NOT DirectX 10 On Windows XP. Ignore.

I posted about this 3 months ago, so now they have a patch? Hmmm, with the patched DX10 games out now that dont do alot anyways, Ima waitin on this one

and yet again....an unknown prog being posted by someone we hardly know.

I am not gonna install anything till someone else tries it and confirms what it does :roll:

seconded.
(not that i have a dx10 card   )

seconded.
(not that i have a dx10 card   )

nither do i, but you know...just to be safe  

Just curious what your motivation is for joining the forum today and starting three new threads to promote this.

When DX10 is made to run well on xp it will be widely reported....IMHO.

Here is some info that suggests it is only a preview.

Link

I doubt that will happen. If Microsoft did it, then they would kill the main reason most people have for buying Vista, DX10. After all, why would I buy Vista and all the crude that comes with it, including slower frame rates, if I could patch DX10 into my XP OS and save a lot of money, work, and headaches?

bleh  

As of now, the only project I know that could make DX10 work on XP is... Wine - by creating a DX10 wrapper over OpenGL 2.1, like they did for DX1-9.
The wrapper should become part of libwine as well as allow Linux users to play DX10 games on Linux.
Implementing the stubs and architecture of DX10 in Wine is a Google Summer of Code 2007 project.

hang on here, i just got a 8800 gts 640mb today and have windows xp. is there an official patch for windows xp thats needed to run D10X games too?

if there is, send me the link please.

also, what name some Dx10 games please so i have an idea?

Merwan- DONT DO IT!!! Well, dont unless you want to have to reinstall windows. I don't know what this patch will do and neither does anyone else. If in doubt as to something's intent or source, don't install it.
DX10 gaming isn't worth it right now and the only things that are available that support DX10 are demos at this point, with the games coming out around October or so, so there is no rush to grab something that is of questionable content/intent.
Just my 2 cents.

as has been mentioned, this is probably a hoax. Now, you might not need to patch DX10 apps to run so much as you'd need to fool them (Windows XP returns the version NT 5.1 while Vista returns NT 6.0). After that, you need to reproduce the required APIs - meaning that you'd probably have a greater chance to make everything work correctly with IE7 + .Net 3.0 + WMP 11 installed on top of a DX10 patch.

Now, what solutions would allow you to use DX10 on WinXP?
Solution 1:
- backport DX10 libraries
- install DX10-compatible drivers (would require patching Windows XP's kernel due to different hooks).
Solution 2:
- backport DX10 libraries
- hack DX9 drivers so as to make those work with DX10 libraries (would require complete reverse engineering of Nvidia and Ati hardware, and reprogramming drivers for those)
Solution 3:
- reprogram DX10 libraries to translate DX10 calls and HLSL ops into OpenGL calls and GLSL ops.

The latter solution is actually the most simple. It merely requires good OpenGL drivers. HLSL and GLSL map one to the other almost perfectly. DX10 calls are not that different from DX9 ones.

Solution 3 is, as I understand it, what the Wine project is implementing.

Damn, I feel like I'm back to the Voodoo days, when people spent a lot of time creating wrappers to make Glide work on non-Voodoo hardware...

mitch074, all this too much for me.


listen, can i just do nothing and just play the game stalker please?

Yes, ignore this fool and his talk of DX10 patches. Your system is fine as it is - go forth and game.

Well i will try it, since my windows needs to be reïnstalled anyways  

I will post the results later... and if i don't my computer has crashed and im on a holiday in portugal  

lol, well i downloaded it. Unpacked it. It was a .exe file   so only by that you shouldn't trust it.

BUT, i clicked on it, computer was busy and the file disapeared   . So now i don't dare to reboot because i think it wont boot up anymore... but since im going away tomorrow i just let it on for the night...

Post back and let us know what happened.

Ahem. Windows XP ONLY supports DX9. You can't just apply a 1.5mb patch. Not a chance.

Could install it on a virtual machine... maybe with a cow filesystem and some forensics tools?

Be our guest...I don't have VPC

LOL FeareX      

let us know if anything happened  

Thats it FeareX take one for the team....

in short: no. Not yet at least.

Ignore that crap probably is a joke or somekind of a virus. All GFX drivers for Windows XP support DX9. Unless Nvidia and ATI they are on to something.

Well, I downloaded it ,opened it with wordpad and this is what it says at the end of the file:

D:\bb\rBot\rx-asn-2-re-worked v3\Debug\rBot.pdb

Anything with bot in it is probably not related to DX10  

So Fearex.... I guess we wont be seeing you for a while huh :wink:

lawl wp

Well im happy to report...

:trophy: !!my pc still boots up!! :trophy:

hahaha  

And this windows setup was doomed from the beginning, so when im back i'll have to reformat either way.

But it was a weird file :? , it just dissapeared when i clicked on it. And i have scanned my sys on virusses (nod32), nothing. And with the windows search function it was magicly dissapeared (even with scanning for hidden files)  

JonIsGinger, youre totally right :wink: i should have thought at that before i downloaded it.

But now you know it all ... it doesnt do anything  

Owyeah now i have a question.. i have a choice , installing winXP or winVISTA.

Wich one shall i choose?

I'd say... Linux?

Yeah i still wanna learn that. But for my normal everyday things i still use windows because thats what im used to.

But is linux really that much better? I mean windows xp runs great to. It never crashes on me and things like that.

well, I'm using it right now. Rock stable, blazingly fast, bunch of apps for free that I can download and install with a couple of clicks, best 3D interface you can find, no risk from malware or virus.

No need to reformat/reinstall every 6 months, when you REALLY want to reinstall it all your settings and data are kept intact, installing a complete system is 25 minutes (apps included) and when you install updates, your whole system is patched (with hardly ever the need to reboot - you don't know how NICE it is to have a clean running system in 10 seconds time, even when you've been away for a months and 30 updated packages land upon you!)

No need for defragmenting, no need to hunt malwares down, no antivirus killing your system's performances, your system configured the way you want it, just plain freedom.

Internet works, email too, Google Earth, desktop search, office suiteS (OpenOffice and Koffice, Gnome Office...), video editing, music players, graphics processing (POVray, Gimp, Inkscape, Xara), DSL TV, videoconferencing, full system monitoring, on top of incredible reactivity and speed even on 3 years old hardware.

What do I miss? Well, some of my Windows games don't yet run on Wine. But since there are many Linux-only games available, some which can be magnificent and/or addictive, I must admit not having felt a void.

i DONT THINK, he be able to responed because i think his whole computer blew up....


ok so a guy comes in here "PATCH FOR DX10 FOR XP" he only has 2 posts...... gives a link to a virus infested site......

Ya, smart.


We know that DX10 API IS COMPLETELY different from DX9 which is why Vista a WHOLE NEW OS is the sole supporter of it!

So i really want to try it, the only thing is that i still need to learn how to work with it. I heard the ubuntu version is very easy to learn.

I only tried the opensuse version and i couldn't even get my ati video drivers installed :? . So there was the end of the opensuse linux.

And still i responded  

Nothing get's this pc on its knees.. so i seems 8)

Maybe you didnt download it right? or install it correctly?

I think you have delete the folder that says "windows" and then install whatever you downloaded, tell me if that works

Hmm wait ill try... i give you a headsup in a few minutes...


hopefully it works  

:? it still doesnt work  

You with your lauzy help  

Fear-ex could you try looking on your D: partition (if you have one) for this directory please?

D:\bb\rBot\rx-asn-2-re-worked v3\Debug\rBot.pdb

I'm a little curious if you have this or not. Also did you check to see if the registry or processes have been altered in any way? Maybe running something that wasn't there before.

Thanks.

Well i can't find the file anywhere anymore :?

But i don't see any new services running wich could be it. It doesn't find anything with rbot or something.

i simply have no clue what this 'patch' should do.

I'll format my pc now and reïnstall it when i come back after 2 weeks :wink:

There is no DX10 patch, there is only an OGL wrapper for DX10 features on XP, and that will perform poorly and lose many of the benfits of DX10 to begin with.

for those who must play a DX10 title, that may be worth it, but in most cases you're going to chug worse than the mid-range on DX10 so there's no point. Only once it's DX10 only would it be something to consider, and that's a long way off.

Dx10 isn't the barrier for many titles like Haloe, it's the Vista requirement, which is different.

Hey i haven't seen you here as an admin   (congrats)

But im going to sleep now, and to everybody here .. don't try this patch at home  

Ok thanks.. I guess it's a magic file. Now you see it, now you don't 8O .
I would not trust it though as the last time I had strange files on my PC it was a nasty bugger with it's own email client (something like that) and it would try to send data, apparently online gaming passwords and such, to I don't know where. The reason I caught it was that it gave an error when not connecting to the internet shortly after start-up (I manually connect) It flashed a 16-bit DOS window really fast stating some error before closing again. If i had a different connection type I probably never would have seen it so... anyways... enjoy your vacation man.. 8)

Thanks for the kudos, it's been a busy day just checked in here.

Hope your PC's fine, wouldn't trust the link though, hence the caveat for others.

Didn't want to delete the thread because of the discussion and your feedback.

IMO, never take raw links/files from strangers. Especially those promising 'DX10 on XP' or 'natural male enhancement'. :twisted:

Yeah, give ubuntu or kubuntu a try, by far the easiest Linux install I have ever done. I thought it was even easier to install than windows 8O. I still prefer Gentoo though... (but that's because I'm a glutton for punishment i guess  )

I installed ubuntu on microsofts free VirtualPC and it works great. Thats another option if you don't want to dual boot.

I get "stuff" emailed to me all the time. I just recently got a PDF file from someone that I've never heard of. (I emailed him back asking who he is and why he sent me this, and I got an automatic email delivery failure.) I'm with TGGA on this. NO program, porn, game, etc is worth putting your computer at risk. There are other programs that can be run, different porn to watch, etc. Keep your computer clean, don't worry about the little things you might have missed because you didn't take the chance on something.

well coming from a strange i wouldnt trust that link or anything regarding that and i dont have a DX10 card so wtf?

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i dunno man, ive seen some porn that was worth reformattin my hard drive afterwards... thats just me though

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i dunno man, ive seen some porn that was worth reformattin my hard drive afterwards... thats just me though

:mrgreen:

Really? Even the most outrageous stuff I've seen (like Opearl) isn't anything I'd like to lose my OS over.