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Hello, Im interested in buying a new video card but i don’t want to buy something i can’t get the max out off or is too much for my system. I would appreciated any input. I have a p4 3.0speed processor. This is the mother board I have http://www.superwarehouse.com/Asus_P5P800_Motherboard/P5P800/p/439860. I have looked at the gforce series 8, I think for my usage gaming mainly I should get the 8800 320mb but im not 100% sure if this is a wise idea and if the card would work fine on the mother board. Or is this video card too much for that mother board. Thanks in advance

(1st time posting sorry if i posted in wrong place)
 

cristip60

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Well you can get a 7600gt those are quite psu friendly and has good performance.
An x1950pro just sucks some serious juice from the psu and with that cpu i think more then a 7600gt is going to turn into a bottleneck.
 

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What StrangeStranger said. And, in the future, try to use more descriptive titles than "video card", especially in a dedicated video card forum. ;) For instance, "best video card for P4 3.0Ghz?"
 

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Im willing to spent up to $320 or so. As for the power supply i dont remember waht i have but i knwo is way more than what i need the current moment. I play RTS games mainly and supreame commander is a demamding game that is why the im looking for the upgrade.
 

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For SupCom the GPU upgrade won't do much good, you'd still be very limited due to your P4. SupCom likes Core 2 Duos and overclocked Athlon X2s, and not much else.
 

lola

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I'm sorry but I just play games I don’t understand what you are saying "Supcom" "GUP" "Core 2 Duos" "Athlon X2s" I know some things about computers but not to your lvl.
 

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Supcom = supreme commander
GPU=Graphics Processing Unit=Video card
Core 2 duos=a type of intel processor
Athlon X2's =a type of AMD processor
just read in these forums and you will learn alot :)
as for your video card, you have an AGP slot and a slower CPU so i would go for like a X1950 pro AGP
but you will most likely have to upgrade you PSU=Power Supply Unit=Power Supply
hehe
good like
(ps im only 14 )
 

Yoosty

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yours is a AGP system, the best you can get is either a 1950pro or xt. in light of your proc you probably won't need more than the pro.

You are Wrong there. XFX has come out with a 7900 & 7950 series for AGP graphic cards.This is what us at NewEgg right now. XFX PVT71AYDF3 GeForce 7950GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Retail $269.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150223

Listed below are all model #'s from XFX website.
NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT AGP 8X 512MB DDR3 (PV-T71A-YDL3, PV-T71A-YDF3) Pixels per Clock (peak) 24

NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT AGP 8X 256MB DDR3 (PV-T71A-UDF3) Pixels per Clock (peak) 24

NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS AGP 8X 256MB DDR3 (PV-T71K-UDL3, PV-T71K-UDL7) Pixels per Clock (peak) 20

NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS AGP 8X 256MB DDR3 (PV-T71K-UDF3, PV-T71K-UDF7) Pixels per Clock (peak) 20

http://www.xfxforce.com/web/product/listConfigurations.jspa?seriesId=185563&productId=0

Seems XFX took a page from what Gainward did last year in Europe, when they came out with there AGP 7800gs+ cards.

Hope this helps you out some.


 

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1950 PRO and xt are about 160$ after rebate on newegg right now which allows for a decent PSU and still have money left over.Maybe some ram if you don't have 2gigs.
 

Yoosty

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102071
The Nvidias are overpriced compared to ATI's. And ATI outperforms them in this segment.

Lets see, hmmm only 12 PixelPipelines and very complicated when updating drivers. Compared to 20 to 24 PixelPipelines and drivers updating is simply and easy.

Guess I rather pay the added expense for more and ease of use then for something with less and hard to use.. :whistle:
 

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what kinda problems have you run into? iv had ati and nvidia cards, never had an issue with drivers from either company. if anything, the x1000 series drivers were much better image quality wise than the 7000 series cards.

so you would pay an extra $100 just cause the drivers "are complicated" :sarcastic:

also, the x1950XT out performs all the current nvidia AGP lie up, including the 7950
 

The 1900 series is better than the 7900 series, not quite sure what youre saying here. And if the 1900 is cheaper, then its the better choice. And downloading and installing drivers is still downloading and installing drivers. To the OP, go with the 1900 for your agp, its currently the best agp card made, you wont be disappointed
 

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The pro might have "only" 12 pipelines (the XT has 16), but each pipeline has 3 shader units attached to it, giving it massive shader power. I also don't understand what you're talking about with a complicated updating process. AMD provides us with new drivers EVERY MONTH (for those of you who are looking for frequent updates.) and they are a breeze to use. Toss in the mentioned lower cost and higher performance, and you would have to be an Nvidia fanboy to buy the 7950 series cards. (did I forget to mention HDR and AA at the same time? Is there anything the 7 series can do better then the x1k?)
 

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Wow, you clearly don't know what you're talking about... :sarcastic: ATI stopped going with the traditional "pixel pipelines" with the X1XXX series.
 

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But does your PSU handle it OK??? :D :lol:
 

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lola said: Hello, Im interested in buying a new video card but i don’t want to buy something i can’t get the max out off or is too much for my system.

The main point of this thread is to give "lola" the best choice for his oney and gaming experiance. With that said.

The Ati 1950gt series (with only 12 pipelines and cheaper by $90 on the 7950gt) maybe can run most current games at medium settings.

Now the XFX new 7900/7950 agp series cards (run at 20 for the 7900GT or 24 pipelines for the 7950GT), you can run at High graphic settings for games out now and those in current pipeline. Plus XFX has Double Full Lifetime warranty on there graphic cards.

Both the ATI 1950gt and XFX 7900GT/7950GT need an extra power supply connection. Plus no doubt that both ATI & Nvidia have other agp cards coming out for the 2400/2600 & 8000 series in near future to run on Vista and use dx10, but only using 32 Stream Processors at least (since they are completely different and not to be compared with pixal pipelines).

Now on my history of computers and graphic cars go back to 1995.
Matrox (pci)
voodoo 1 addon card (pci)
ATI (pci)
Canopus Voodoo2 addon card (pci)
Nvidia (1st gen) card (pci)
ATI Radeon 64DDR card (agp)
3DFX 5500 card (agp)
Nvidia 4600ti card and up to 7800gs> (which was used with a Intel 3.4ghz P4 cpu) (agp)
Nvidia 7950 gx2 Quad SLi (PCIe)

So when ATI/AMD does come out with a better card then Nvidia. I might go and buy one. The ATI 2900 xt was a start in the right direction, but came out with to young of drivers, huge power demand and runs very hot.

Have a Good Day now!!! :kaola:
 

blade85

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uhhh.....have you not seen the reviews lately??

the x1950XT beats it in 95% of games on max settings + AA and AF at every resolution.


oh and dont take my word for it....use google, or here i'll make ur life slightly easier, check this link and play around a bit: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/graphics/charts.html


also last time i checked, ATI did come out with better cards for the last 3 versions (9000 series, the x100 series, and the x1000 series were in majority of the cases better than what nvidia had to offer at that same price range), were you asleep the last few years?
 

Yoosty

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kaotao said : Wow, you clearly don't know what you're talking about... :sarcastic: ATI stopped going with the traditional "pixel pipelines" with the X1XXX series.

Then whats is this in Red below.

Brand SAPPHIRE
Model 100171L
Interface
Interface AGP 4X/8X
Chipset
Chipset Manufacturer ATI
GPU Radeon X1950PRO
Core clock 580MHz
PixelPipelines 12(36 Pixel shader processor) :non:
 

blade85

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sod the pixel pipeline numbers already......the 7950 gets outperformed by the so called "lower pipeline card". read my reply just above urs in case u missed it.
 

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goddamn son!! im 17 and i thought that i was the youngest one among the people of this forum :lol: