Visor locked in bootup, help!

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In article <gbchu0hd96iu2r1tpani8plcf98bqmosng@4ax.com>,
<see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid> wrote:
>My Visor just crashed for the zillionth time in OmniRemote, but it's stuck
>in bootup after I pin-hole reset it. Is there any way to get it out of it
>without doing a hard reset and toasting everything in RAM? Also, will
>holding the power button while doing the pin-hole button do that? It's
>never needed it, so I dunno if it's the same as my Treo (which has needed
>it more times than I can count).

My Visor eventually reached a condition where it would get into that mode--
stuck in a loop at pinhole reset--way too often. Hard reset was the only
way I could find to break the loop. You can't even turn in it off! I
solved the problem by getting a Clie.

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 05:18:51 +0100, in comp.sys.handhelds you wrote:
>see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid wrote:
>> My Visor just crashed for the zillionth time in OmniRemote, but it's stuck
>> in bootup after I pin-hole reset it. Is there any way to get it out of it
>> without doing a hard reset and toasting everything in RAM?
>
>Yes, there is. Hold the "up" button while you are resetting it using the
>reset hole. Keep it pressed for a few seconds or until you see a Palm
>logo. That way you will bypass any programs which start right after the
>reset (like resident programs, hacks and so). All data in memory is intact.
>
Ah, thanks
BTW, it seems to me that I hit the power and up button at the same time
(remembering this procedure incorrectly) and it seemed to do something,
but I can't remember what because it was too long ago.
Am I just shorting a neuron here, or does that do something too?

>If that doesn't help, then your only option is hard reset - you
>described it down there.
>
>> Also, will holding the power button while doing the pin-hole button do that?
>
>No, it will invoke a hard reset procedure. PalmOS will ask you if you
>want to erase all memory contents or not. If you wan to, press "up" or
>any other key not to erase it.

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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:27:18 +0000 (UTC), nospam@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek)
spewed:
>>My Visor just crashed for the zillionth time in OmniRemote, but it's stuck
>>in bootup after I pin-hole reset it. Is there any way to get it out of it
>>without doing a hard reset and toasting everything in RAM? Also, will
>>holding the power button while doing the pin-hole button do that? It's
>>never needed it, so I dunno if it's the same as my Treo (which has needed
>>it more times than I can count).
>
>My Visor eventually reached a condition where it would get into that mode--
>stuck in a loop at pinhole reset--way too often. Hard reset was the only
>way I could find to break the loop. You can't even turn in it off! I
>solved the problem by getting a Clie.

Well that's not encouraging!
Yeah, that's exactly what happened, won't turn off, won't even boot to
safe mode (if that's hold up button while pin-hole reset, as I've heard).
I wonder what the hell is the deal with Palm OS. It seems to just get
"bit rot" like Winblows does, only you can't reinstall it to fix it like
with Windows!
Palm OS is just an absolute mess IMO, and OS5 is 5 times worse.
Is Clie M$ W-CE or still Palm?
Thing is, I hate to switch because of the incredible software choices for
Palm, and free availability (read: warez

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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:02:46 GMT, AaronJ <noemail@noemail.com> removed
the duct tape and proclaimed:

>If you run pirate warez software, that's probably your problem...

Hahahahaha! Good one.

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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:02:46 GMT, AaronJ <noemail@noemail.com> spewed:
>>Palm OS is just an absolute mess IMO, and OS5 is 5 times worse.
>>Is Clie M$ W-CE or still Palm?
>
>My OS5 Zire72 has never needed a hard reset. It's very stable.
>
>>Thing is, I hate to switch because of the incredible software choices for
>>Palm, and free availability (read: warez
>
>If you run pirate warez software, that's probably your problem...

I disagree, I've had just as many problems if not more with freeware,
demo's, payware. In fact the worst problems I've had have been with
Pocket Tunes, which I got legit from Palm for registering.
So, definitely no correlation between warez/non.
In light of the above, there doesn't even seem to be any connection
between major software co's and no-name ones.
There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it at all!
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see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid wrote:

> AaronJ <noemail@noemail.com> spewed:

>>If you run pirate warez software, that's probably your problem...
>
>I disagree,

No, I think we agree:

>I've had just as many problems if not more with freeware,
>demo's, payware. In fact the worst problems...

If you have just as many problems with legit software as you do with warez
software, then you seem to agree there are lots of problems with warez software.
That's what I said: Warez pirate software probably is the problem...

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see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid wrote:

>It would be more correct then to say that I've have problems with ALL
>types of Palm software, regardless of source (wares/legit/free)!

If you have problems with *all* types of Palm software, then it's probably not
the software that is the cause of the problem...