Hi, I'm planning to upgrade my system and I think an Athlon 64 x2 5000+ would be nice, since I've heard the Windsor type is better and at the same price I would like one... the problem is I don't know how to see wich one is or isn't windsor :\ I watched some google pictures of boxed and unboxed cpu's but I couldn't find the type's name.... so, anyone knows how to see this before buying?