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Jakc   08-02-2007 at 02:04:37 PM

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showth [...] 1335063179

Seems like ati did a good job, refining these latest set of drivers.
I really wonder where this brings ati cards compared to nvidia cards, especially the 2600xt.

Can people with ati cards download these drivers and do some benches?

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Jakc   08-02-2007 at 02:08:23 PM
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A reply from someone using the drivers:

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Ok interesting they fixed the AA performance hit, at least in Css as far as I know... Here's my tests with this driver and the 7.7 drivers at 1440x900 all maxed...

7.7
4xAA - 177 fps
8xAA - 153 fps

7.8 beta
4xAA - 198 fps
8xAA - 182 fps

Whats interesting is that if you look and see 8x AA in these drivers runs faster than 4xAA in the old drivers--- and these are only beta drivers, so Awesome job Amd/Ati!!!

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bfellow   08-02-2007 at 03:10:00 PM
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Wow the 7.8 beta was released so fast since 7.7 sucked!

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Bronze Graphics badge EXT64   08-02-2007 at 03:29:51 PM
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I have them for the 2900XT. Seems to have done quite a bit. Oblivion runs a few FPS faster with AA. The card also uses more power/runs hotter. There may still be hope for this card :lol:

------------------------------ Phenom II X4 940 BE 3.0GHz - 1.25V > GA-MA790GP-DS4H > XFX ATI 4850 1GB > 4GB OCZ Platinum 1066MHz 5-5-5-15-2T > PCP&C 610W
Athlon II X2 250 3.0GHz > GA-MA770T-UD3P > Sapphire ATI 4650 512MB DDR3 > 4GB OCZ Platinum 1600MHz@1066MHz > XP/Win7 Enter 64
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Dade_0182   08-02-2007 at 03:59:39 PM
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At least something is done to a rather disappointing set of releases from AMD

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Jakc   08-02-2007 at 10:46:26 PM
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Noone else tried this driver?

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mactronix   08-02-2007 at 10:55:15 PM
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unless i see lots of posts saying they are the bees knees i will wait until they apear on the ati site thanks all the same :)
Mactronix

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Bronze Graphics badge EXT64   08-02-2007 at 11:32:19 PM
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I would have waited for the real drivers too, they should be out late-August if everything goes well. I wanted to get them now because I am going to college in a couple of weeks (w/o my 2900XT), so I wouldn't get to use the better drivers. At the rate these drivers are improving, when I come back thanksgiving/christmas this card should be really awesome :lol:

------------------------------ Phenom II X4 940 BE 3.0GHz - 1.25V > GA-MA790GP-DS4H > XFX ATI 4850 1GB > 4GB OCZ Platinum 1066MHz 5-5-5-15-2T > PCP&C 610W
Athlon II X2 250 3.0GHz > GA-MA770T-UD3P > Sapphire ATI 4650 512MB DDR3 > 4GB OCZ Platinum 1600MHz@1066MHz > XP/Win7 Enter 64
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Bronze Graphics badge jaguarskx   08-03-2007 at 12:50:07 AM
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Oooh, nice.

Hopefully, the official drivers will come out by the end of this month. Not really in a rush right now 'cause I'm currently replaying the oldie, but goody Diablo II: LoD.

I guess I missed listening to the music.

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ryokinshin   08-03-2007 at 03:13:28 AM
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dear god lmao, youve just got to let go, its going to take some time, and therapy......maybe


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goldragon_70   08-03-2007 at 04:17:57 AM
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That's great for the x2000 series, but what about the x1000 series, has anyone said if it improve there performance or not?

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omerome   08-03-2007 at 05:57:23 AM
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Meh so I'm guessing it wouldn't affect my ATI 9800 Pro video card right? :P

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paladin13   08-03-2007 at 08:11:47 AM
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At least someone is improving drivers...
AMD/ATI did a great job once again and more is expected!
X2900XT has improved a lot the past two months just by releasing new drivers!
Not to mention that the AA / AF problem seems to be dramatically improved! AA/AF performance is now at hgh levels!
Well done ATI/AMD!


Message edited by paladin13 on 08-03-2007 at 08:13:38 AM
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GeOMan   08-03-2007 at 10:33:49 AM
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That settles it, i'm not waiting for a next gen card any more, 2900XT here i come :>

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Hatman   08-03-2007 at 11:35:40 AM
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Now all they need to do is bring out a 65nm version and we have one super card!!

 

If it came out id probably upgrade to it, since its need for energy and giving out heat are its 2 main weaknessess. 65nm might even be able to bring it down to double digits!


Message edited by Hatman on 08-03-2007 at 11:36:42 AM
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Rabidpeanut   08-03-2007 at 11:54:32 AM
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KICK ***! I am off to get them RIGHT NOW!

Hopefully they added a even a tiny bit of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Support.

This card ROCKS.

7.8 W007 w00t woo7!

i don't think the x1000 performance moved at all DAAMIT has bigger fish to fry right now and the x2 series are only half cooked as far as i can see, cause i love the card but errors in stalker like screwed text and vpu errors that don't actually affect anything do get irritating. FINALLY I CAN USE 24X AA YAY! YAY! YAY!

Observe the happiness of my post!

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!!!!!!!! one eleven!1! one hundered and eleven !!1111!!! exclamation mark !!.

Now i just need to find a .torrent with the beta....


Message edited by Rabidpeanut on 08-03-2007 at 11:56:41 AM
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Jakc   08-03-2007 at 12:50:34 PM
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Yes performance improvements have been noticed for older ATI hardware as well, allthough those improvements are minor compared to the improvements people see in the HD2000 family.

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justjc   08-03-2007 at 02:07:29 PM
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Why look for a torrent when http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/G [...] Beta.shtml has it for you ;)
If you want the Vista verison it can be found at http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/G [...] -Driver-78 -Beta.shtml (you have to remove the space between 78 and Beta to make this link work)


Message edited by justjc on 08-03-2007 at 02:11:12 PM
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Bronze Graphics badge EXT64   08-03-2007 at 02:12:22 PM
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Just google search 7.8 Beta and plenty of legit sites will have the drivers (like the sites JustJC linked to).

The drivers were "leaked" on purpose, probably because they were so good and nearly done.


Message edited by EXT64 on 08-03-2007 at 02:13:27 PM
------------------------------ Phenom II X4 940 BE 3.0GHz - 1.25V > GA-MA790GP-DS4H > XFX ATI 4850 1GB > 4GB OCZ Platinum 1066MHz 5-5-5-15-2T > PCP&C 610W
Athlon II X2 250 3.0GHz > GA-MA770T-UD3P > Sapphire ATI 4650 512MB DDR3 > 4GB OCZ Platinum 1600MHz@1066MHz > XP/Win7 Enter 64
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rammedstein   08-03-2007 at 02:21:37 PM
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http://www.station-drivers.com/page/ati%20catalyst.htm

a link to download them without the torrent, i saw an average of 20 fps improvement in most games, which demonstrates how well xfire scales again...


Message edited by rammedstein on 08-03-2007 at 02:24:06 PM
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mactronix   08-03-2007 at 02:24:19 PM
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Always the waty if its good leak it if its crap sweep it under the carpet or release it with a raft of other stuff so poeple wont notice
Mactronix

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bfellow   08-03-2007 at 02:47:35 PM
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hmm 3 more months then I might get a 2900...

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rcc00073   08-03-2007 at 05:27:17 PM
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is it useful for my 9200se??

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barthautala   08-03-2007 at 07:09:17 PM
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Any performance specs on the 2600 versions?

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barthautala   08-03-2007 at 07:12:33 PM
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Nevermind...........those cards suck anyways

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FeareX   08-03-2007 at 07:36:09 PM
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I said it from the start, the 2900 drivers just need to be improved...

And i was right! :)

------------------------------ Desktop: AMD Athlon 4200+ (2,66Ghz), 2GB DDR, Ati Radeon HD3870, Samsung Syncmaster 19" 931bw | Windows 7 build 7600 x64 (RTM)
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Heyyou27   08-03-2007 at 07:52:06 PM
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Awesome news; hopefully this drives the prices of the 8800GTS and GTX.

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Jakc   08-04-2007 at 04:48:44 PM
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Good point.
I just saw that some people also report lower performance on some older cards.
Strange...

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spuddyt   08-04-2007 at 05:12:26 PM
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so is the 2900 with these drivers better than a gts 640 with it's latest drivers? also Hatman (its probably me just being uninformed) but when would this 65 nm version come out?

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Hatman   08-04-2007 at 05:53:16 PM
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supposely q4 07 / q1 08

But ive been reading that its actually been cancelled, instead it appears they are bringing out a 55nm 2900"pro" dual card. So 2 of the 2900pros they had planned but instead put on 55nm prossess onto 1 card, like the 2600xt gemini.

Meant to beat the Ultra and because its 55nm wont take hardly any power, might even see double digits, it would be nice.

------------------------------ Na na na na na na na na HATMAN!
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spuddyt   08-05-2007 at 12:05:18 AM
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I really would like a relatively high performance card (by nowadays standards) that didn't require monstrous cooling and power and i don't care about nv vs amd fanboyism

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