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July 17, 2007 11:23:54 PM

Hi,

I'm new at this build for a pc let alone building a pc that will be a dedicated media sever with a raid disk array(?) set up. I haven't seen much about this kind of a build on this forum and not sure this is the correct place.

I have taken apart a few PC's and replaced hard drives, added different videocards and modems and memory etc. Setup my own home network using a Linksys (WRT54GS with Speedbooster) router with 3 pc's and a PS3 wired in.

I'm using this for storing my private DVD collection (300+ currently) and streaming them through my PS3 PS through my hometheater DLP projector.

I have used a freeware media Server software (Tversity) with added codecs to produce a streaming video from one of my low end pc'c Micron 866 Mhz with less than 1 gb of memory over the home network through the PS3 and it looks and sounds great over the home theater system.

What i'm looking for is to build a separate media pc from scratch that will have a tower for a case with 8 SATA bays with the ability for a hot swap setup, raid (5?) controller, a DVD R/W DL drive, a motherboard that is expandable from a CPU perspective and memory perspective starting with a two Duo core cpu's one for handling editing of the DVD data an one for streaming, keyboard, mouse, no monitor needed, backup software. I want to start out with 1 tb of storage and add drives as required without having to rebuild the array if that is the way to go. I'm leaning towards XP for the OS but I am open to suggestions. My budget I would like to keep under 2500.

Please let me know what hardware would make sense for a reliable and expandable PC and if you need more information.

Thank you for any help and please point me to the correct area if this is not the correct forum.
July 18, 2007 12:09:53 AM

get a server board with dual socket 771 slots, and put in 2 quad cores with 8GB ram and get a hardware raid SAS controller and get 2X 36GB 15k rpm sas drives raid 1 for OS server 2003 x64 and raid 5 6X 500GB sata for storage...that should be under $2500
July 18, 2007 12:35:31 AM

Great! thanks for the quick reply. What about a case and suggestions on names of mobo's and memory and drives and where I can get the best prices?
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July 18, 2007 12:58:35 AM

I'm guessing that the 2 36GB drives will be used to store the OS and any software?
July 18, 2007 11:50:56 AM

I started looking at cases to get me going on what I will need to build the pc. From my research the Supermicro company seems to have a good case for what I want to do. I found a combo package from this site
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It is a SUPERMICRO 7045B-3B 4U Rackmountable / Tower Barebone Server Intel 5000P Dual Sockets 771 Dual Intel Xeon 1333/1066/667 MHz FSB and a Intel Xeon E5320 Clovertown 1.86GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache Socket 771 2U Passive Processor

This seems expensive without adding memory, drives, mouse and keyboard my cost is 1633.00. Is trying to find all separate components and see if they work together a better solution or since these components are already together my trial and error and build time reduced make more sense?

Again thank you for any help.
July 18, 2007 4:05:42 PM

500 gb hard drive Seagate Barracuda ES ST3500630NS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM 150.00 X 2 300.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memor y CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail 85.00 after rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

36 gb drives Seagate Cheetah 15K.4 ST336754LW 36.7GB 15,000 RPM 8MB Cache SCSI Ultra320 68pin Hard Drive - OEM 180.00 each
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I haven't ben able to find a single version of 2003 x64 server OS.

I'm not sure what I need for a hardware raid sas controller.

Any thoughts on the above configuration?
July 18, 2007 7:15:23 PM

Does anyone know another site(s) that might be more in tune to building a media server type pc that I could check out?
July 21, 2007 12:38:56 PM

I have come up with the following configuration that I hope will work for my mediaserver/storage PC using raid 5 and should be expanadable.

I have the OS, Windows XP and the monitor.

Please let em know if this looks like a good configuration or suggest different components to make it a better PC for running a raid 5.

GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3P LGA 775 Intel P35 150
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz 223
Cooler Master Aquagate S1 RL-EUL-GBU1-GP Liquid Cooling Kit 77
AMS DS-3151SSBK Aluminum 3.5″ SATA 5-drive hot-swap 125
5 Seagate 500 GB SATA II HDD (RAID-5 for 2 TB storage) 625
Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Black ATX chassis 150
A-DATA Value Series DDR2-800 RAM (2 x 1 GB) 85
SeaSonic 550 watt silent PSU 130
Lite-on 20x SATA-based dual layer DVD burner 30
ATI 100-436012 Radeon 9250 256MB DDR PCI Video Card 73
Mouse and key board 100
AMCC (9500S12) Serial ATA Controller 12 PORT SATA RAID CARD (3ware) 330

Total 1998

Than you for any help.
July 21, 2007 3:10:06 PM

the AMCC (9500S12) is a pci-x card and that MB has only pci slots and pci-e slots.
You need a pci-e x4 or better raid card get one that is a hardware raid card it is better on get one with on board ram. Look for RAID 6 as well.
There was a Intel 775 board with pci-x but it was based on a older chipset there may be a nforce based one as well.

There is a am2 board with pci-x slots and pci-e slots called the M2N32-WS

or you may want a dual opteron board with on board SAS hardware raid
http://supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron2000/MCP...
http:// supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron2000/MCP55/H8DM3-2.cfm
http://tyan.com/ product_board_detail.aspx?pid=163

dual opteron systems you much cheaper DDR2 or DDR 1 ECC of older 940 opteron systems. FB-DIMMS cost a lot more.
July 21, 2007 6:45:16 PM

If I wanted to stay with the MB I have could I use this Raid control card? PROMISE SUPERTRAK EX12350 PCI-E x8 SATA II High-Performance Controller Card RAID 0/1/5/6/10/50 JBOD It is more expensive but using this MB I can go with bigger cpu's later on. What do you think?

Thank you for your suggestions.
July 21, 2007 7:33:54 PM

I just found this MB that may work with the AMCC (9500S12) ASUS P5K WS LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
July 21, 2007 7:56:16 PM

The reviews on the ASUS MB aove weren't too good and I found a server board that has a PCI-x slot SUPERMICRO X7DVL-E-O Dual Socket 771 Intel 5000V ATX Server Motherboard that looks like it will work. Any thoughts?
July 21, 2007 8:27:10 PM

you are better off with pci-e raid 5 or 6 card then a pci-x one and get low end pci-e video card.
There sever board uses high cost FB-DIMMS and does not have a pci-e x16 slot.

If you want a severe board wait for the new exon chipset with ECC RAM and more pci-e lanes + the new amd quad-cores.
July 21, 2007 9:29:56 PM

I agree with not going with the server board and using the pci-e card.

So, my final configuration would be the same as above except no AMCC card and the addition of the Promise Supertrak ex12350 pci-e x8 card mention above and a cheaper VC maybe this ASUS EN6200LE/TC256/TD/64 GeForce 6200LE 256MB(64MB on Board) 32-bit DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card for 35.00. Yes are we there?
July 23, 2007 3:20:19 PM

Another question, does anyone know using the above MB can I add a dedicated Raid Controller card in the Pci-e slot or is this slot for graphics cards only?

Thank you
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