Need some Expert Advice for my new build

Hello,
Its been quite a while since i last posted in this forum.
This time i need ur help to help me build a new pc. It will not a Top of the Line Pc but good enough to play current games and flexible to upgrade in the future.
I have a Budget of 500 pounds and cant go any higher so please keep this in mind.
Here are the components that i have searched on DABS.com and EBAY.co.uk
Please feel free to make any suggestions.
Also I wont be doing any sort of overclocking on this system

Corsair Memory TWIN2X2048-6400C4 2x1GB 240-Pin DIMM XMS2-6400 CL4 £89.94

Akasa Ultra quiet Active PFC 500watts PSU with 12cm Fan £54.99

CoolerMaster Centurion 5 Black/Silver Case £39.09

Gigabyte S775 Intel G33 Express MATX Audio Lan Graphics £69.32
OR
Gigabyte S775 Intel P35 Express ATX Audio Lan £85.29

Sapphire Technology Radeon X1950PRO 256MB DDR3 PCIE Dual DVI TVO £91.22

Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Xtreme Audio 24BIT S/Card 7.1 £26.20

Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8GHz S775 £73.09

LiteOn 20X DVD+/-RW/RAM L/S Retail Multi Bezel £23.71

Western Digital Caviar 250GB S300 16mb 7200rpm £42.00

I might be needing some heating solution for my CPU as the graphic card already has nice big HeatSink but have no idea which one to get. Any Cheap and Good solution would be welcomed.
Cheers.
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  1. Ok where to start.

    First off, www.ebuyer.co.uk is MUCH cheaper than either of those sites, I find.


    Onto the actual computer.

    Without overclocking, you dont really need that RAM for that prossessor. PC2-5400 would easily be enough, that type of ram in 5400 version could cost nearly half as much.

    Better off getting the more expensive motherbaord because of the saved money on ram.

    Personally id go for the 1950xt over the 1950 pro. That little extra money is a good boost.
  2. If you're not overclocking and your budget is limited then you can probably just leave the stock cooler there and not buy an aftermarket cooler at all.

    Agreed about the mobo, you don't need the G33 with its onboard graphics since you're getting a dedicated video card anyway.

    You could save some money if you add the sound card later. The onboard audio from the Gigabyte S775 Intel P35 Express ATX Audio Lan may be just good enough, give it a try.
  3. thx for the reply guys.

    Hatman you are suggesting that i should go for DDR2 PC5400 Ram will it be ok to use with the current cpu cause my CPU bus speed is 800MHZ
    also u said something about getting a expensive motherboard can u plz give any suggestions in that regard.
    i couldnt find any cheap versions for 1950xt so i opted for pro version.

    aevm, i will stick to the stock cooler as u suggested. and will prefer the P35 mobo.
    The main reason i am picking this mobo is because it support intel latest cpu's and also DDR3 ram. If u have any alternatives please do let me know.
    I will b using my pc mainly for games so i think getting a dedicated soundcard would be a better option but if you are suggesting that this onboard soundcard will do nicely than i might give it a try.

    1 last question is is worth getting a 4mb cache E6400 cpu for extra 25 quid?

    Thx again guys. If u have any other suggestions regarding my other components plz feel free to share.
  4. Here's a review that could help you:

    http://www.cpu3d.com/motherboards/gigabyte_ga-p35c_ds3r_motherboard.html

    This is the mobo you have picked, right? It sounds great. I think there's also an Asus version with support for both DDR2 and DDR3, but I can't find a link right now. Gigabyte has a better reputation these days anyway.

    The sound card: I honestly doubt that you'd notice an improvement in fps. Some of the expensive X-Fi cards bring 5 fps gains, but only in some games. A better video card will bring more fps/£ than adding the sound card.

    E6400 vs E4300... Again, I'd add the 25 quid to the video card instead and get the x1950xt like HatMan said. Here:
    http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/119441
    It's £98/£115 before/after VAT.

    Good luck! :D :D
  5. ok so now i have made up my mind and wont go for the sound card for now. also i will stick with the E4300 cpu and put the extra money on VGA.

    one thing though the mobo doesnt support SLI interface so would it be ok if i get a SLI or Crossfire mobo and get a 2nd card later or just get this mobo and upgrade my graphic card? I dont know if there are other mobo with P35 chipset that support SLI or crossfire interface.

    i need some advice on the psu i want to know if 500W be enough for this rig??
    Also please do let me know if there are any compatibility issues amoung these components.

    Cheers
  6. The PSU is plenty. Play with this site for details:
    http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine
    I've never heard of that brand though, you'd better check some reviews on the Web to make sure it's reliable. 500W is OK, but I'd trust Corsair or Seasonic or Thermaltake more.

    The P35 chipset itself doesn't support SLI or Crossfire, it only has 1 PCI-E x16 slot. Since we're talking about ATI cards here, forget SLI, you need Crossfire support. Check out the P5W-DH Deluxe motherboard:
    http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/113951

    Anybody, better ideas for the mobo?

    Edit: compatibility issues: pick the mobo, then you have to worry about RAM that's compatible with it. The rest is easier.
  7. Quote:
    Here are other options on the ram and PSU. Perhaps they have similar deals where you shop.

    http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=85236
    http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=270402


    Either of these would work well. Those are both great deals. Don't worry about Memory compatibility too much. They usually work :P Memory support Lists are a great thing.
  8. i have find some other components that i have found

    PSU
    http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/114929/rb/0

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/120377/product_info/rb/0

    http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/123113/rb/0

    http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=4L2W&CategorySelectedId=11259&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11259,50121


    Casing

    http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=0&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X2dhbGxlcnk=&product_uid=109322

    http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=3R0Z&CategorySelectedId=11145&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11145,50080

    http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=4KMR&CategorySelectedId=11145&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11145,50915

    If i go for the cheaper coolermaster casing which is 28 quid and Antec PSU for 36quid will it ok?? or wat other combination do u suggest.

    wats the best brand for the DVD Rewriter should i go with NEC or samsung.

    as i am wont be doing any OC so i have decided to go for DDR2 5400 crucial ballistix 2GB ram CL3(or should i get a usual model) . Just one question will there b any performance difference from DDR2 6400??
  9. My vote would be for the Antec Earthwatts, and the Coolermaster 330. The Antec Basiqs are OK, but I hear they can be noisy.
  10. noise is not a problem cause i already have 2 other systems running in the same room :D

    so how is the quality for the Antec Basiq will it be ok for my current rig?

    also i was checking the forums and found out that its better to get a good vga instead of going for crossfire solution. what r your suggestions about this.
  11. The Basiq should work fine. The Neo just uses higher grade components, especially the fan. It is also rated at 85% efficiency as opposed to the Basiq's 70%. The Basiq also comes with a 1 year warranty vs. a 5 year for the Neo. You can go to www.antec.com to check the other details. Remember, if your power supply fails, the rest of your system is just an expensive boat anchor.

    Just a quick note, If you can afford it, this is an extremely excellent case. http://www.ebuyer.com/product/118268/product_info/rb/0. It is on my shopping list.

    Lastly, no experience with the Crossfire or SLI stuff, but from what I read, it is much ado about nothing. Supposedly you can get the same or better results OCing a single card. Most likely the current games do not take advantage of dual cards. Future ones might, but I would wait for a reason to add a second one. By then you will probably be looking at 2nd or third generation DX10 cards, and possibly even a new system.

    For now, I think you will be happy with what you have chosen.
  12. The intel CPU uses quad data rates, so when they say the bus speed is 800 MHz, it's really 200 MHz.
    DDR memory uses double data rate, so memory running at 200 MHz will be rated as 400. So PC-6400 memory will run twice as fast as you need it to.

    PC4200 memory is 1 to 1 mapping to 1066 MHz FSB speed. Without overclocking you don't even need the memory that fast..
  13. Ok now i have another setup of CPU and MOBO which will save me some more extra quids for the same performance as Intel Setup.

    AMD Athlon 64 3800+ AM2 2.4GHz £50.67

    http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=45F6&SearchType=1&SearchTerms=MSI+K9A&PageMode=3&SearchKey=All&SearchMode=All&NavigationKey=0 £68.15

    also if i get crucial ballistix ram which is CAS3 will it make any difference or should i get the simple CL4 version. i have decided to go for PC5400.

    Cheers
  14. If you are going with AMD, you will need PC6400 ram to get full performance from your CPU. X2's will work with lesser ram, but not at full speed. Here is a pretty good brand. http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/114728/rb/0. Corsair is another good one. http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/98710.

    If you are not going to overclock, you can get by with "value ram".

    Too bad you are not in the US. You can get 2 gigs of OCZ Gold for $67.99 US(£34.02) after rebate. http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=85236
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