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suicidekid   07-25-2007 at 04:50:11 AM

i have a radon 9250 128 agp 8x4


amd athlon[tm]xp 2000+ 1.67 ghz 1.00gb of ram win xp


montor 17 inch lcd 1025/769 pixels


i play world of warcraft right now frame rate 18 20 ish

thinking of one of these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161053 $74


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814103033 $59


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161053 $74

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814241044 $69


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814143040 $69

as i said looking cheep as i can till i diside on the whole new build as i posted in home built the radon 9250 i hate it i log in to the game see shadow dots where players are saposed to be for a few mins then i see the players poping all around me lots say its the video card


Message edited by suicidekid on 07-25-2007 at 04:53:16 AM
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suicidekid   07-25-2007 at 09:38:08 PM
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what one would be alot better then the ati radon 9250 128 agp 4x8 ???

also should i be runing at 1024 by 768 pixels 96 dpi 75 herts

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emp   07-25-2007 at 09:54:55 PM
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The only acceptable card there is the X1650Pro. You can maybe run at 1280x1024 with that card (Sorry I don't know how demanding WoW is). You're also probably going to need a CPU upgrade, because I have the feeling that it needs also a decent amount of CPU power. But then again, I could be wrong.

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jtt283   07-25-2007 at 10:02:58 PM
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I have been told that WoW benefits from more RAM too.
Your wallet will benefit from forgoing the WoW monthly subscription and upgrading to Guild Wars. After you buy any campaign, you can play as often and as long as you like. The x1650 should play it well.

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suicidekid   07-25-2007 at 10:19:40 PM
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the thing is i have 2 computers side by side a dell dimension 8100 piece of junk i used to be able to play wow on but now its gonna hit the trash can i plan on building a whole new rig very soon but would like to up grade the video card on this one too the radon 9250 128 seems to be a piece of junk i was talked into buying

the game plays ok with 1gig ram well to me it doess lol

i just want a better video card then the radon 9250 till i build my new rig

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suicidekid   07-25-2007 at 10:29:56 PM
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some say intell outhers say amd some say gforce outhers say ati so its geting confusing to build my new rig

mobo combo ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Brisbane 2.3GHz Socket AM2 Processor Model ADO4400DDBOX - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131013

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103776

ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820134488

http://www.newegg.com/product/prod [...] 6820134488

http://www.newegg.com/product/prod [...] 6822144415

avage cost $488


outhers wrote

okay the ram is good but let me make a few suggestions. i suggest an intel e4300 paired with a gigabyte s3 motherboard. instead of that hdd, get the 160gb western digital aajs model. i think a x1950xt would be perfect as ur not worried about dx10 and that card should be more than able. i suggest the antec sonata 3 case as it has good acoustics and a pretty efficient power supply included. let me know what you think.


whether you need 512mb of ram in ur video card is dependent on the resolution and aa you want to run. if you are running something less than 1600x1200 then 256mb is more than enough. plus the x1950xt is one of the best performing card of its generation. its only problem is the high temps, stiff power requirements and a bit of fan noise. if any of those are a problem for you then i suggest the nvidia 7900gs, another solid performer that should run wow well. the x2's are pretty good performers but the e4300 is on a different level overclocking wise as are most conroe processors. right now im using an e4300 that i overclocked to 2.15 ghz while undervolting it by .5 volts. plus an e4300 goes for around 110 dollars now and a gigabyte s3 board can be had for 100 dollars. a little less than what you were going to pay for the amd.


is his choice better or mine my budget about $500


Message edited by suicidekid on 07-25-2007 at 10:31:54 PM
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TenaciousleyDead   07-25-2007 at 11:09:00 PM
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deff go with the x1650pro, way better than that other junk. id think about over-clocking your proc a little bit also. any other higher end video card will be bottlenecked

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suicidekid   07-25-2007 at 11:25:46 PM
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i have a asrock 880 upgrade would need some jumppers i think to oc the proc and some have said i may have a probrom with bottlenecking

is the e4500 and gigabyte a good choice im looking to build a new pc for under $500 links would be good

i have this case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811156062

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Martell77   07-25-2007 at 11:46:15 PM
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Go for the X1650Pro, but look into getting the GDDR3 version. I have the same card but with 512mb. I play WoW, Doom3 and Oblivion without trouble. Not sure if the added memory helps me but it doesn't hurt. Out of the listed choices the X1650Pro is the best, but I would definately try for the GDDR3 version, is a little more that the GDDR2 you have listed but worth the extra.



Good Luck.

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emp   07-25-2007 at 11:49:13 PM
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The added memory only helps in increasing the costs, that card is way wayyy too weak to use more than 256mb of video ram.

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Martell77   07-26-2007 at 12:20:10 AM
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When I got mine the 1950's where the top dog and it was the best card that fit my budget. Wasn't long after that the 8series came out from nvidia. Its a good card, not the most powerful, but still good. I got the 512 so I could be sure not to have any GPU memory issues, never really thought about the power of the card not being able to use it, always figured if its there the card would likely use it if/when needed.

Anyways, I was just advising he get the GDDR3 version, I only stated what amount of memory I have as a reference. If the card aint gonna use it, then the 256 GDDR3 would be the best in his price range. Agree?

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suicidekid   07-26-2007 at 12:21:48 AM
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ok so going with the X1650Pro for my old pc


what do you guys think for a whole new build amd build list i have linked or go with the intell e4500 and gigabyte s3 board video x1950xt so many in wow say amd and geforce on here lots say intell ati ive never oc or anything my pc about 6 years old time to up date lol i dont need a super computer or dx 10 i only play wow eq eq 2

i need 2gig ram a mobo video card prossor and a hdd for around $500 i have win xp still so whats best for my type of games

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emp   07-26-2007 at 12:28:12 AM
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Martell77 wrote :

When I got mine the 1950's where the top dog and it was the best card that fit my budget. Wasn't long after that the 8series came out from nvidia. Its a good card, not the most powerful, but still good. I got the 512 so I could be sure not to have any GPU memory issues, never really thought about the power of the card not being able to use it, always figured if its there the card would likely use it if/when needed.

Anyways, I was just advising he get the GDDR3 version, I only stated what amount of memory I have as a reference. If the card aint gonna use it, then the 256 GDDR3 would be the best in his price range. Agree?



Yup agreed.

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Hatman   07-26-2007 at 01:00:58 AM
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1650xt / 7600gt is min. card you should go for, ever!

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Martell77   07-26-2007 at 01:28:58 AM
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Well there are 2 XT's and 2 Pro's in AGP on Newegg right now. Both are GDDR3, the XT's have 512mb and the Pro's are 256. The biggest different I see is that the XT's are priced at just under $160 and the Pro's are $89.99. The Pro's will suit his needs and fit his budget.

Seeing as he is looking to do a new build and just a upgrade on this comp, plus factor in the processor, getting the XT seems to me that it would be a waste without overclocking the proc.

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