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Hey guys i'm new to the forumz but i've been searching Tom's Hardware for about a year now getting advice on computer hardware etc. Anyway, why I posted was that I am thinking about upgrading my computer. My current specs are:

Asus A8N5X Motherboard (nForce4, 1 PCI-Ex, Socket 939 AMD)
Athlon 64 3200+ (2.0 GHz)
Connect3D Radeon X800 GTO (256 MB DDR3)
1 GB Kingston HyperX RAM
Thermaltake TR2 430W

Well the thing is...i'd like to be able to run many current games (Oblivion) and many games coming out later this year (Hellgate, Black Box, Crysis, Bioshock) at their highest settings or near there anyway. I know I can't with the system I have now so I need some help upgrading.

First I was wondering how much of a performance difference is there in say a Athlon 64 dual core processor running on the 939 platform and a new dual core athlon running on the AM2 platform. My graphics card I haven't selected yet but I'm pretty sure i'm going to stay in the DX 9 series of cards. Any help and/or recommendations are appreciated guys, thanks!

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upgrading just the CPU with the 939 socket and same ram should gain about 25% in games. You can find some of the faster x2 but they are starting to get rare. MOving to a AM2 socket, with DDR2 RAM and PCI-16 should moved you over 50% faster and more on some games. You also have more upgrade options. The 939/AGP options would be the last upgrade option, AKA dead end.

Reply to alcattle

Yah my graphics card interface is pci-express so upgrading that wouldn't be a problem and it would help out with playing newer games and stuff. But how would that factor into the percentage as far as improving performance if I also went with a dual core processor?

Reply to jhughes87

Socket 939 CPUs are getting harder to find at the moment. Maybe 2-4 months ago you could find a 4400x2 but its where a 3800x2 is about it now. If you do find anything higher than that, expect to pay a premium for it. :? The Optys are still out there though.
Regarding AM2, you'll get a much better deal buying an AM2 cpu compared to a 939. A few months ago I paid about $200 for one of the last socket 939 4600's and now the AM2 version is less than $120. The 3800 x2 is going for $80 right now.
More RAM will also help with those games, but DDR1 is expensive right now. Value DDR1 RAM is a bit more than the cost of performance DDR2 RAM, especially in 2x1Gb packs, which really blows. :evil:
This x1950xtx is still going strong these days.

Reply to dj_taboo

Dang thats no good :-\ I hate when they raise the price on a product just b/c it's old lol. Do you think socket AM2 will be around for a while? And if so would a motherboard switch be less costly in the end? Also thanks for the link to that 1950xtx, looks very appealing.

Reply to jhughes87

If you go to newegg.com you can find the parts listed below. This whole build is about $725 right now. You could sell your old system and buy this even cheaper- net price. If you wait awhile for the AM2+, there will be more than the present one MoBo ready for it. We're at a critical junction right now, waiting for new CPU's and Graphx. In a month, this will clear up.

f61

Reply to f61

Yeah I suppose I should just wait. Although selling my current pc and putting the money towards new parts doesn't sound like a bad idea either. I wish I had just put a few hundred dollars more toward making my pc 'future proof' when I had built it originally...

Reply to jhughes87

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Yeah I suppose I should just wait. Although selling my current pc and putting the money towards new parts doesn't sound like a bad idea either. I wish I had just put a few hundred dollars more toward making my pc 'future proof' when I had built it originally...


I don't think "future proof" should be applicable to computer building. A new term should be "future resistant" or (haha) "future retardant" Socket 939 is still a formidable base, however its reaching its potential thats currently the problem. This applies to users who caught on late to this socket. Now all the good CPUs have dried up and memory price is high. Its just bunk.

edit: Selling you old rig or parting it out is a good way to lower the price of an upcoming build. I sold my old 3800 venice core for $50 on craigslist to pay for my soundcard.

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