Has anyone seen anything anyone running an e6750 or one of the other new chips on a older 965? I've been searching but haven't come across anything yet. As a Rev 2 DS3 user, I'm definetly most interested and I'm sure others are as well!
What I was wondering was, if you stuck say a e6750 on a pre rev 3.3 board and overlocked the fsb to 1333, wouldn't that work? Or does the bio have to have strap, otherwise the chip won't operate?
Not completely sure i'm answering you're question, and i guess it all depends on you're mobo and bios, but a quick random search turns up that an E6750 chip is supported by this gigabyte Rev 2 DS3 mobo
On Gigabyte's site under compatible processors the site says that for the rev 2 DS3 the e6550, e6750 and e6850 are all compatible. The qx6850 is not though. Kind strange since on the rev 2 next to the FSB box it says that the FSB is 1066 while on the rev 3.3 it states 1333. I'm curious whether that means that if you plug the chip in it runs with the same multiplier but at 1066 mhz fsb, or if it actually goes to 1333 mhz. When you look at the rev. 1 of the board none of the 1333 chips are supported. I've always wondered about the differences between the rev 2/3.3, Gigabyte has the Rev 2 and 3.3 of the G965 sharing the same compatibility page. Very strange.
I'm doing a bit of a hi-jack here. I've been wondering about nearly the same thing as the OP, although I'm interested in i975X based boards, specifically the ASUS P5W DH Deluxe. ASUS states FSB1333 support as of BIOS 2205 beta, but what would happen if a new FSB1333 C2D was put on a board that is "C2D aware", but not yet "FSB1333 aware"?
Would the board POST and detect the processor as "Unknown Core2 Processor" (or something like that) or would it not recognize the processor at all.
In essence, will we see a repeat of last year's C2D problems, that called for interim P4 or Celeron processors to be installed to do a BIOS update, so the C2D processors were recognized?
arianon: as for the Gigabyte website, they've always been a bit on the funny side when it comes to having the correct drivers for their chipsets, generally if i have and nVidia chipset i'll DL the drivers from nVidia and the same with intel, i've had 3 Gigabyte boards so far and loved every one of them, but the drivers on their website are often old or just plane and simple the wrong drivers like right now on their site the drivers for my current board are the nVidia Window NT drivers not the XP drivers, and in games i did notice a couple more FPS once i got the correct drivers from nVidia. the only thing i really trust the Gigabyte site for is their sound drivers and their bios. As far as CPU compatability I'd probably trust them since it's all up to the bios.
Now as for FSB speeds i have no clue, Intel and board manufacturers have so many variants of cipsets supporting/not supporting 1333mhz that I've given up trying to keep up, maybe try giving Gigabyte customer support an email, although from experience Gigabyte customer support is a bit of myth, I've never heard back from them.
That is exactly what I was wondering, trying to decided between a q6600 and a e6850/e6750. Although if my motherboard won't take the latter makes it an easy decision
GeOMan:
I feel the same way, this is my 2nd gigabyte board in a row and loved them both. I sent a msg to Gigabyte about the wierdness of their site, and how my board (rev 2 ds3) wasn't even listed when you go to support and try to find it, they sent me a link to he correct page. You'd think they'd want to fix their website...
This may help u , i have a GIGABYTE 965 DS4 , REV1.0 , and i asked gigabyte , and here is the answer and the questions :
Question :
HI, I am going to buy a 1333MHZ cpu soon , and i have gigabyte 965pDS4 REV1.0 , will it support 1333MHZ with a BIOS update or no?
thanx
Answer : Dear Sir,
Thank you for your kindly mail and supporting GIGABYTE.
About the issue you mentioned in your earlier mail, the CPU is still under developing, once the CPU is launched, will update CPU support list on our website for reference.
Question : thank you , well i live in UK , and an online shop has those 1333MHZ FSB CPU's in stock ,and i want to buy them , so what shall i do ?
Answer : Dear Sir,
Thank you again for your kindly mail and inquiry. In our opinion, please make sure the CPU is official and boxed Intel CPU and at this moment, as we know, FSB 1333MHz CPU is only Engineering Samples and we do not recommend you using such CPU on GIGABYTE motherboard and will not gurantee the CPU will work on GIGABYTE motherboards and any other results.
Question : Thank you again , well Core2Duo E6750 is available for purchase in this site :
So as you see it is availabe and thats the CPU i want , so will my MotherBoard support it ?
Please gigabyte , many other manufactures have released a BIOS for their 965P series to support 1333MHZ CPU ,
Looking forward hearing from you
Answer : Dear Sir,
Thank you again for your kindly mail and inquiry. We are sorry only rev 2.x or above MB supports FSB 1333 CPUs.
Question : Oh , i had to buy that ASUS mobo instead of mine , at least that supports 1333mhz cpu's ,
very funny , rev2 and rev3 will support but rev1 doesnt , u made me regret buying gigabyte motherboards EVER , that's the first and the last Gigabyte board i ever have!!
Answer : Dear Sir,
Thank you again for your kindly mail and inquiry. In fact, when you install FSB1333 CPU on rev1.x motherboard, you have to set FSB speed manually. Only rev2.x and 3.x will set proper FSB speed automaitcally. Thus, we do not highlight FSB1333 CPU on our website because of the reason.
When i wanted to buy my gigabyte ds4 . i could buy ASUS P5B DELUXE , and that supports 1333MHZ CPU's
arianon, I'm having more or less the same decision-making problems as you. Since the E6600 apparently isn't available here any longer and the E6700 costs more than even the E6850, I've been looking long and hard at the Q6600 which uses FSB1066. However, I believe I won't need 4 cores for the foreseeable future and why waste electricity and generate extra heat on some something I don't really need right now.
It's a real shame that manufacturers like ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI and the like aren't more forthcoming about the capabilities of their products. I've earlier tried contacting ASUS on another matter and the replies were nonsensical, if they came at all.
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ga p965 ds3 rev 1.3 and up support upto 2000fsb, sometimes even higher. when intel says that you need a motherbord that supprts 1066 or 1333 fsb they just telling you that your mothers needs either fsb@ 266 or fbs @ 333. in other words.. you're fine.
from my understanding and that email to gigabyte posted, it sounds like you just have to set the FSB manually, rev2/3.3 will automatically adjust for the speed.
so if your running 1066, just OC to 1333. i have a ds3 rev 1 and it runs 1333 FSB and faster just fine.
ga p965 ds3 rev 1.3 and up support upto 2000fsb, sometimes even higher. when intel says that you need a motherbord that supprts 1066 or 1333 fsb they just telling you that your mothers needs either fsb@ 266 or fbs @ 333. in other words.. you're fine.
I think you meant to say that they are 'capable' of 2000fsb. The manufacturer does not actually 'support' 2000fsb speeds.
look when manufacture says "support xxx fsb" they mean they support chip that do xxxx fsb. if there was a chip with a 1600fsb the ga 965p will support it because thats only actual 400fsb
No, P965 supports 1066 and now 1333 with BIOS update but these are the CPU rated FSB, not that / 4. The intel board from 4 yrs ago support 800MHz FSB, meaning 200MHz bus & 400MHz ram, not 800MHz ram. So without any further updates no 965P does not support a 1600MHz FSB.
I have seen two threADS where someone mentions running 1333 fsb (E6X50 chips) on DS3 rev 1 boards. So so far the future is looking good for P965 users.
Message edited by little_scrapper on 07-27-2007 at 10:36:17 PM
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