I wanted to make the computer as quiet as possible with out sacrificing power/performance.


Case:
Antec P182SE Does finger prints and dust show up on this?

Power:
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad (I think this might be to much power for me? Should I go with 600w?)

Motherboard:
ASUS P5K Deluxe (I might go with the GIGABYTE P35 board, sense the x38 won’t come out until maybe Sept?)

Graphic Card:
EVGA GeForce 8800 GTS 640 MB

Processor:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 wait for price drop.

RAM:
Either
CORSAIR Dominator 2GB DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
or
Patirot eXtreme 2GB DDR2 1066 (pc2 8500)
Not sure which would be better?

Hard Drive:
Western Digtial Raptor 150 GB Serial ATA 150 (I already have a WD 320 Sata drive I well use for data.

Burner:
Lite-on 20X DVD+-R Burner (not really set yet on a burner, any ideas)


What I still need
A CPU cooler that is quiet and can fit in the case with the motherboard.
A TV Card/HDTV Card?

And any other suggestions. I would like to keep it as far under $2000 I can. With the price drop I should be pretty close. What ever was left over was going to be used for a new monitor (22”)

Thanks

 

[Assman]

nice looking rig, I would recommend corsair ram out of the two simply because of my personal good experience with this brand but why are you planning on getting ddr2 1066 if you are not going to OC?

 

[MooseMuffin]

I think a lot of us are thinking about building a quad core system when the price cuts roll around, so I find these threads very interesting. The main question for me is power supply. I think maybe yours is more than you need, but I'm not sure. Any other psu suggestions for a q6600 and a 640mb gts? What if I want to OC it to 3ghz?

To the OP, I agree with assman, the 1066 ram is too much money if you aren't going to OC.

 

[MooseMuffin]

Also, it looks like you get a free 250gb seagate baracuda 7200.10 with that case if you use the combo at the bottom. Maybe rethink the raptor?

 

[Zephyn]

Not a bad looking rig: I am actually thinking of building something similar when the price drop comes.

If it were my rig I would change the ram to something like this:
Corsair

I would also go with the ATI 2900XT for that price range of cards. (I actually hate ATI personnaly but the new drivers made that card shibby!) Also the thing is HDCP ready! which really kicks butt! (yes I know that the 8800GTS is also but the new ATI drivers rock) This is just my opinion, I am going to get a gimp along card (used 7900gt or something) till the R700 or the 8900.

You would have to look at your power supply to ensure that it had the correct connections for the card. (another side note that ati card might be a little loud)

Also Zalman heatsinks are what a lot of people use and are fairly low noise.

That case is going to show fingerprints like a son of a gun! BUT if you keep it clean and maybe get some stainless steel polish it should look really killer.

Oh and for a monitor I would suggest This Killer price point with HDCP support and I really like Acer products for those reasons.

Just my $.02 :tongue:

 

[deusex]

Why would you change it to DDR2 800 RAM, when RAM prices are so cheap
these days?

 

[Maturin]

I would use a Shuttle SD39P2 or a Silverstone SG-01E (with NT-06 lite) for your setup, but then again I'm a sucker for SFF

 

[knowsitall]

dude.. if you are not going to overclock you do not need 1066 ram. You should always make sure that your computer is runing the buses at a 1:1 ratio between the ram and cpu. To make ur ram/cpu run at 1:1 u simply just set ur ram timing or cpu ram ratio in the bios setting to 1:1, simple as that. and if ur running a q6600 with 1066 fsb at a 1:1 with the ram, all u need is 533mhz ram which will save you a good amount of money. here is the math, 1066/4 = 266. 266 * 2 = 533mhz. if you want to overclock a tad i suggest u get 667mhz ram. 800mhz -1066+mhz ram is only for i guess what i would call a extreme overclock....

 

[tubaloth]

but why are you planning on getting ddr2 1066 if you are not going to OC?

I thought the RAM was faster and sense my Motherboard can do it, why not go for it? But is this 1066 Ram made for Over Clocking?

I think maybe yours is more than you need, but I'm not sure. Any other psu suggestions for a q6600 and a 640mb gts? What if I want to OC it to 3ghz?

I agree. I feel like my power supply is bigger then I would need sense I’m not going to SLI. How big of power supply would I need for the 2900 Xt? I would think 600w would be enough?

Does anybody know if PC Power & Cooling Power supplies have long enough cables to reach the top of the Antec P182 Case?

Also, it looks like you get a free 250gb seagate baracuda 7200.10 with that case if you use the combo at the bottom. Maybe rethink the raptor?

I probably well drop the Raptor if that deal is still going on in a month. I didn’t expect it to keep going on now.

I would also go with the ATI 2900XT for that price range of cards. (I actually hate ATI personally but the new drivers made that card shibby!) Also the thing is HDCP ready!

I don’t mind ATI. I do know they are louder but didn’t know if they were that much “better” then 8800 gts? Which Card do you have? Newegg doesn’t seem to let you sort by 2900xt? Any recommendations then?

Also Zalman heatsinks are what a lot of people use and are fairly low noise.

Which Zalman 9700? That would fit in the Asus P35 motherboard.

Thanks for the suggestion on the Monitor, I hadn’t seen that one!

if you want to overclock a tad i suggest u get 667mhz ram. 800mhz -1066+mhz ram is only for i guess what i would call a extreme overclock....

So even 800 Mhz ram is to fast for my system? How much would I need to overclock the Q6600 to match the 1066 Ram? Just wondering? (I know dumb question)


Thanks for the ideas.
Any idea on a TV Card or a good (quiet) SATA DVD burner?

 

[knowsitall]

So even 800 Mhz ram is to fast for my system? How much would I need to overclock the Q6600 to match the 1066 Ram? Just wondering? (I know dumb question)

if u want to run ur q6600 at a 1:1 with 1066 ram, you would need to overclock your 2.4ghz cpu to 4.8ghz... (good luck with that buddy). to run 1:1 with 800mhz ram 3.6ghz. with 667mhz ram 3ghz, with 533mhz ram 2.4ghz(stock)... i would suggest u get 667mhz ram and run at 3ghz, or just stay stock, up to you.

 

[korsen]

i'm building a Q6600 rig myself when the cuts hit, and i'll share my build with you all. It should be under 2k as well, maybe around 1800 or so. Anyway,

A 600w PSU should be fine for you since you're not going to SLI, if you're not going to overclock all you need is 1:1 ram speeds. 533 for no o/c, 667 for a 1333FSB, and 800 for a 1600FSB. The difference here, is that your motherboard can take it's FSB up to 2000 - where ddr2-1066 would be useful for 1:1. Anyway, i have ddr2-800 already in a 2x1gb kit, and it's been reviewed to reach up to 1100mhz.

The difference between you and me is that i'll be getting a 2900XT and overclocking that, along with a watercooling setup, possibly with an extra radiator.

That leaves me with a cool, quiet, and powerful rig for under 2k. However, i would want to CF 2900's, but i need to wait for the X38 chipsets to release first because 1) P35 (AFAIK) doesn't support full SLI/CF - that means one card wonders. and 2) because if i'm going to go with an X38 for CF, i need to find one that can do 2000FSB, or at least come close - otherwise i'm sticking with the asus p5k dlx.

In the end this is what i have:
2000FSB
DDR2-1000 in dual channel running 1:1
Q6600 @ 3.5GHz
2900XT @ 850/2100
Watercooling setup.

It's pretty nice. It'll be a beast for many many years :] However, aside from the CF thought, if the DDR3 P5K Dlx can also reach 2000FSB, i wonder if i should wait to get a DDR3 module that can overclock up to 2000MHz... I also wonder what the performance difference would be running a 2000FSB with DDR2-1000 @ 1:1, or running it with DDR3-2000 @ 1:2... Time will tell, and so will my patience. Either way i'll have a really sweet setup. (I plan on getting a modular 750w-ish PSU btw).

EDIT: Btw "Knows it all", he'd obviously have to reduce the multi from 9x to 7x, so he wouldn't be running his quad at 4.8, it'd be running at 3.5 which is much more manageable obviously.

 

[knowsitall]

EDIT: Btw "Knows it all", he'd obviously have to reduce the multi from 9x to 7x, so he wouldn't be running his quad at 4.8, it'd be running at 3.5 which is much more manageable obviously

yah i guess you could drop the multiplier.

 

[Hatman]

Rather than needing your comp to run at your ram speed the ram would slow down to go 1:1 with your FSB.

Personally im getting 667mhz ram with low latencys for the quad core im going to get...

You dont have to actually "overclock" your CPU to make the ram and CPU run 1:1 you can just increase teh FSB and lower the multiplier which I will likely do. FSB to 400 and multiplier to 7 makes a nice 2.8gigahertz. A desent CPU overclock with much better ram speeds

 

[korsen]

More like the ram will slow down to meet your FSB 1:1 if you set it that way, more like the ram will operate at it's rated frequency if you set it that way, more like the ram doesn't have to slow down if you ramp up your FSB.

And i dont want 667, cause i'm not going to run my FSB at 1333. I have ddr2-800 and my FSB will be running at 1600 minimum. I will get it to run at 2000FSB and ddr2-1000.

Not like we're competing but my rig is going to make yours look like a cheap Dell. Maybe not quite that bad, but i do hope you're at least going to have 2gb of ram, or yours really will look like a cheap dell.

 

[tubaloth]

Wow RAM has changed over the last 4 years (I think I have DDR 400 on my machine)

Lets see if I can kind of figure this out.

If I keep my Processor at stock speed I should get 533mhz Ram. No Over clocking involved here.

If I get 667mhz RAM Then I would need to over clock my CPU to 3ghz? (or is it 2.8 I'm not sure? ) I can do this with a good air cooler?


If I get 800 Mhz RAM then I would need to over clock my CPU to 3.6ghz?


It looks like the sweet spot for me is the 667mhz RAM, with CPU at 3ghz? What would I have to do to my FSB? Maybe nothing because it can run at 1333?

Thanks for the help so far.

The difference between you and me is that i'll be getting a 2900XT and overclocking that

I have been reading some newer reviews on this sense I guess the last driver update. I haven’t been persuaded to change yet, more because of the noise and power it takes up. (sense I'm not water cooling)

 

[Kolorean]

I used to use Corsair, until i tried patriot, I think the deal is 100% better for their ram, and they are very good bang for the buck.

 

[tb28w3]

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3189364&sku=MBM-680I-Q6600


Check this deal out.... 680i SLI mobo for free

Both for $499

 

[humbe]

I see several of you say that one can adjust the multiplier.. Thought intel had removed this possibility on all their processors since the PII-350.. Is it suddenly possible again on quad core processors?.. Pretty sure multiplier is locked on dual core..

Or is there a trick to unlock the locked multiplier?

 

[tubaloth]

We've had good results with the ASUS VR Guard Series

Thanks

How loud is the ASUS VR Guard compared to other CPU coolers.


Here's a recent review about one of the other ASUS motherboards in that new series:

Check this deal out.... 680i SLI mobo for free

Wow, that isn’t to bad. I’m waiting for the Q6600 to drop in price in a month. Also I wanted to wait for x38 but it sounds like that isn’t until Aug or Sept. I wanted a chip set that can use the newer intel Processor.