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July 7, 2007 4:16:39 PM

I've been reading everyone else's "New Rig" topic, and now it's time for my own.

I am looking for a stable, quick system that will load applications with ease primarily. In addition, I want to play next-gen games such as Crysis with excellent frame rates (40-60 FPS sounds good, no?).

I also want to overclock.

Budget is around 800$, possibly 1,000$.

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Here are my tentative components:

Case: just an old ATX tower
From my build in 2003. I bought it new and it has removable 3.5" drive bays and those neat little slip-out 5" clips. Why buy another case if the motherboard is still ATX form factor?
» no reference
0$

Power Supply: Antec TP-II 550 Watt
From my build in 2003. Will 550W be enough?
» http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=22550
0$

CPU: Core 2 Quad Q6600
When dual cores first came out, they were hardly utilized. As this has changed, I see the same occuring with quad cores.
» http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
~280$ (waiting for price drop around 7/22)

CPU Fan: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
I am gonna need one of these for overclocking, right? Saw it on another topic plus it's cheap and looks effective.
» http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-AC7PRO
22$

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R or MSI P6N SLI Platinum
Price is a must, but I don't want to buy a hunk of shit that explodes down the line. I have seen the DS3R floating around the forums a lot, but I picked the P6N; I mearly add it to hear what you will all have to say about it with respect to the DS3R.
» http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (DS3R)
» http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681... (P6N)
115$ (DS3R) or 145$ (P6N)

Memory: CORSAIR XMS2 (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800
800 for possibly overclocking, Corsair because of some idea of mine that they are reliable. I saw a review where a guy says he overclocked to 4-4-4-12@2.1v and it compelled me, but I am open to suggestions.
» http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1682...
131$ (40$ mail-in rebate)

Video Card: EVGA 256-P2-N751-TR GeForce 8600GT 256MB
Keeping it cheap while trying to get better performace than my GeForce 4 4400. Maybe a little too cheap?
» http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
115$

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE16 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA or Maxtor 500GB SATA 16MB Buffer
Heard that the SE16 is fast and silent. Saw the Maxtor in another topic and wondering if it is any good also. Currently I am leaning towards the Maxtor for extra capacity.
» http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1682... (SE16)
» http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4551377 (Maxtor)
80$ (SE16) or 90$ (Maxtor)

Optical Drive: DVD±R/RW 16X CyberHome PATA
I barely ever use my DVD drive, except for installing games and transferring files. I don't see any reason to waste 30 bucks on a SATA DVD drive.
» no reference
0$

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Any suggestion will be appreciated, as I am just getting back into the hardware scene (who isn't on this forum?).

My main concerns in order of importance are:

1) Enough power for stable and reliable operation?

2) Stable, reliable motherboard and memory.

3) Keeping the damn thing cool while silent.

4) Good video card to keep me from bitching about not getting a better card when I am getting my ass owned in Crysis or someother next-gen game.

5) Longevity and relative performance of hard drive.

So, how's it look, guys (or gals, possibly)?
July 7, 2007 4:43:46 PM

Quote:

1) Enough power for stable and reliable operation?

2) Stable, reliable motherboard and memory.

3) Keeping the damn thing cool while silent.

4) Good video card to keep me from bitching about not getting a better card when I am getting my ass owned in Crysis or someother next-gen game.

5) Longevity and relative performance of hard drive.

So, how's it look, guys (or gals, possibly)?

1) Yes

2) Yes

3) Tough one, post pics of your case on the forums at SPCR for sugesstion to make it quieter. Also, I hear the 8600GT fans are a bit noisy.

4) Here's your weak link, get the 8800GTS 320MB, it's worth the extra $$$, it's roughly two to three times as powerful :twisted:

5) Both have good reps and are good quality, just get one with a 5yr warranty.
July 7, 2007 5:29:16 PM

Yeah - definitely the 8800 320MB...the 8600s are pretty puny..
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July 7, 2007 6:02:21 PM

ds3r is good
get 8800gts 320 for sure.
wd se16 is quite good.
July 7, 2007 7:33:48 PM

Quote:


Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R or MSI P6N SLI Platinum
Price is a must, but I don't want to buy a hunk of **** that explodes down the line. I have seen the DS3R floating around the forums a lot, but I picked the P6N; I mearly add it to hear what you will all have to say about it with respect to the DS3R.
» http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (DS3R)
» http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681... (P6N)
115$ (DS3R) or 145$ (P6N)



I would go with the GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R if SLI is not important, but upgrading to the Penryn 45nm CPU in the future is.
July 7, 2007 7:54:32 PM

Suggested Changes:

RAM: Super Talent 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2-800 - I've heard good things about this RAM and it's ability to overclock. If you want to get the most out of this new rig, this RAM is the way to get that done.

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB - Same as the WD you picked, but slightly higher I/O transfer rates, $5 cheaper, and a longer manufacturer warranty (5 years).

Mobo: Asus P5K - I've been put off of recommending Gigabyte boards for awhile due to a very bad experience with their tech support (prompted due to certain releases of their BIOS for my board)

Video Card: eVGA Geforce 8800 GTS 320MB - The other posters were correct. The 8600's are pretty puny. Better off getting a lower end 8800 card for this rig, as it doesn't make much sense to get high end hardware everywhere else, and then skimp on the video.
July 7, 2007 10:36:00 PM

Making my changes to my rig in response to your very quick and welcomed suggestions and comments.

Following my updated rig I will be addressing topics brought up by you responders and covering issues that I still feel uncertain or ignorant about.

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Here is the first revision of my rig:

Case: just an old ATX tower
From my build in 2003. I bought it new and it has removable 3.5" drive bays and those neat little slip-out 5" clips. Why buy another case if the motherboard is still ATX form factor?

I remember getting this at buyxg.com, but can't seem to find it today.

» working on trying to find or create a reference
0$

Power Supply: Antec TP-II 550 Watt
From my build in 2003. Yup it's got SATA power cables.
» http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=22550
0$

CPU: Core 2 Quad Q6600
When dual cores first came out, they were hardly utilized. As this has changed, I see the same occuring with quad cores. Dosen't the idea of four cores at your disposal just make you beam with content?

» http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
~280$ (waiting for price drop around 7/22)

CPU Fan: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
I am gonna need one of these for overclocking, right? Saw it on another topic plus it's cheap and looks effective.

» http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-AC7PRO
22$

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R or ASUS P5K P35
DS3R maintained by your_best_enemy (lolz cute name), and jaguarskx.
P5K suggested by The_Prophecy.

These two are up there from what I have heard so far. Same Northbridge, but the DS3R seems to have better reviews, although <30 is a pretty bad sample size for both of these.

The compatibility issues with the DS3R and DDR1066 had me a little concerned, but I read up on overclocking and wonder if I will even need to worry about this issue. I'm leaning towards the DS3R for price, albeit a 35$ difference, not that much in the long run. Also it has 8 SATA. I find the absolutely amazing! I probally will only be using one of them, maybe two if I get another hard drive.

Which one has better audio? The DS3R has a greater model number, so is it the winner?

The P5K has "ASUS Super Memspeed Technology- Memory speed enhanced up to 75%!" This is a gimmic right? It would probally have hundreds of reviews if this were true.

» http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (DS3R)
» http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (P5K)
130$ (DS3R) or 150$ (P5K)

Memory: SUPER TALENT (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800
Suggested by The_Prophecy.

Tight timings of 4-4-3-8 and less expensive than my previous choice (at least before mail-in rebate, but I heard those things are a bitch to redeem)! Thanks dude for this amazing catch 8)

» http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...
106$

Video Card: EVGA 320-P2-N817-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16
Suggested by miahallen, DeusEx, your_best_enemy, and (last but not least) The_Prophecy.

Well this should deffinently blow my 4400 out of the water. If I do get this card it will be my real splurge. The price is really making me wary though.

» http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
315$ (exactly +200$ from the 8600)

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE16 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA or Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB or Maxtor 500GB SATA 16MB Buffer
SE16 maintained by miahallen and your_best_enemy.
Seagate 320 suggested by The_Prophecy.
Maxtor 500 maintained by miahallen.

I read at this location, http://techreport.com/etc/2007q3/system-guide-0707/inde... (under the 'Storage' heading), that the SE16 has a greater performance and lower noise level than the Seagate 320.

On the other hand, the Seagate 320 has 1702 reviews @ 5 out of 5 (eggs =P). This is really pushing me in its direction. Also its listed specs are better than the SE16.

I still can't get the 500GB outa my mind. I would love to have a lot of storage. Right now I am only running 200GB between 2 drives

Seagate does have the longest warrenty, though.

» http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1682... (SE16)
» http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682... (Seagate 320)
» http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4551377 (Maxtor 500)
80$ (SE16), 75$ (Seagate 320) or 90$ (Maxtor 500)

Optical Drive: DVD±R/RW 16X CyberHome PATA
I barely ever use my DVD drive, except for installing games and transferring files. I don't see any reason to waste 30 bucks on a SATA DVD drive.

» no reference
0$


Current upper bound on price (most expensive components): 970$
Current lower bound on price (least expensive components): 930$
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As before, more suggestions are very much welcomed; I understand that the components on my list arn't the end-all for a computer to suit my needs.

Quote:

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3) Keeping the damn thing cool while silent.

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3) Tough one, post pics of your case on the forums at SPCR for sugesstion to make it quieter. Also, I hear the 8600GT fans are a bit noisy.

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My current set up has 1 case fan in the front bottom, 2 close together at the rear near the CPU and one on the left-hand-side above the video card.

My setup right now runs silent and I am wondering (this can be answered by any of you) if my CPU fan will be adequate with respect to overclocking.

I'll post pics of my case as soon as I snag my bro's cam.

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I would go with the GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R if SLI is not important, but upgrading to the Penryn 45nm CPU in the future is.

I see what you mean about the Penryn, but what are the advantages of having an SLI capable mobo? I read somewhere (probally this forum) that by the time I start losing performace again, I might as well just buy a next-gen video card instead of doubling for SLI.
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Now more of my concerns, starting from top to bottom with respect to my rig layout, then some additional general concerns:

1) How is power availability looking now? Will my Antec 550W survive this pounding?

2) CPU fan and cooling: does my provisional cooling setup allow for a real overclocking ability? More to the point: is my CPU fan gonna handle, and will I have to worry about the 8800GTS starting a furnace?

3) Motherboard: the prices are so close so this is tricky. I know The_Prophecy said that he or she has had bad service with Gigabyte, but I can't let one outlier remove even the possibility that others maintain. Some cold, hard facts are needed.

Also, the interplay between over clocking, the 1333 FSB of the Penryn 45nm CPU, and DDR1066. Any conflicts?

The motherboard is my area of greatest worry. I have this nagging feeling that I am going to cause future (and even present) compatability issues by not choosing the right mobo.

4) Memory: Super Talent has great reviews, but never heard this brand before. Anyone using this with meaningful input with respect to the timings and relative performance?

5) Video card: 200$ more!!!!! I made this decision due to all those who mentioned video cards here; you are unanimous in your suggestion. This thing better be god damn worth it, and it better last longer than my GeForce 3 back in 2000/2001 (I forget exactly when). Maybe I should wait for price drops?

6) Hard drive: I want latencies that produce a real performace increase, not some hyperbolic benchmark. I've never ever used a hard drive warrenty and would like some insight into why a 5 year is better than a 3 year beyond saying "one is two years longer than the other." Do hard drives tend to fail around year 4 and 5?

7) I want to run Windows XP Pro 32-Bit. I'm very experienced with installing OS's, but I am wondering if the 32-bit attribute of my chosen OS will bottle neck my system. My main reason for staying with XP is because of driver issues.

8 ) Waiting for Core 2 Quad: everyone seems to be talking about these mysterious price drops around the corner. What is your two cents on this issue (well, issue for me, atleast)?

9) I've never overcloked before but see everyone else getting jiggy with it. I wanna have some fun while keeping my components safe. What is my method of protection?
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I've touched on everything (I believe). Looking forward to another round of replies and converse with you guys (and gals)!!
July 7, 2007 11:06:45 PM

I don't know if you will get 40-60 fps on crysis... :cry: 
July 7, 2007 11:14:19 PM

Quote:
7) I want to run Windows XP Pro 32-Bit. I'm very experienced with installing OS's, but I am wondering if the 32-bit attribute of my chosen OS will bottle neck my system. My main reason for staying with XP is because of driver issues.


Since all your hardware is practically new, you shouldn't have any driver problems with Vista 64 bit. 64 bit will let you easily use 4+ gig of ram for your next upgrade (future) If your buying a new license I would get Vista just to "future proof" your system but if you already own your 32 bit XP then use that until you feel comfortable with Vista 64.

Most people here will say stay with XP for gaming and I don't game so... but for normal applications Vista is a nice little change. Nothing you can't tweak XP for but it has some nice little things and would future proof your system.

Again, just throwing this out there saying don't "buy" XP and have to upgrade later. I'm not saying that Vista is all that superior or anything but its probably not as bad as everyone says IMO
July 9, 2007 4:28:13 PM

It is looking good. Here are my two cents:
1) Power looks good.
2) CPU cooler is ok. The biggest heat generating component will be the 8800GTS. Add a slot cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... , it's cheap and is very effective. If your case has a 120mm exhaust fan and some decent input vents, cooling should be ok. The noise will be directly related to the speed at which the fans have to spin to give you adequate ventilation.
3) Don't worry about future proofing the motherboard. There is no guarantee that penryn will run on any board without some sort of new revision. Verify that the cpu and memory are compatible. Don't spend extra for a SLI capable board unless you plan on 2 8800-gts's.
4) The amount of memory you get is more important than the speed or timings unless you are overclocking. The C2D processors run well on any speed, there is less than a 5% difference. Get a well known brand like Corsair so you can still buy the same modules when and if you want to upgrade to 4gb.
5) The 8800gts-320 is a good choice. The vga card is the single most important factor in gaming. Get the best you feel comfortable buying.
6) How much space do you need? A WD raptor150gb will be the fastest you can buy. Add a second slower drive for storage and backup if you need to. Otherwise, the ones mentioned will still serve you well.

7) If you already have XP-PRO, go ahead and use it if you are dismantelling the pc it is running on. Otherwise consider Vista. There will be no driver issues with your new components. The issues come with trying to upgrade older and obsolete components. As a new purchase, vista will cost less than xp-pro.
8) The expected price for a Q6600 or a E6850 will be $270 or so on july 22. I would consider the merits of a faster duo(3.0) E6850 instead of a quad for gaming.
9) Most things you will do are not limited by a high end CPU. Overclocking the CPU seems to be popular to the enthusiasts that frequent this forum. If you are mainly a user, then don't bother. It is a practice similar to hopping up cars. You spend money to get additional speed which you can't use while voiding all sorts of warranties.
July 9, 2007 5:59:53 PM

Over the weekend I have done some research and selected new components.
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Here is the second revision of my rig:

Case: Antec 900
Great gaming case, heard a lot about it. Good cooling, better than my current POS.
70$

Power Supply: Antec TP-II 550 Watt
From my build in 2003. Yup it's got SATA power cables.
0$

CPU: Core 2 Quad Q6600
Just keeping with the theme of this computer. I really want quad core, even though it ain't true yet.
~280$ (waiting for price drop around 7/22)

CPU Fan: Tuniq Tower 120
Heard this thing is killer, and big =P
60$

Slot Cooler: Dynatron BT-SB80SBK 80mm PCI
Why not? It can only help
8$

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R
Heard this is a killer OC board. I'm not gonna get SLI so good for me.
130$

Memory: Crucial Ballistix (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800
Good OC ram.
126$

Video Card: EVGA 320-P2-N817-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16
I get what I pay for =]
315$

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB
5 year warranty, well reviewed. cheapest =P
75$

Price around 1000-1100$
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Why won't I get 40-60 FPS in crysis?

Yea I have a good key associated with my Windows XP, so I won't be buying a new version =]

What makes the mushkin DDR2 800 ram good? What's the difference between the video card I have now and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082 ?



My Concern:

Heard good things about my CPU cooler?
July 9, 2007 6:53:33 PM

catfacem3n,

Alittle help on the price of :EVGA e-GeForce 8800GTS Graphics Card - nVIDIA GeForce 8800GTS 500MHz - 320MB GDDR3 SDRAM - PCI Express x16

For $289.99 -(rebate $20.00) = 269.99

Get it here....http://www.clubit.com/product_de tail.cfm?itemno=A9602833
July 9, 2007 7:06:51 PM

Quote:

Why won't I get 40-60 FPS in crysis?

Yea I have a good key associated with my Windows XP, so I won't be buying a new version =]

What makes the mushkin DDR2 800 ram good? What's the difference between the video card I have now and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as px?Item=N82E16814130082 ?



My Concern:

Heard good things about my CPU cooler?


You weren't going to get any decent FPS with a 8600GT, that's what I was referring to.

What makes the mushkin ram good? Decent company + very cheap 2GB pack

and the video card you have listed now is an EVGA 8800GTS 320 KO ACS3, the one I listed is a 8800GTS 320, the ONLY difference is that the one you listed is factory overclocked, but you can easily overclock a video card's Core and Memory in less than 5 minutes. Overclocking shaders is more difficult, but can be done using NiBiTor.

BTW the Tuniq Tower 120 is considered by most the BEST air cooler on the market.
July 9, 2007 7:25:37 PM

thanks cmonsna, this seems like a good idea with taking Emp's reply into consideration. I could just overclock it and get it up to speed =]

Emp, you got the mushkin ram? Have you overclocked it and maybe you could tell me more about your system.
July 9, 2007 8:01:25 PM

Nah I don't have it, Im using old 2 gigs ddr2 533 ram (why buy new ram when old one works 1:1) with my E6400 powered by an Antec NeoHE 500. Just waiting for my evga 8800GTS 320 to arrive now... ordered it a few days ago.... Supersaver shipping lolz...
July 9, 2007 8:49:57 PM

what is the make on your ram?
July 9, 2007 9:23:50 PM

catfacem3n said:
Case: Antec 900
Great gaming case, heard a lot about it. Good cooling, better than my current POS.
70$


Yeah, your old case IS rather butt ugly. I'll be glad to see it gone and done away with. Too bad, though, you aren't getting an Antec P182b like your big bro. :p 

It'd suggest you start buying the parts even though you aren't really planning to have the system fully up and running anytime soon. At least the case, with that 40$ off (although that will most likely last for a month or two, it's still a part you can buy right now and keep stored locally even with us moving)

catfacem3n said:
Power Supply: Antec TP-II 550 Watt
From my build in 2003. Yup it's got SATA power cables.
0$


I'm sure it'll be good enough for your system. It was top of the line a few years ago, anyways, and you haven't abused your old system so it'll be fine. The only issue might be the current from the SHITTY electrical system in our VERY OLD house. Hopefully it's fine, though. The UPSs should have stopped it from being raped.

catfacem3n said:
CPU: Core 2 Quad Q6600
Just keeping with the theme of this computer. I really want quad core, even though it ain't true yet.
~280$ (waiting for price drop around 7/22)


Yeah, I'm most likely going to get one of these myself, as while the E6850 is a NICE chip, I multitask a LOT more than I game. And I can ALWAYS overclock it to 3.2ghz on air... Hehe. :) 

catfacem3n said:
CPU Fan: Tuniq Tower 120
Heard this thing is killer, and big =P
60$


Booo, the TUNIQ TOWER is heavier than my fat arse! It's an AWESOME cooler, but though I'd be afraid of accidently killing someone with it while it was being shipped. Otherwise though, I have the Artric Cooling Seven and it's a NICE cooler. I think I'll just keep it for this system and build with water on my NEXT one, hehehe.

catfacem3n said:
Slot Cooler: Dynatron BT-SB80SBK 80mm PCI
Why not? It can only help
8$


Why not? It's a WASTE of eight dollars and shipping. They're LOUD, burn out after a few weeks or a month, and don't really do much as they PULL COLD AIR AWAY from the GPU cooler. You'd be better off getting ME to cut holes in the IO brackets, and installing a nice 120mm fan. In fact, that's what you should do with the unused IO bracket space.

catfacem3n said:
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R
Heard this is a killer OC board. I'm not gonna get SLI so good for me.
130$


Yeah, it's a nice motherboard. I still think I'm going to want SLI though, except the only SLI board that I'd buy is seventy bucks and doesn't overclock nearly as well. Bummer.

catfacem3n said:
Memory: Crucial Ballistix (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800
Good OC ram.
126$


Crucial and Kingston are the two "baseline" rams that most people go with. GSKILL and mushies are the two biggest overclocker rams. At least they were last I checked.

catfacem3n said:
Video Card: EVGA 320-P2-N817-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16
I get what I pay for =]
315$


I'm actually learning towards the GTX myself. It'll be a BIT more outright, but though it'll last longer especially if I didn't have an SLI-capable motherboard. No reason to damn myself to NOT having a massive graphics card, right? :p 

catfacem3n said:
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB
5 year warranty, well reviewed. cheapest =P
75$


I usually pick Western Digital as I've YET to have a WD harddrive fail on me while I've had seagates, maxtors, and the like die on me back at that computer refurbishing job. :( 

catfacem3n said:
Price around 1000-1100$


Going to try and get MOMMY to pay for that, like usual? Hahaha. ;) 

catfacem3n said:
Heard good things about my CPU cooler?


It's a nice CPU cooler, but it's big. Really big.
July 9, 2007 10:01:04 PM

I actually use the slot cooler. Let me dispell some misconceptions. It is not loud because it has a knob which adjusts the speed for whatever balance you want between cooling and noise. The 8800gts/x has four slots at the end of the card which do not expel hot air out the back like the main cooler does. Therefore, the 8800 recirculates some of the hot air back inside the case which hurts both the vga and cpu temps. The slot cooler should be mounted directly under the vga card, or, better yet, one slot away. Its intake will be directly under the four 8800 vents, nowhere near the 8800 intake opening. My case, vga, and cpu temperatures went down 5c after I did this. It is one of the best cooling bangs-for-the-buck you can get.
July 9, 2007 11:11:43 PM

Yep agreed... haha I just bought one of them things today, $7.00 on my local shop (Not worth ordering online) and I can see a difference (not a HUUUUGE one, but hey... it's 7 bucks only)

Btw, my RAM is Kingston value ram..
July 10, 2007 12:47:02 AM

Guswut said:


Crucial and Kingston are the two "baseline" rams that most people go with. GSKILL and mushies are the two biggest overclocker rams. At least they were last I checked.





Ive heard mixed, but most say the ballistix will OC better then the G.skill.
July 10, 2007 1:33:30 AM

My landlord just put to gether which is sitting downstairs right now running a C2 Quad q6600 which has in it.
XFX mb 680i sli chipset, not sure which model with 6 sata ports
in which he installed 5 seagate baracuda hd's set up in a raid 5 showing 1.8 tb of storage.
4x2 gb ddr2 pc6400 modules
1 xfx 8800 gts 320mb
vista ultimate 64 bit plus aftermarket hsf and the system screams.

Myself i'm just running a Pentium D820 with 2x1 gb of ddr2 pc5300 on an asus pl5d2 with a 6800xt and sb xfi platinum running the same os vista ultimate 64 bit on 2 80 gb seagate baracudas' on a raid 0 setup and bf2 and c&c3 and all my halflife stuff run just fine with the setup until i find time and cash to upgrade myself, but i do have use of the quad machine downstairs if I wish.

R COllins
July 10, 2007 4:05:58 AM

The PS will be a weak link in your system. Consider an upgrade as soon as you can afford it.

Go for the Thermalright Ultra Extreme HSF.

Quote:
What makes the mushkin DDR2 800 ram good?


Good chips, good QC, good people...
July 10, 2007 4:46:40 AM

i decided that i am going to wait until crysis comes out to build my PC.

thanks for help everyone
July 16, 2007 4:23:13 AM

Dude...ditch the slot cooler....worthless in this case. If your going with the Antec 900 case...take a look at how many case fans it has. The slot cooler is just one more thing to clutter up the case. With the Tuniq Tower and the case fans (3 - 120mm and 1 - 200 mm fan) its like a wind tunnel in that case. A slot cooler can't compete with them. My 2 cents.

Nice system though...I'm building very similar. Same processor, Mobo, CPU Cooler and Case. I'm gettin the BFG 8800GTS 640 OC2.

Good luck
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