I'm waiting for Q1 2008 and Agena. I went AMD this time around last February because I didn't like Intel's business practices and the X2 4600+ was the best bang for the buck at the time.
Let's face it, you would have bought the X2 4600+ regardless of best price/performance or not. Why add in all the extra spin and BS about Intel's business practices? We get it, you think Intel is an evil company.
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=433&model2=467&chart=195
I still don't like Intel as a company. I don't see their CPUs all that much better at stock than AMD, and I don't overclock. Penryn might change things but I'll stick with AMD as an upgrade to this build because AM2 will still be viable with a bios upgrade.
Wow! Didn't see that coming! You just said the same thing one paragraph ago! :lol: I was really looking forward to seeing you change your mind, but alas you still hate Intel! :lol:
Your arguments can be summarised as:
I don't like Intel, I like AMD, even if Intel is better I am still sticking with AMD.
Gotcha.
By then, I expect MSI will have the problems with MSI Live and this motherboard worked out. LOL!
I hope they do, for your sake. Don't think K10 would work without a BIOS flash at least. Why don't you just update the BIOS from the DOS command prompt.
Are you sure? An X2 4600+ Windsor at 2.4 is about as fast as a stock E6400 Allendale at 2.13 in Tom's CPU charts:
3DMark06 (CPU)
E6400: 1892
X2 4600+: 1850
FEAR:
E6400: 52 fps
X2 4600: 51 fps
An X2 5000+ rates at the following:
3DMark06 (CPU)
E6400: 1892
X2 5000+: 1986
FEAR:
E6400: 59 fps
X2 5000+: 58 fps
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=465&model2=433&chart=174
Note all the years people tolerated the space heater Prescotts and Pentium D's. Now, the industry and people on message boards are kvetching about a much smaller heat issue and a much smaller performance difference with AMD.
LOL! So An X2 4600+ is now equal to an E6400 due to similar 3DMark and FEAR scores? 3DMark is totally synthetic and is about as useful as SuperPi, while FEAR is a totally GPU bound game. Nice cherrypicking of results though. :roll:
Funny how you didn't list any benchmark where the E6400 beats the X2 4600+ huh?
How about some Divxencoding? Hmmm...
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=467&model2=433&chart=177
Well well... 6:38min to 7:52min! Just an oversight on your part, I'm sure!
What do you say about some Photoshop, one of the most popular image editing programs?
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=467&model2=433&chart=186
2:26 vs 2:51
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=467&model2=433&chart=187
1:56 vs 2:16
Nah, I'm sure I'm just cherrypicking results to make the E6400 look good huh?
Then again, isn't it odd how Xbitlabs rates an X2 4800+ lower than an E4400/E6320 in overall performance, which in turn are slower than an E6400?! And an E6420 is equal to the X2 5600+. Wow, I didn't know a cache bump from an E6400 allowed it to jump from X2 4600+ to X2 5600+ levels! :roll:
I GET IT! ALL THESE SITES ARE PAID INTEL PUMPERS!!!
At least that's what the most diehard AMD fanatics will say.
IMHO, the ethical reasons to go AMD right now add just a bit more logic to getting an AMD over an Intel, though I'd wait till an AM2+ board over an AM2, they're bound to be out long before Agena.
Please. Some perspective. AMD is hardly a model example a squeaky clean company. How about their blatant BS to analysts, 2 weeks before their quarterly financials were due? How about their 'ethics' when they were handing out 'Multicore for Dummies' booklets at an Intel PR event? How 'ethical' is it for AMD to be totally BSing about performance in the face of C2D?
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_13041%5E13077%5E14820,00.html
Looks like the X2 6000+ handily beats an E6700 huh? And look! The E6400 only matches the X2 4000! Humble in defeat, that's why I love AMD. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I have no sympathy for AMD whatsoever because their stupid CEO and his puppets Randy Allen and Henri Richard brought this upon themselves by being cocky and not innovating during the 3 years they had the lead with K8.