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Hey, I'm currently looking forward to buying a complete new rig and I really want it to be futureproof as I don't have thousands of dollars to put on computers :p Here are the 2 set-ups I came out with, I really cant make a decision :(:( ( All prices are in Canuc money :p )


1066 FSB


Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Quad Core Processor LGA775 Kentsfield 2.40GHZ 1066FSB 8MB Retail Box

Mushkin EM PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit

Asus P5N-E Sli Nforce 650I Sli LGA775 Conroe Atx 2PCI-E16 1PCI-E1 2PCI SATA2 Sound Gblan Motherboard

Western Digital Caviar SE16 250GB SATA2 7200RPM 16MB 8.9MS Hard Drive 3YR Mfr Warranty

LG GSA-H62N SATA DVD+RW 18X8X16 DVD-RW 18X6X16 DL 10X Black OEM DVD Writer W/ SW

OCZ GameXStream 700W ATX12V 24PIN SLI Ready Active PFC ATX Power Supply 120MM Fan Black

Antec Nine Hundred Mid Tower Gamer Case 900 Atx 9 Drive Bay No Ps Top USB2.0 1394 Audio



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133 3 FSB



Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Dual Core Processor LGA775 Conroe 2.66GHZ 1333FSB 4MB Retail

Mushkin XP2 PC2-8500 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-1066 CL5-5-4-12 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit

Asus P5K Atx LGA775 P35 DDR2 2PCI-E16 3PCI 1PCI-E1 SATA2 Sound Gblan 1394 Motherboard

Western Digital Caviar SE16 250GB SATA2 7200RPM 16MB 8.9MS Hard Drive 3YR Mfr Warranty

OCZ GameXStream 700W ATX12V 24PIN SLI Ready Active PFC ATX Power Supply 120MM Fan Black

LG GSA-H54N DVD+RW 18X8X16 DVD-RW 18X6X16 DL 10X DVD Writer IDE 2MB Black OEM W/ SW

Antec Nine Hundred Mid Tower Gamer Case 900 Atx 9 Drive Bay No Ps Top USB2.0 1394 Audio


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well, futureproofing is never a sure thing... though i didnt see that you had a gpu listed either (i could have missed it though)... unless youre planning on using on board, whichcase, yeah... otherwise, depending on your monitors native resolution, one of the 8800s may be a good idea

quad core definetly, as an OC can easily make up the difference between the 2 cpus anyhow... and the price is fairly reasonable now too

as far as memory, 2GB is a good starting point (regardless of speed), since ram is always going to be faster than going with a mechanical hdd for virtual memory... whichcase, going with anything above ddr2-800 may be overkill, TBH (unless you plan on some extreme OCing)

sidenote suggestion: you may want a second hdd for data redundancy, manual backing up works fine, so you dont need to bother with the possible added complexities and disappointments of using raid
 
I'd go with setup #1 but changing the mobo to Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R. Don't like Asus these days, and P35 is more future-proof than 650i.

The other parts are all high quality, nice work :lol:

Is this going to be a gaming machine? Add an 8800 GTS or GTX, depending on how big your monitor and budget are... Personally I like eVGA, BFG and Gigabyte, don't like Asus, Sparkle, PNY.

Will you overclock? If yes add a Scythe Ninja cooler and an S-Flex fan to the list. If not, I'd get an Antec P182 instead of Antec 900, it's quieter.
 

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I currently have a x1950pro but I'll be buying 2 8800gts and put them in SLI.

I run games at 1680 x 1050 with a 22" WS monitor and my x1950pro isnt doing it really...

I was wondering what kind of mobos work with 1333FSB cpus... ?
 


You're better off with a single 8800 GTX instead of two 8800 GTS. Plenty of threads on this subject, do a search. SLI has issues about buggy drivers, heat, noise, power consumption, system RAM being grabbed by the drivers (as in, maybe as much as 1 GB, yuck), cost, etc. Performance is nowhere near double that of a single card either, it's more like 0 to 80% more depending on lots of factors.

I'd get a BFG 8800 GTX OC2 or an eVGA 8800 GTX ACS3.
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=22175&vpn=768-P2-N837-AR&manufacture=eVGA
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=23201&vpn=BFGR88768GTXOC2E&manufacture=BFG Technologies

If you do want SLI after all then you need something based on 680i.
650i will make the second card work at only 8x, and P35 won't accept a second card at all. The 680i chipset accepts FSB1333 CPUs (with a BIOS update). P35 accepts them without worries about BIOS updates.

You could also wait 4 or 5 months, with lower settings maybe in some games to keep the x1950Pro happy. The new card promised by nVidia for Thanksgiving or Christmas will apparently be much better than the 8800 GTX.
 

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I know the basic at building computers but nothing about bios... Would it be complicated to install a BIOS update for 1333FSB?

I don't plan overclocking much... what motherboard would save me money if I don't plan on going SLI?

Would the GA-P35-S3L do the job for my needs?


Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Dual Core Processor LGA775 Conroe 2.66GHZ 1333FSB 4MB Retail
Gigabyte GA-P35-S3L ATX LGA775 P35 1333FSB 1PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 3PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN 1394 Motherboard
Mushkin EM PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit
Western Digital Caviar SE16 250GB SATA2 7200RPM 16MB 8.9MS Hard Drive 3YR Mfr Warranty
OCZ GameXStream 700W ATX12V 24PIN SLI Ready Active PFC ATX Power Supply 120MM Fan Black
LG GSA-H54N DVD+RW 18X8X16 DVD-RW 18X6X16 DL 10X DVD Writer IDE 2MB Black OEM W/ SW
Antec Nine Hundred Mid Tower Gamer Case 900 Atx 9 Drive Bay No Ps Top USB2.0 1394 Audio
 
I agree with aevm's comments about SLI, mobo, and RAM. The case is purely personal choice. They both look really nice. The 900 looks flashier; the P182 more subdued.
I'm going with a Gigabyte mobo myself (the micro-ATX version). The quad runs hotter and draws more power, even before any o/c. Partly for that reason, and because no game I play benefits from four cores, I chose the e6750 myself. I don't see how you wouldn't like either one.
Very nice build.
 

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I cannot find any reviews for the Gigabyte GA-P35-S3L, does anybody know if it's any good for someone that doesn't really plan on overclocking?

Thank you for the replies aevm and jtt283 :)