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Anonymous
February 27, 2005 2:32:21 AM

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Need a subscription....

Paxson ask FCC for permission to use other modulations....
<http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA505295.html?displ...;

As I predicted since broadcasters have been shafted by the FCC and
Congress on must carry of multicast they will now revisit their vote for
8-VSB.

Since it was this threat of loss of must carry of multicast that was
used to bludgeon them into the vote for 8-VSB, now that that threat has
been carried anyway even though they voted against their own OTA best
interest and for 8-VSB expect most broadcasters to demand a WORKING
modulation.

Paxson is only the first to go public. This is being talked about at the
DoD where support for COFDM was a major part of HOMELAND security
thinking well before 9/11. We tested with them using COFDM after 9/11
and though they have been biding their time it was never forgotten. And
many broadcasters are openly talking about revisiting this issue
especially since they have to push for MPEG-4 as well.

There will be major discussion about this at NAB with the hope of
presenting a solid front to Congress about a switch to COFDM and a more
open codec regulation.

Back in 2000 we proposed that a chip like the Equator should be used so
that compression codecs could be upgraded instead of freezing the US
into MPEG2 for any length of time. We have been frozen now for 7 years
and it has not done anything for us.

Expect quiet meetings with major members of Congress followed by a
petition for change of modulation.

It is finally about time!!!

Bob Miller
February 27, 2005 2:32:22 AM

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"Bob Miller" <robmx@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:9G7Ud.6527$873.5042@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Need a subscription....
>
> Paxson ask FCC for permission to use other modulations....
> <http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA505295.html?displ...;
>
> As I predicted since broadcasters have been shafted by the FCC and
> Congress on must carry of multicast they will now revisit their vote for
> 8-VSB.
>
> Since it was this threat of loss of must carry of multicast that was used
> to bludgeon them into the vote for 8-VSB, now that that threat has been
> carried anyway even though they voted against their own OTA best interest
> and for 8-VSB expect most broadcasters to demand a WORKING modulation.
>
> Paxson is only the first to go public. This is being talked about at the
> DoD where support for COFDM was a major part of HOMELAND security thinking
> well before 9/11. We tested with them using COFDM after 9/11 and though
> they have been biding their time it was never forgotten. And many
> broadcasters are openly talking about revisiting this issue especially
> since they have to push for MPEG-4 as well.
>
> There will be major discussion about this at NAB with the hope of
> presenting a solid front to Congress about a switch to COFDM and a more
> open codec regulation.
> Back in 2000 we proposed that a chip like the Equator should be used so
> that compression codecs could be upgraded instead of freezing the US into
> MPEG2 for any length of time. We have been frozen now for 7 years and it
> has not done anything for us.
> Expect quiet meetings with major members of Congress followed by a
> petition for change of modulation.
> It is finally about time!!!
> Bob Miller


Wouldn't your business ventures be MUCH more successful if you spent more
time tending to them, instead of posting more childish junk here?
Anonymous
February 27, 2005 2:32:22 AM

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Bob Miller wrote:
> Need a subscription....
>
> Paxson ask FCC for permission to use other modulations....
> <http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA505295.html?displ...;
>

Right! Paxson is laying off and has recently replaced its CEO. They are
surely an industry leader, NOT!!

Even with this tease, bob can't resist lying. The actual lead for the
story is:

"Paxson Communications CEO Lowell Paxson is considering asking the FCC
for new regulatory flexibility for digital-TV-spectrum licensees".

Note that bob translates "considering asking the FCC" to "ask the FCC".
He also inserts "other modulations" where "new regulatory flexibility".
appears.

Pretty pathetic.

Matthew

--
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You can't win
You can't break even
You can't get out of the game
February 27, 2005 2:32:22 AM

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http://216.239.37.104/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF...

or,

http://makeashorterlink.com/?H50C2309A

Finally, weak (German cofdm) Dvb-t of signals have no more chance.
If your TV picture constantly block building together, even breaks, or some
transmitter by your receiver is not recognized, then etc etc...

LOL!!

I wonder how much these will sell for here when we "change to COFDM"?

Will High Definition versions be more expensive?
Anonymous
February 27, 2005 3:20:22 AM

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Actually, Paxson could go any modulation format he wanted... no one
would notice.

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 23:32:21 GMT, Bob Miller <robmx@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>Need a subscription....
>
>Paxson ask FCC for permission to use other modulations....
><http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA505295.html?displ...;
>
>As I predicted since broadcasters have been shafted by the FCC and
>Congress on must carry of multicast they will now revisit their vote for
>8-VSB.
>
>Since it was this threat of loss of must carry of multicast that was
>used to bludgeon them into the vote for 8-VSB, now that that threat has
>been carried anyway even though they voted against their own OTA best
>interest and for 8-VSB expect most broadcasters to demand a WORKING
>modulation.
>
>Paxson is only the first to go public. This is being talked about at the
>DoD where support for COFDM was a major part of HOMELAND security
>thinking well before 9/11. We tested with them using COFDM after 9/11
>and though they have been biding their time it was never forgotten. And
>many broadcasters are openly talking about revisiting this issue
>especially since they have to push for MPEG-4 as well.
>
>There will be major discussion about this at NAB with the hope of
>presenting a solid front to Congress about a switch to COFDM and a more
>open codec regulation.
>
>Back in 2000 we proposed that a chip like the Equator should be used so
>that compression codecs could be upgraded instead of freezing the US
>into MPEG2 for any length of time. We have been frozen now for 7 years
>and it has not done anything for us.
>
>Expect quiet meetings with major members of Congress followed by a
>petition for change of modulation.
>
>It is finally about time!!!
>
>Bob Miller
>
Anonymous
February 27, 2005 6:02:20 AM

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What a stunningly pathetic distortion and embellishment of what was really
said in the article. Bob, ya keep me laughin'.....


"Bob Miller" <robmx@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:9G7Ud.6527$873.5042@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Need a subscription....
>
> Paxson ask FCC for permission to use other modulations....
> <http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA505295.html?displ...;
>
> As I predicted since broadcasters have been shafted by the FCC and
> Congress on must carry of multicast they will now revisit their vote for
> 8-VSB.
>
> Since it was this threat of loss of must carry of multicast that was used
> to bludgeon them into the vote for 8-VSB, now that that threat has been
> carried anyway even though they voted against their own OTA best interest
> and for 8-VSB expect most broadcasters to demand a WORKING modulation.
>
> Paxson is only the first to go public. This is being talked about at the
> DoD where support for COFDM was a major part of HOMELAND security thinking
> well before 9/11. We tested with them using COFDM after 9/11 and though
> they have been biding their time it was never forgotten. And many
> broadcasters are openly talking about revisiting this issue especially
> since they have to push for MPEG-4 as well.
>
> There will be major discussion about this at NAB with the hope of
> presenting a solid front to Congress about a switch to COFDM and a more
> open codec regulation.
>
> Back in 2000 we proposed that a chip like the Equator should be used so
> that compression codecs could be upgraded instead of freezing the US into
> MPEG2 for any length of time. We have been frozen now for 7 years and it
> has not done anything for us.
>
> Expect quiet meetings with major members of Congress followed by a
> petition for change of modulation.
>
> It is finally about time!!!
>
> Bob Miller
>
>
Anonymous
February 27, 2005 9:42:48 AM

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Bob Miller wrote:
> As I predicted since broadcasters have been shafted by the FCC and
> Congress on must carry of multicast they will now revisit their vote
for
> 8-VSB. >
> Since it was this threat of loss of must carry of multicast that was
> used to bludgeon them into the vote for 8-VSB, now that that threat
has
> been carried anyway even though they voted against their own OTA best

> interest and for 8-VSB expect most broadcasters to demand a WORKING
> modulation.


Of course nowhere in the article does it say the FCC will revisit the
vote. Of course nowhere in the article is COFDM mentioned. Oh, and of
course nowhere in the article is HIGH DEFINTION mentioned. Classic
BOOBY bullshit. Classic. By the way, can anyone tell me what Paxson
Communications, that biggie that's on the tip of everyone's tongue
right along there with CBS, ABC and NBC actually transmits in HD?

> Expect quiet meetings with major members of Congress followed by a
> petition for change of modulation.
>
> It is finally about time!!!

No BOB, it's 'finally about time' that you recognize this is a HIGH
DEFINITION ng in which there is ZERO, NONE, ZILCH, NADA interest in
mobile datacasting. Your business plan is a no go, a failure. Time to
move on.
Anonymous
February 27, 2005 3:24:57 PM

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On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 vidguy7@aol.com wrote:
> By the way, can anyone tell me what Paxson
> Communications, that biggie that's on the tip of everyone's tongue
> right along there with CBS, ABC and NBC actually transmits in HD?

The Seattle PAX station is SD only, with very poor quality video (it looks
like a third generation VHS copy). No subchannels.

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Anonymous
February 27, 2005 6:31:14 PM

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vidguy7@aol.com wrote:
>
> By the way, can anyone tell me what Paxson
> Communications, that biggie that's on the tip of everyone's tongue
> right along there with CBS, ABC and NBC actually transmits in HD?
>

Nothing, so far as I know. They don't even protect their local
affiliates from competing with the network. I get PAX twice on DirecTV.
Once as a local channel and once as part of Total Choice.

Twice is two times too many, IMHO.

Matthew

--
Thermodynamics and/or Golf for dummies: There is a game
You can't win
You can't break even
You can't get out of the game
Anonymous
February 27, 2005 8:01:39 PM

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Matthew L. Martin (nothere@notnow.never) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
> Nothing, so far as I know. They don't even protect their local
> affiliates from competing with the network. I get PAX twice on DirecTV.
> Once as a local channel and once as part of Total Choice.

That's just another reason to be suspicious of anything Paxson says.

When DirecTV started expanding their LIL, Paxson agreed with DirecTV not
to assert "must carry" if DirecTV carried (and paid for) the national PAX
channel.

They later used a small loophole in the FCC rules (since no type of
carriage was chosen and carriage wasn't explicitly denied, the election
period was still in effect) to force DirecTV to add all the local copies
at the last minute before the election period ended. This is despite
there being a contract that said "pay us for the national channel and we
won't require must carry of our affiliate stations".

--
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| "No, there's already a soda like that: Soylent Cola."
| "Oh. How is it?"
| "It varies from person to person."
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Anonymous
February 28, 2005 11:09:29 PM

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Mark Crispin wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 vidguy7@aol.com wrote:
>> By the way, can anyone tell me what Paxson
>> Communications, that biggie that's on the tip of everyone's tongue
>> right along there with CBS, ABC and NBC actually transmits in HD?
>
> The Seattle PAX station is SD only, with very poor quality video (it
> looks like a third generation VHS copy). No subchannels.
>
> -- Mark --
>
WYBE 35 from Philadelphia does the same thing on DT-34. I wonder what they
do with the rest of the 19.4?
Anonymous
February 28, 2005 11:09:30 PM

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Drewdawg wrote:
> Mark Crispin wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 vidguy7@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>By the way, can anyone tell me what Paxson
>>>Communications, that biggie that's on the tip of everyone's tongue
>>>right along there with CBS, ABC and NBC actually transmits in HD?
>>
>>The Seattle PAX station is SD only, with very poor quality video (it
>>looks like a third generation VHS copy). No subchannels.
>>
>>-- Mark --
>>
>
> WYBE 35 from Philadelphia does the same thing on DT-34. I wonder what they
> do with the rest of the 19.4?
>

I wouldn't expect anything of quality on the DTV channels of Paxson
until the analog shutoff. They aren't going to spend a cent they don't
have to. They are laying off and have recently replaced their CEO. It
might take a credible threat of losing their licenses to get them to
spend money.

Matthew

--
Thermodynamics and/or Golf for dummies: There is a game
You can't win
You can't break even
You can't get out of the game
Anonymous
March 1, 2005 4:50:56 AM

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g666bush wrote:

> Actually, Paxson could go any modulation format he wanted...
> no one would notice.

My local PAX affiliate has endless hours of "content", but I don't
think I've yet seen a single actual SHOW on it.
!