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July 28, 2007 6:51:49 PM

Hi everybody,

I have a newly-purchased Acer desktop with a Q6600 (2.4GHz) with B3 steppings. I installed and fired up Everest and it gives the following info on my core temps:

Core 1: 56C
Core 2: 57C
Core 3: 55C
Core 4: 49C

All of this is during normal use - ie. web surfing and such, not into heavy gaming.

Truthfully I don't know much about what's acceptable / unacceptable regarding CPU temps, but this seems a bit high to me. Could somebody please advise? And if they are excessive, what can I do about it?

Thanks in advance!

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July 28, 2007 6:56:04 PM

wooodman said:
Hi everybody,

I have a newly-purchased Acer desktop with a Q6600 (2.4GHz) with B3 steppings. I installed and fired up Everest and it gives the following info on my core temps:

Core 1: 56C
Core 2: 57C
Core 3: 55C
Core 4: 49C

All of this is during normal use - ie. web surfing and such, not into heavy gaming.

Truthfully I don't know much about what's acceptable / unacceptable regarding CPU temps, but this seems a bit high to me. Could somebody please advise? And if they are excessive, what can I do about it?

Thanks in advance!


Those temps appear to be way too high under normal use. My idle temp on speedfan is like 26C at 75F room temp.

http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
July 28, 2007 8:16:49 PM

mine is being watercooled and Nvidia monitor says it is 40 celcius. I have to see what everest says.
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July 30, 2007 2:15:19 AM

Several retailers are shipping the B3 when you order Q6600 and I don't think they will allow customers to request the G0 shipping. I don't want to risk it then so I wonder if it makes sense to buy E6750 or E6850.

What do you guys think?

I could have used the Quad Core (doing video stuff) but I don't want to worry about heat and needing to buy an expensive heatsink to cool a B3 chip.
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July 30, 2007 2:24:50 AM

Canuck1 said:
Several retailers are shipping the B3 when you order Q6600 and I don't think they will allow customers to request the G0 shipping. I don't want to risk it then so I wonder if it makes sense to buy E6750 or E6850.

What do you guys think?

I could have used the Quad Core (doing video stuff) but I don't want to worry about heat and needing to buy an expensive heatsink to cool a B3 chip.


The q6600 has no heat problems. You are misinformed if you think the chip runs hot. My q6600 idles at 25c at 75f room tempature. I have been running the q6600 since March. It is the coolest running chip I have ever owned and by far.
July 30, 2007 2:36:01 AM

badge said:
The q6600 has no heat problems. You are misinformed if you think the chip runs hot. My q6600 idles at 25c at 75f room tempature. I have been running the q6600 since March. It is the coolest running chip I have ever owned and by far.

How am I misinformed? Many people are talking about the heat and the problems overclocking (although, that is not what I wanted it for). It's 105 watts v.s. 65 watts for the G0 stepping E6x50 chips. Unless, you can get the G0 stepping Q6600, it runs hot (and it's only a reduction of 10 watts so you still need good air cooling and thus, a good heatsink). If that is not true, then a lot of people are saying false things.
July 30, 2007 3:37:57 AM

If that Acer is using the stock heatsink I would change it out for a heatsink that has heatpipes. I just got my Q6600 with the B3 stepping yesterday. I am using a Artic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro heatsink with mine and Artic Silver 5 thermal paste. My core with the lowest temp is 38 at idle using Coretemp to monitor the temps. My highest temp core is 44 at idle and the temps should drop a little more after the AS5 breaks in. I got my Freezer 7 Pro at Directron for 20 bucks with free shipping. You dont have to remove the motherboard to replace the heatsink and it will probably take you about ten minutes to swap it out if you have any experience with building your own computer. The heatsink even comes with MX1 thermal paste pre applied! I always use AS5 thermal paste but the MX1 paste is supposed to be pretty good also. Finally I apply my thermal paste to the whole top of the cpu. I find the instructions at the Artic Silver website (put a line of paste down the middle of the cpu) doesn't give enough enough coverage to these multicore cpus.
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July 30, 2007 3:52:59 AM

Canuck1 said:
How am I misinformed? Many people are talking about the heat and the problems overclocking (although, that is not what I wanted it for). It's 105 watts v.s. 65 watts for the G0 stepping E6x50 chips. Unless, you can get the G0 stepping Q6600, it runs hot (and it's only a reduction of 10 watts so you still need good air cooling and thus, a good heatsink). If that is not true, then a lot of people are saying false things.


Your are terribly misinformed. The people who have problems with heat are the ones jacking the unit's voltage around, twisting the FSB to 500 mhz. and generally pushing their components beyond their means. You get the posts, "Is my temp too high at 500 mhz fsb?" "Hi, I increased the vcore to 1.75v and my system is not stable?" "Is the stock heatsink good enough if I plan to run my q6600 beyond 3.3?" "Is burning silicone something I should recognize immediately...I smell something at 1.8v?"

There is no problem whatsoever with heat regarding the Q6600. Your worries are for not. You are concerned with fables. Over concerned is the operative word. Not buying a Q6600 because of heat issues is really misinformed thinking.

I am very busy, if you look at the task bar at the bottom of the screenshot of my current desktop you will see the part of the maybe 2 dozen tasks I was doing when this was taken. In adition, I have a slingbox running and watching Dish network. Notice my temps. Temps are of absolutely NO concern with my Q6600. Never have been. I could not be more pleased with my system. Heat is a non issue.

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7897/dtopvista3227br8.jpg

Running since March '07, idles at 29C multitasking two dozen functions at once.

Q6600
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G. Skill PC6400 4GB 4-4-4-12
EVGA 7900GTO 512 MB
WD 150 SATA RAPTOR Vista HP 32
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WD 250 SATA storage
ASUS DVD-ROM
ASUS DVD-RW Lightscribe
Thermaltake 700 watt quad 12v rail PSU
Thermaltake Mozart tower
Thermaltake media Lab Led Remote control
Zalman 9500 Led HSF
Audigy 2 Soundblaster
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Vista Experience rating is 5.9.
July 30, 2007 4:09:11 AM

This is why I build my own computers, I'm not going to trust anyone else.
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July 30, 2007 4:13:11 AM

I dabble for years overclocking my builds. It is funny to say, but I have never even overclocked my q6600. I was thrilled and complete total smiles when I dropped in the q6600 replacing the e6600 C2D. This is a great machine. It will be very hard to resist Penryn. You know...Intel may end up breaking anti-trust laws trying to patent this latest round of processors. Really nice system.
July 31, 2007 1:45:56 PM

Well...I have a B3 stepping Q6600 running on an MSI P6N SLI-FI motherboard with stock cooling, stock settings (no overclocking). According to the BIOS hardware monitor, my temps are around 46C idle, whereas my old E6600 (again, stock everything) was around 42C idle...
July 31, 2007 7:47:17 PM

Thanks for your replies guys,

I don't know what kind of cooling system the 'puter is using, I'm guessing it's stock based on the attractive pricing. A few more questions:

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My core with the lowest temp is 38 at idle using Coretemp to monitor the temps. My highest temp core is 44 at idle and the temps should drop a little more after the AS5 breaks in.


Ok that's heartening, those temp's aren't THAT much lower than the temp's I'm getting so I have some hope to achieve those numbers with better cooling (hopefully).

What did you mean by "the temps should drop a little more after the AS5 breaks in"? Why would temp's improve over time?

Also, is it possible that I am getting incorrect temperature readings? I have no clue where these temperature sensors are located - I'm assuming they are sitting directly on each core - but I dunno. Is there a way to test whether the temp readings I'm getting are accurate? Or should I just accept the readings?

Thanks again for your help!
August 1, 2007 1:19:45 AM

I find it ironic that the one in the thread calling others misinformed is boasting about a 26C idle temp using Speedfan without realizing the temps it reports are 15C lower than actual. Priceless!
August 1, 2007 1:34:03 AM

antec900 said:
I find it ironic that the one in the thread calling others misinformed is boasting about a 26C idle temp using Speedfan without realizing the temps it reports are 15C lower than actual. Priceless!


That depends on which DTS he's reading from, core temps are always 15C higher than the IHS temp. When Badge said idles at 26C he was talking about Tcase not Tjunction. Core temp = Tjunction and IHS temp = Tcase.
August 1, 2007 2:24:39 AM

badge said:
Your are terribly misinformed. The people who have problems with heat are the ones jacking the unit's voltage around, twisting the FSB to 500 mhz. and generally pushing their components beyond their means. You get the posts, "Is my temp too high at 500 mhz fsb?" "Hi, I increased the vcore to 1.75v and my system is not stable?" "Is the stock heatsink good enough if I plan to run my q6600 beyond 3.3?" "Is burning silicone something I should recognize immediately...I smell something at 1.8v?"

There is no problem whatsoever with heat regarding the Q6600. Your worries are for not. You are concerned with fables. Over concerned is the operative word. Not buying a Q6600 because of heat issues is really misinformed thinking.

I am very busy, if you look at the task bar at the bottom of the screenshot of my current desktop you will see the part of the maybe 2 dozen tasks I was doing when this was taken. In adition, I have a slingbox running and watching Dish network. Notice my temps. Temps are of absolutely NO concern with my Q6600. Never have been. I could not be more pleased with my system. Heat is a non issue.


I must disagree. When you look at your CPU utilization it's very low. It's not drawing anywhere near its 105w upper limit. It's the coolest CPU you've ever owned because it's over powered for it's current use. This is a nice thing to finally say about a computer system (long time in coming).

I'm replacing a Pentium D950 with a Q6600 next Wednesday. My application (virtual server R2) will be using all 4 cores at 100% for up to 1/2 an hour. To combat the 105w draw I'm installing a big cooler:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1683... I'll let you know the temps by the end of next week.

The reason for the new cooler is that I'm currently using a pound of copper and a 42CFM fan on the Pentium D950. With this heat sink its still had two thermal events in the last couple months. The old D840 had a 109+ CFM fan (a tornado, nosey as heck) and was only 2 degrees away from giving me thermal events. It was fine when there was only one core running or had a slight spill over into the second core. However when it ran at 100% for 45 minutes it lead to problems.

The D840 had a 130 watt draw at 100% for both CPU's the 6600 only has 105 so I'm hopeful that the cooler above will easily handle it....

By the way does any one have a thought about this cooler before I spend the big $$?


August 1, 2007 3:29:42 AM

foste said:

By the way does any one have a thought about this cooler before I spend the big $$?



It might heat you room up a little, this cooler shovels heat out!
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August 1, 2007 3:33:28 AM

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I must disagree.


There is not a heat issue with the Q6600. You don't even own a Q6600 so disagree with someone else.

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When you look at your CPU utilization it's very low.


I have pushed my CPU very hard and I have no problem whatsoever with heat. Your generalizations make no sense. In fact, you make no sense whatsoever.

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It's not drawing anywhere near its 105w upper limit.



If It was, I would have no problem with heat.


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It's the coolest CPU you've ever owned because it's over powered for it's current use.


What. MY current use? What the hell do you know about MY current use? Absolutely nothing is what you know. I have been in private business for more than 20 years and own and have custom built dozens of computers. You don't know the first thing about MY use of computers? I am stepping into the world of digital X-ray, producing x-ray images with components that I'm sure you would not have any idea what system would work best and what system would not and for that matter what 'powered' anything properly as you put it.

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This is a nice thing to finally say about a computer system (long time in coming).


What? I have seven or eight computer running in perfect order in my home? I'm sorry, there is a misunderstanding?

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I'm replacing a Pentium D950 with a Q6600 next Wednesday. My application (virtual server R2) will be using all 4 cores at 100% for up to 1/2 an hour. To combat the 105w draw I'm installing a big cooler:


Great.

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?it em=N82E16835702002 I'll let you know the temps by the end of next week.


Your temps are irrelevant to me. I have no problem with my temps. I know what to do if I have high temps. Thanks.

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The reason for the new cooler is that I'm currently using a pound of copper and a 42CFM fan on the Pentium D950.


Heavy.


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With this heat sink its still had two thermal events in the last couple months.


Wow.


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The old D840 had a 109+ CFM fan (a tornado, nosey as heck) and was only 2 degrees away from giving me thermal events.


Ever thought about case design and airflow? A good 120mm case fan installed in the right configuratioin can lower your temps significantly.


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It was fine when there was only one core running or had a slight spill over into the second core. However when it ran at 100% for 45 minutes it lead to problems.


PSU?

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The D840 had a 130 watt draw at 100% for both CPU's the 6600 only has 105 so I'm hopeful that the cooler above will easily handle it....


The cooler will be fine despite it weight, it's the rest of the cooling you surround it with that matters at that point. The stock fan that comes with the Q6600 would cool your processor if you don't overclock. Intel warranties the processor for 3 years with it. My stock Q6600 cools my Pentium D 925 just fine and I overclock the pants off that same as I do My Pentium D Smithfield 805 D. I have near a 1 GHZ overclock on that everyday for more than year with little more than a stock fan.

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By the way does any one have a thought about this cooler before I spend the big $$?
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I think a Zaman 9600/9700 can be had for $59 on Newegg. I have no problem with heat and I rarely turn my system off since March. I get plenty of use out of it.
August 1, 2007 5:05:55 AM

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What. MY current use? What the hell do you know about MY current use? Absolutely nothing is what you know. I have been in private business for more than 20 years and own and have custom built dozens of computers. You don't know the first thing about MY use of computers? I am stepping into the world of digital X-ray, producing x-ray images with components that I'm sure you would not have any idea what system would work best and what system would not and for that matter what 'powered' anything properly as you put it.


My understanding comes from your screen capture. As you know it showed a usage under 11% . I'd be very interested to see the heat after a few minutes with 100% on all four cores. If your heat is still low then I'd follow your advice about the less expensive heat sink. I'd like to save the $70 nice to be able to aford a movie or two.


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Ever thought about case design and airflow? A good 120mm case fan installed in the right configuratioin can lower your temps significantly.


Yes, I replaced the case as well. It didn't stop the thermal events. I then moved it to the basement of my house (which I work out of) It still had thermal events... The 800 series was not intended for 100% use on both cores. (This was an expensive lession)

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It was fine when there was only one core running or had a slight spill over into the second core. However when it ran at 100% for 45 minutes it lead to problems.

PSU?


I'm a bit lost on this comment, are you saying that a different power supply would improve a CPU's heat problems?




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My stock Q6600 cools my Pentium D 925 just fine and I overclock the pants off that same as I do My Pentium D Smithfield 805 D. I have near a 1 GHZ overclock on that everyday for more than year with little more than a stock fan.


I want to make sure I understand you correctly. You are running both cores at 100% for five minutes or more? (Also the 925 only as a 95w consumption, it's a bit lower then the Q6600 or the 8xx)



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I think a Zaman 9600/9700 can be had for $59 on Newegg. I have no problem with heat and I rarely turn my system off since March. I get plenty of use out of it.


I had considered this, however the big improvement with the TEC is that is works very well even with a high ambient temperature.



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August 1, 2007 5:53:08 AM

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My understanding comes from your screen capture.


You are making too many assumptions and drawing too many erroneous conclusions from my screen capture. I have been building systems for a while now. When you install your processor next week I doubt very seriously you will get the kind of temps I am able to achieve. Even under 105w load, the Q6600 has no problems. The Q6700 draws 130w. If you read my posts, I said sure, "If you run the voltage up you are going to get heat." Doesn't the QX6800 run four cores without 'MELTING". You may be a nice guy, but you are obsessed with wattage a cpu draws and the idea a chip manfacturer like Intel doesn't know WHAT they are doing. What heat? The Q6600 runs exceptionally cool for the 105w it draws.

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As you know it showed a usage under 11%
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At 99% usage the temps would be well within the chip's stated specs.

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I'd be very interested to see the heat after a few minutes with 100% on all four cores.


I have 14 case fans in my system. Eleven 120 mm fans for starters. I'm sincerely curious, how many do you have in your 950? First intake, then exhaust for starters.

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If your heat is still low then I'd follow your advice about the less expensive heat sink.


The Zalman 9500/9700 are solid hsf's. I use 5 of them currently. q6600, e6600, 4800x2, amd64 3700, fx55. All are doing an admirable job keeping my systems cool every day.

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I'd like to save the $70 nice to be able to aford a movie or two.


Buy gold with it and go to the movies all month when your 73.

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Yes, I replaced the case as well. It didn't stop the thermal events.


Recently, My ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe started crashing and restarting periodiocally. Thermal event I though at first. I took off the overclock for starters, ran at BIOS default. Problem persisted. I added an exhaust pci blower and a 90 mm fan directly over the dual 16 x NB. I moved the soundcard to better vent the second 7800GT. Still getting periodic system crashes/restarts. I noticed the Enermax 525w 18/18 amp 12v psu was breathing fire. I swapped it out for a 680w 22/24 amp 12v. I have not had a single problem with the system since, it runs almost 24/7. All the cooling tidbits I did improved the temps all around on probably the most notorious chipset/board ever manufactured where excessive heat is involved.

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The 800 series was not intended for 100% use on both cores. (This was an expensive lession)
I'm a bit lost on this comment, are you saying that a different power supply would improve a CPU's heat problems?


A hot, underamped PSU will definately cause excessive heat on any system. Simple fact.

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I want to make sure I understand you correctly. You are running both cores at 100% for five minutes or more?


I have never had any problem whatsoever with heat on this machine. Are you familiar with Pinnacle Studio software. I copy VHS tape onto an internal HD, edit it and burn DVD's of the finished product. My system works so well I never thought to check the temps. I trust the 'guys' :sarcastic:  at Intel to insure the q6600 is capable of running at 100% for at least 5 minutes. Without failing if you are asking.


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I had considered this but the big improvement with the TEC is that is works very well even with a high ambient temperature.


This conversation caused me to search around the net around the forums and Intel, and I really don't see where the average q6600 owner is experiencing any 'defect' with their processors. I do read 3.2 ghz is about as far as the processor will clock. You think heat is the only issue causing this? Not on your life. It's not a fair comparison, but I have two 2.4 ghz. AMD processors running currently. A 4800 X2 (in the A8n32SLI I mentioned) and an AMD64 2.4 Newcastle. Neither will clock near 3.0 GHZ. The closest I have to an AMD processor running at 3 ghz. is an FX55 at 2.8+ (don't wan't to shortchange it, it's a great processor). My point is this. When you get your q6600 and drop it in and fire it up, you will be so happy overclocking it might not occur to you for days. Well an hour anyway.
August 1, 2007 7:16:35 AM

i installed a half-decent cooler and got 62C full loading on all 4 cores

the case already had a 120mm exhaust fan and 80mm front fan

all I did was add an extra 80mm side panel exhaust(right on top of the CPU FAN) and a makeshift 100mm fan in the 5 1/4 slots blowing at the PSU

now my temps are 57C Full loading and 46C Idle

oh the case temps are around 42C with Room temp around 32C

everyone blurting cpu temps must blurt the room / case temp also coz if u live in an igloo your cpu temp maybe below zero :p 

when I get home and turn on airconditioning Full load around 50C

e6300 was a cool cpu, e6600 is not a cool cpu,, q6600 is 2x e6600?
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August 1, 2007 7:34:38 AM

If your cooler is a snap on like the stock Intel cooler, they are notorious for not seating properly. I use several and I have the best luck installing them by carefully lining up the feet to the MB holes then securing the post horizontally. Left front, then right rear, then right front, then left rear post for example. They can be tricky getting them fully seated. The temps will drop dramatically with a properly seated HSF as opposed to an incorrectly seated version. Artic Silver 5 works well for me.
August 1, 2007 7:44:11 AM

badge said:
If your cooler is a snap on like the stock Intel cooler, they are notorious for not seating properly. I use several and I have the best luck installing them by carefully lining up the feet to the MB holes then securing the post horizontally. Left front, then right rear, then right front, then left rear post for example. They can be tricky getting them fully seated. The temps will drop dramatically with a properly seated HSF as opposed to an incorrectly seated version. Artic Silver 5 works well for me.


Thats why I like the TT 120 cause you can adjust the pressure at four different points and how tight also.
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August 1, 2007 7:51:35 AM

I see the TT120 has a 120 mm Fan. Hello! That get's my attention. I like watching the Zaman installation video.

I really have FIVE of these running currently. If you have never seen it, click on the 'Installation Movie' (hint, hint new guys).

http://www.zalman.co.kr/usa/product/view.asp?idx=165&co...
August 1, 2007 8:18:12 AM

1736103,24,79494 said:
I see the TT120 has a 120 mm Fan. Hello! That get's my attention. I like watching the Zaman installation video.

I really have FIVE of these running currently. If you have never seen it, click on the 'Installation Movie' (hint, hint new guys).

http://www.zalman.co.kr/usa/product/view.asp?idx=165&co...[/quo temsg]

Thats just awesome you don't even need the manual, to cool! What the heck happened the the quote??
August 1, 2007 8:53:32 AM

Anyone running Speedfan add 15c to your temps...It's way off..the only ones that are accurate are Coretemp and Intel TAT which doesn't work on quad cores.
August 1, 2007 9:34:27 AM

airblazer said:
Anyone running Speedfan add 15c to your temps...It's way off..the only ones that are accurate are Coretemp and Intel TAT which doesn't work on quad cores.


Your completely mix up. There are three DTS (digital thermal senser) one in each core, and one inbetween both cores on the processer die. The one inbetween the cores in known as IHS (integrated heat spreader) and is always 15C cooler than the core temps. The core temps are always 15C hotter than the one inbetween the cores. So we have CPU temp and core temp. Right now my CPU temp is 26C & core temp is 35C x 2. Hope this clears things up.
August 1, 2007 11:29:28 AM

aahh..that makes sense..but surely the core temp is more important..a lot of ppl mistake the cpu temp for the coretemp and think their cpu is running nice and cool at say 30c when in actualy fact it's 45c
August 1, 2007 11:48:33 AM

airblazer said:
aahh..that makes sense..but surely the core temp is more important..a lot of ppl mistake the cpu temp for the coretemp and think their cpu is running nice and cool at say 30c when in actualy fact it's 45c


Core temps is way more accurate, I don't even look at CPU temps anymore as they have been known to give false readings.
August 1, 2007 2:44:00 PM

killerb255 said:
Well...I have a B3 stepping Q6600 running on an MSI P6N SLI-FI motherboard with stock cooling, stock settings (no overclocking). According to the BIOS hardware monitor, my temps are around 46C idle, whereas my old E6600 (again, stock everything) was around 42C idle...


...OTOH, my "system" temp (probably motherboard) was around 55C idle...

That could be one (or both) of two things, I would think:

1) The P6N SLI-FI's passive cooling heat sink
2) The 8800GTS adding its own temp to the mix
August 1, 2007 2:50:39 PM

Lap the heatsink and cpu.
I did it to my Q6700 and temps dropped about 9c idle.
Was running at about 46c and now running at 37c idle..
August 1, 2007 4:04:46 PM

badge said:
Some day I hope to take x-rays and have them show up directly onto my hard drive like this. Digital x-ray. No film needed. Just a Penryn dual quad CPU!

http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dskull1mm1.gi...


f rom bazza: "all I did was add an extra 80mm side panel exhaust(right on top of the CPU FAN) and a makeshift 100mm fan in the 5 1/4 slots blowing at the PSU"

The side panel CAG opening is designed to vent air down onto the processor/HSF. If you will reverse the side panel fan so that it is directing air down onto the processor/HSF, instead of exhausting, you might see a significant affect in lowering your temps. Just a thought...if I am interpreting correctly your message.
August 1, 2007 11:45:56 PM

Running EITHER the B3 or GO stepping under stock cooling from intel and stock setings will be just fine. GO better off, but it'll all still be fine.

My case atm until I upgrade is pretty crap so im still getting 2 cheap 120mm fans to put on it, just to help.
August 2, 2007 4:59:02 AM

airblazer said:
Lap the heatsink and cpu.
I did it to my Q6700 and temps dropped about 9c idle.
Was running at about 46c and now running at 37c idle..


Also because you have exposed the copper instead of the nickle plating. I lapped both mine to and even made a bigger difference in load temps to.
August 6, 2007 1:04:49 PM

I'm hoping to help end this discussion... the Q6600 DOES indeed run hot. I ordered a Koolance EXOS-2 water-cooling kit with this processor and it still runs around 40C@ 3GHz. Overclocked some more with bigger VCORE voltage increase, and she gets up there! I never actually checked it out with stock Intel fan, but it seems to me that 40C H2O-Cooled in a room that's 75F is a little warm. @ 3.6-3.65GHz with 1.525v, I've exited a game and checked my ASUS probe to see it bouncing off the 55-60C mark.

Does anyone know of any temperature logging programs? ASUS Probe will give me real-time results, but won't actually log. Also, what is the safe temp for this processor? Thanks.
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August 6, 2007 1:26:36 PM

For all the wasted time, hassle and money you will spend with that problematic watercooled system of yours, you could have simply bought a QX6850 and ran it stock in a micro case with the stock heatsink/fan. If you had read this thread before posting you would know clocking your cpu to 3 ghz is causing all your heat, not the inherent heat of the processor. The processor runs exceptionally cool if you not a clod overvolting your entire system and complaining how hot it runs. Try using your computer for something useful, like running a business or for school and enjoy it. Read the threads before posting in the future. 3.65 ghz? Heat is aproblem? Duh.
August 6, 2007 1:36:14 PM

I know that voltage and FSB increases are causing the heat, but the processor stock will put out some heat for people too; there are peopel running Zalman and Thermaltake fans and still getting temps in the 50C range with no overclock.

Giving you the benefeit of the doubt, and not assuming your ignorant enough to make the statement you did about my water-cooling system, I'd guess you have viable information against it. You must infact know that the next time I build a computer I may just have to get a different waterblock... So I'm trying to figure why it was a waste of money? Especially seeing that I build a new computer every 6-12months. I won't have this processor long enough for it to burn up. Now, if you have something agaist Koolance (which some people do), DELETED
http://www.legitreviews.com/article.php?aid=2 05
http://www.hardocp.co m/article.html?art=NzYy
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=154
August 6, 2007 1:38:34 PM

wont accept changes to the 2nd URL, but I'm sure if you Google it, you will see exactly what I'm talking about
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August 6, 2007 1:40:58 PM

localcpuguy said:
I know that voltage and FSB increases are causing the heat, but the processor stock will put out some heat for people too; there are peopel running Zalman and Thermaltake fans and still getting temps in the 50C range with no overclock.

Giving you the benefeit of the doubt, and not assuming your ignorant enough to make the statement you did about my water-cooling system, I'd guess you have viable information against it. You must infact know that the next time I build a computer I may just have to get a different waterblock... So I'm trying to figure why it was a waste of money? Especially seeing that I build a new computer every 6-12months. I won't have this processor long enough for it to burn up. Now, if you have something agaist Koolance (which some people do), I suggest you do some homework before making such a stupid comment. I'll include just a couple of reviews for you...

http://www.legitreviews.com/article.php?aid=205
http://www.hardocp.co m/article.html?art=NzYy
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=154




3.65 ghz? I have not seen any printed reports of a Q6600 running beyond 3.2 to 3.4 stable. DELETED

Q6600 at 3.65 ghz., heat IS an issue with the q6600.
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August 6, 2007 1:43:07 PM

BTW, you won't last long on this forum referring to members as ignorant and stupid. I don't appreciate it.
August 6, 2007 1:48:46 PM

I didn't refer to you as stupid, I said ignorant- Meaning: Not knowing. I provided information for you to support my water-cooling since you bashed it.
August 7, 2007 4:05:27 AM

localcpuguy said:
I'm hoping to help end this discussion...


It does seems that you are trying to hijack this thread by your statement above. Its not up to you to end anything! From reading your post it seems that you haven't even read the OP post.
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August 7, 2007 5:36:11 AM

localcpuguy said:
I didn't refer to you as stupid, I said ignorant- Meaning: Not knowing. I provided information for you to support my water-cooling since you bashed it.


Quote:
it seems to me that 40C H2O-Cooled in a room that's 75F is a little warm. @ 3.6-3.65GHz with 1.525v, I've exited a game and checked my ASUS probe to see it bouncing off the 55-60C mark.


1.100V-1.372V is mfg. specs.

http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL9UM

You spent how much for your Q6600 and watercooling system? And you have a heat problem and will spend more trying to compensate for the shortcomings of the system you built. I said, you could have bought a QX6850 and run at 3.0 ghz with the stock fan in a micro case for less than what you will spend on your current build not to mention all the time and trouble you have invested presently.

There is no published information confirming a Q6600 has been tested running stable at 3.65 ghz as you claim on your first post on the Forumz. 3.4 GHZ is rumored and 3.2 is tops. Bashing your water cooling? Thanks for defining ignorant.
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August 7, 2007 9:02:23 AM

localcpuguy said:
I'm hoping to help end this discussion... the Q6600 DOES indeed run hot. I ordered a Koolance EXOS-2 water-cooling kit with this processor and it still runs around 40C@ 3GHz. Overclocked some more with bigger VCORE voltage increase, and she gets up there! I never actually checked it out with stock Intel fan, but it seems to me that 40C H2O-Cooled in a room that's 75F is a little warm. @ 3.6-3.65GHz with 1.525v, I've exited a game and checked my ASUS probe to see it bouncing off the 55-60C mark.

Does anyone know of any temperature logging programs? ASUS Probe will give me real-time results, but won't actually log. Also, what is the safe temp for this processor? Thanks.


So is safe to assume that you are ignorant of Rivatuner then? :heink: 
August 8, 2007 5:15:54 AM

localcpuguy said:
Does anyone know of any temperature logging programs? ASUS Probe will give me real-time results, but won't actually log. Also, what is the safe temp for this processor? Thanks.


You must be new to computers if you don't know of Core Temp, Speed Fan, TAT and Everest.
August 12, 2007 11:23:48 PM

Since when is 40 degrees hot?
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August 13, 2007 12:01:55 AM

*Sigh*

Canuck1 said:
How am I misinformed? Many people are talking about the heat and the problems overclocking (although, that is not what I wanted it for). It's 105 watts v.s. 65 watts for the G0 stepping E6x50 chips. Unless, you can get the G0 stepping Q6600, it runs hot (and it's only a reduction of 10 watts so you still need good air cooling and thus, a good heatsink). If that is not true, then a lot of people are saying false things.

2 cores vs 4 cores, duh, of course it uses more power. It still runs cool relative to the E6x50, imagine if it had 2 extra cores like the Q6600.

localcpuguy said:
I'm hoping to help end this discussion... the Q6600 DOES indeed run hot. I ordered a Koolance EXOS-2 water-cooling kit with this processor and it still runs around 40C@ 3GHz. Overclocked some more with bigger VCORE voltage increase, and she gets up there! I never actually checked it out with stock Intel fan, but it seems to me that 40C H2O-Cooled in a room that's 75F is a little warm. @ 3.6-3.65GHz with 1.525v, I've exited a game and checked my ASUS probe to see it bouncing off the 55-60C mark.

No way! It gets hot with a bigger vcore. :heink:  And you blame the chip for you pumping more power through it? :pfff: 

EDIT: Oh yea, OP, your temps are high.
August 13, 2007 12:48:15 AM

I just built my system over a week ago and checked the core temps today. I was not pleased.

At STOCK VALUES my system temps are as follows:

Core 0: 74C
Core 1: 70C
Core 2: 55C
Core 3: 59C

This are idle temps, my friends, and they are WAY too high. I reseated the fan/heatsink, which is the standard one. I am desperate for help on this issue.

Note: On occasion, my computer does not boot correctly and upon reset it says there is a CMOS checksum error. I'm relatively sure these two problems are related, but don't know what that problem is.

I think this is a power supply issue, but if it could be something else, I would appreciate any suggestions before I return and buy another PSU.

My system setup as follows:

Core 2 Duo Quad Q6600
ASUS P5N32-E SLI Plus Motherboard
OCZ (2 x 1G) DDR2 PC-800 Platinum Memory
EVGA GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB Video
Coolermaster Centurion 5 Case
Sparkle B204 400W PSU

Thanks
-Ray
August 13, 2007 12:56:30 AM

Are your voltages set correctly? Just a thought. I have a QX6700 and my temps are running close to that, likely because my fan is loose :/ 
August 13, 2007 1:05:07 AM

I am using the BIOS defaults, so the voltages should be fine. Even if I do lower the CPU VCore Voltage, the temps are still too high.
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